Luigi 1.1.0 Patch Notes and Changes

[Space Stranger]

Since there wasn't a thread made for this yet, this serves as a compilation of all Luigi-specific buffs and nerfs in the latest balance patch.

I'll try to add my own input but feel free to contribute.

Patch Notes (both buffs and nerfs):

• Down tilt endlag reduced. Even though it seems more noticable now, Down tilt always had the ability to trip.
• Forward air damage reduced from 9% to 8% and has less hitsun.
• Ending lag of fireball increased from 41 to 44. Resets an opponent once now.
• Fire Jump Punch now has increased knockback which causes it to kill 10% earlier than previous patches.

Thanks to all who contributed! Your efforts are truly appreciated.

 

[champ21bell]

seems to have no damage changes

 

[Space Stranger]

I noticed the same. The tripping effect seems to be the only "major" detail at the moment.

 

[CF711]

Fair went from 9% to 8%

 

[Space Stranger]

Down Smash went from 17% to 16%.
Disproven, ignore.

 

[CF711]

Dsmash is unchanged 14% in both patches

 

[FEFIZ]

Yeap. Fair changed the damage so I think the knockback too. 9% to 8%. We lost 1% but we can combo a little more. It's a small nerf for me, like in the last patch we lost 1% in neutral B ending hit.

 

[Space Stranger]

Well damn, I tried both uncharged and fully charged and you're right.

 

[FEFIZ]

Since there wasn't a thread made for this yet, this serves as a compilation of all Luigi-specific buffs and nerfs in the latest balance patch.

I'll try to add my own input but feel free to contribute.

Update: Luigi's down tilt has the ability to trip

"Luigi's down tilt has the ability to trip" Can you explain better this? Thanks.

 

[Space Stranger]

"Luigi's down tilt has the ability to trip" Can you explain better this? Thanks.

Sorry, I was in a bit of a rush when I typed that.

[Tested with Mario on Omega Battlefield]
Normally, DTilt just makes the opponent go upward depending on the damage. However, Luigi's DTilt has the potential to trip the opponent, depending on where they are hit. I'll try to find a link from another source.

 

[CF711]

"Luigi's down tilt has the ability to trip" Can you explain better this? Thanks.

https://twitter.com/Anti_SSB/status/626937831575932928

 

[Yonder]

http://opensa.dantarion.com/s4/raw/diff-128-144/luigi.html

So according to this, I think Luigi received MASSIVE changes, the most out of everyone to be exact. Whether they are nerfs or buffs I do not know I can't read it. I'm scared though, brace yourselves. I know for sure fair got a 1% reduction on damage.

EDIT: It keeps dying so here it is...brace yourselves.

050 - Attack11 - AF37E1FA
game
---

+++

@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@

AsynchronousTimer(2.0f)
- Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x0,Part=0x0,Bone=0x10,Damage=3.0f,Angle=0x5a,KBG=0x64,FKB=0x14,BKB=0x0,Size=4.5f,X=2.5f,Y=0.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x0,Ground/Air=0x1,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x4)
- Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x1,Part=0x0,Bone=0xf,Damage=3.0f,Angle=0x41,KBG=0x64,FKB=0x14,BKB=0x0,Size=3.0f,X=1.20000004768f,Y=0.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x0,Ground/Air=0x1,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x4)
- Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x2,Part=0x0,Bone=0x15,Damage=3.0f,Angle=0x32,KBG=0x64,FKB=0x14,BKB=0x0,Size=3.5f,X=0.0f,Y=0.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x0,Ground/Air=0x1,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x4)
+ Hitbox-14FCC7E4(Id=0x0,Bone?=0x0,unk?=0x10,Damage=3.0f,Angle=0x5a,BKB=0x64,WKB?=0x14,KBG=0x0,Size=4.5f,X=2.5f,Y=0.0f,0.0f,0x0,0x0,1.0f,1.0f,0x1,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x1,0x3,0x1,0x4,0x3f,0x0,0xf,0x0,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x3,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0)
+ Hitbox-14FCC7E4(Id=0x1,Bone?=0x0,unk?=0xf,Damage=3.0f,Angle=0x41,BKB=0x64,WKB?=0x14,KBG=0x0,Size=3.0f,X=1.20000004768f,Y=0.0f,0.0f,0x0,0x0,1.0f,1.0f,0x1,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x1,0x3,0x1,0x4,0x3f,0x0,0xf,0x0,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x3,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0)
+ Hitbox-14FCC7E4(Id=0x2,Bone?=0x0,unk?=0x15,Damage=3.0f,Angle=0x32,BKB=0x64,WKB?=0x14,KBG=0x0,Size=3.5f,X=0.0f,Y=0.0f,0.0f,0x0,0x0,1.0f,1.0f,0x1,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x1,0x3,0x1,0x4,0x3f,0x0,0xf,0x0,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x3,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(4.0f)
RemoveAllHitboxes()
AsynchronousTimer(6.0f)



051 - Attack12 - 363EB040
game
---

+++

@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@

AsynchronousTimer(3.0f)
- Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x0,Part=0x0,Bone=0x16,Damage=2.0f,Angle=0x46,KBG=0x64,FKB=0xf,BKB=0x0,Size=4.5f,X=2.5f,Y=0.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x0,Ground/Air=0x1,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x4)
- Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x1,Part=0x0,Bone=0x15,Damage=2.0f,Angle=0x3c,KBG=0x64,FKB=0x14,BKB=0x0,Size=3.0f,X=1.20000004768f,Y=0.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x0,Ground/Air=0x1,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x4)
- Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x2,Part=0x0,Bone=0xf,Damage=2.0f,Angle=0x3c,KBG=0x64,FKB=0x14,BKB=0x0,Size=3.5f,X=0.0f,Y=0.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x0,Ground/Air=0x1,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x4)
+ Hitbox-14FCC7E4(Id=0x0,Bone?=0x0,unk?=0x16,Damage=2.0f,Angle=0x46,BKB=0x64,WKB?=0xf,KBG=0x0,Size=4.5f,X=2.5f,Y=0.0f,0.0f,0x0,0x0,1.0f,1.0f,0x1,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x1,0x3,0x1,0x4,0x3f,0x0,0xf,0x0,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x3,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0)
+ Hitbox-14FCC7E4(Id=0x1,Bone?=0x0,unk?=0x15,Damage=2.0f,Angle=0x3c,BKB=0x64,WKB?=0x14,KBG=0x0,Size=3.0f,X=1.20000004768f,Y=0.0f,0.0f,0x0,0x0,1.0f,1.0f,0x1,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x1,0x3,0x1,0x4,0x3f,0x0,0xf,0x0,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x3,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0)
+ Hitbox-14FCC7E4(Id=0x2,Bone?=0x0,unk?=0xf,Damage=2.0f,Angle=0x3c,BKB=0x64,WKB?=0x14,KBG=0x0,Size=3.5f,X=0.0f,Y=0.0f,0.0f,0x0,0x0,1.0f,1.0f,0x1,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x1,0x3,0x1,0x4,0x3f,0x0,0xf,0x0,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x3,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0)
AsynchronousTimer(5.0f)
RemoveAllHitboxes()
AsynchronousTimer(7.0f)



057 - AttackS3Hi - D3541A9A
game
---

+++

@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@

AsynchronousTimer(5.0f)
- Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x0,Part=0x0,Bone=0x9,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,KBG=0x64,FKB=0x0,BKB=0x2,Size=4.80000019073f,X=3.59999990463f,Y=0.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x1,Ground/Air=0x2,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x6)
- Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x1,Part=0x0,Bone=0x8,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,KBG=0x64,FKB=0x0,BKB=0x2,Size=4.0f,X=1.20000004768f,Y=0.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x1,Ground/Air=0x2,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x6)
- Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x2,Part=0x0,Bone=0x3,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,KBG=0x64,FKB=0x0,BKB=0x2,Size=3.40000009537f,X=1.10000002384f,Y=-2.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x1,Ground/Air=0x2,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x6)
+ Hitbox-14FCC7E4(Id=0x0,Bone?=0x0,unk?=0x9,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,BKB=0x64,WKB?=0x0,KBG=0x2,Size=4.80000019073f,X=3.59999990463f,Y=0.0f,0.0f,0x0,0x0,1.0f,1.0f,0x1,0x1,0x0,0x1,0x2,0x3,0x1,0x6,0x3f,0x0,0xf,0x0,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x3,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0)
+ Hitbox-14FCC7E4(Id=0x1,Bone?=0x0,unk?=0x8,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,BKB=0x64,WKB?=0x0,KBG=0x2,Size=4.0f,X=1.20000004768f,Y=0.0f,0.0f,0x0,0x0,1.0f,1.0f,0x1,0x1,0x0,0x1,0x2,0x3,0x1,0x6,0x3f,0x0,0xf,0x0,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x3,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0)
+ Hitbox-14FCC7E4(Id=0x2,Bone?=0x0,unk?=0x3,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,BKB=0x64,WKB?=0x0,KBG=0x2,Size=3.40000009537f,X=1.10000002384f,Y=-2.0f,0.0f,0x0,0x0,1.0f,1.0f,0x1,0x1,0x0,0x1,0x2,0x3,0x1,0x6,0x3f,0x0,0xf,0x0,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x3,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0)
SynchronousTimer(3.0f)
RemoveAllHitboxes()
End()



058 - - 8376AD51
game
---

+++

@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@

AsynchronousTimer(5.0f)
- Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x0,Part=0x0,Bone=0x9,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,KBG=0x64,FKB=0x0,BKB=0x2,Size=4.80000019073f,X=3.59999990463f,Y=0.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x1,Ground/Air=0x2,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x6)
- Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x1,Part=0x0,Bone=0x8,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,KBG=0x64,FKB=0x0,BKB=0x2,Size=4.0f,X=1.20000004768f,Y=0.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x1,Ground/Air=0x2,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x6)
- Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x2,Part=0x0,Bone=0x3,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,KBG=0x64,FKB=0x0,BKB=0x2,Size=3.40000009537f,X=1.10000002384f,Y=-2.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x1,Ground/Air=0x2,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x6)
+ Hitbox-14FCC7E4(Id=0x0,Bone?=0x0,unk?=0x9,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,BKB=0x64,WKB?=0x0,KBG=0x2,Size=4.80000019073f,X=3.59999990463f,Y=0.0f,0.0f,0x0,0x0,1.0f,1.0f,0x1,0x1,0x0,0x1,0x2,0x3,0x1,0x6,0x3f,0x0,0xf,0x0,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x3,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0)
+ Hitbox-14FCC7E4(Id=0x1,Bone?=0x0,unk?=0x8,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,BKB=0x64,WKB?=0x0,KBG=0x2,Size=4.0f,X=1.20000004768f,Y=0.0f,0.0f,0x0,0x0,1.0f,1.0f,0x1,0x1,0x0,0x1,0x2,0x3,0x1,0x6,0x3f,0x0,0xf,0x0,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x3,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0)
+ Hitbox-14FCC7E4(Id=0x2,Bone?=0x0,unk?=0x3,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,BKB=0x64,WKB?=0x0,KBG=0x2,Size=3.40000009537f,X=1.10000002384f,Y=-2.0f,0.0f,0x0,0x0,1.0f,1.0f,0x1,0x1,0x0,0x1,0x2,0x3,0x1,0x6,0x3f,0x0,0xf,0x0,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x3,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0)
SynchronousTimer(3.0f)
RemoveAllHitboxes()
End()



05B - AttackS3Lw - 4D37E2FD
game
---

+++

@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@

AsynchronousTimer(5.0f)
- Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x0,Part=0x0,Bone=0x9,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,KBG=0x64,FKB=0x0,BKB=0x2,Size=4.80000019073f,X=3.59999990463f,Y=0.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x1,Ground/Air=0x2,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x6)
- Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x1,Part=0x0,Bone=0x8,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,KBG=0x64,FKB=0x0,BKB=0x2,Size=4.0f,X=1.20000004768f,Y=0.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x1,Ground/Air=0x2,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x6)
- Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x2,Part=0x0,Bone=0x3,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,KBG=0x64,FKB=0x0,BKB=0x2,Size=3.40000009537f,X=1.10000002384f,Y=-2.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x1,Ground/Air=0x2,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x6)
+ Hitbox-14FCC7E4(Id=0x0,Bone?=0x0,unk?=0x9,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,BKB=0x64,WKB?=0x0,KBG=0x2,Size=4.80000019073f,X=3.59999990463f,Y=0.0f,0.0f,0x0,0x0,1.0f,1.0f,0x1,0x1,0x0,0x1,0x2,0x3,0x1,0x6,0x3f,0x0,0xf,0x0,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x3,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0)
+ Hitbox-14FCC7E4(Id=0x1,Bone?=0x0,unk?=0x8,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,BKB=0x64,WKB?=0x0,KBG=0x2,Size=4.0f,X=1.20000004768f,Y=0.0f,0.0f,0x0,0x0,1.0f,1.0f,0x1,0x1,0x0,0x1,0x2,0x3,0x1,0x6,0x3f,0x0,0xf,0x0,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x3,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0)
+ Hitbox-14FCC7E4(Id=0x2,Bone?=0x0,unk?=0x3,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,BKB=0x64,WKB?=0x0,KBG=0x2,Size=3.40000009537f,X=1.10000002384f,Y=-2.0f,0.0f,0x0,0x0,1.0f,1.0f,0x1,0x1,0x0,0x1,0x2,0x3,0x1,0x6,0x3f,0x0,0xf,0x0,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x3,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0)
SynchronousTimer(3.0f)
RemoveAllHitboxes()
End()



05D - AttackLw3 - F252F718
game
---

+++

@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@

AsynchronousTimer(5.0f)
- Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x0,Part=0x0,Bone=0x9,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x4a,KBG=0x36,FKB=0x0,BKB=0x26,Size=4.80000019073f,X=3.0f,Y=0.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x3eb33333,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x1,Ground/Air=0x2,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x6)
- Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x1,Part=0x0,Bone=0x8,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x4a,KBG=0x36,FKB=0x0,BKB=0x26,Size=3.79999995232f,X=1.60000002384f,Y=0.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x3eb33333,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x1,Ground/Air=0x2,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x6)
+ Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x0,Part=0x0,Bone=0x9,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,KBG=0x41,FKB=0x0,BKB=0x14,Size=4.80000019073f,X=3.0f,Y=0.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x3e800000,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x1,Ground/Air=0x2,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x6)
+ Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x1,Part=0x0,Bone=0x8,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,KBG=0x41,FKB=0x0,BKB=0x14,Size=3.79999995232f,X=2.0f,Y=0.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x3e800000,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x1,Ground/Air=0x2,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x6)
SynchronousTimer(4.0f)
RemoveAllHitboxes()
End()



069 - AttackAirF - 68FDC9A2
game
---

+++

@@ -1,8 +1,8 @@

AsynchronousTimer(2.0f)
?SetBit(0x2100000d)
AsynchronousTimer(7.0f)
- Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x0,Part=0x0,Bone=0x10,Damage=9.0f,Angle=0x169,KBG=0x50,FKB=0x0,BKB=0x1e,Size=5.59999990463f,X=3.40000009537f,Y=0.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x1,Ground/Air=0x1,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x4)
- Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x1,Part=0x0,Bone=0xf,Damage=9.0f,Angle=0x169,KBG=0x50,FKB=0x0,BKB=0x1e,Size=3.83999991417f,X=0.0f,Y=0.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x1,Ground/Air=0x1,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x4)
+ Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x0,Part=0x0,Bone=0x10,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,KBG=0x50,FKB=0x0,BKB=0x1e,Size=5.59999990463f,X=3.40000009537f,Y=0.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x1,Ground/Air=0x1,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x4)
+ Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x1,Part=0x0,Bone=0xf,Damage=8.0f,Angle=0x169,KBG=0x50,FKB=0x0,BKB=0x1e,Size=3.83999991417f,X=0.0f,Y=0.0f,Z=0.0f,Effect=0x0,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x1,Ground/Air=0x1,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x4)
SynchronousTimer(4.0f)
RemoveAllHitboxes()
AsynchronousTimer(21.0f)



245 - SpecialHi - 1BA6EBD5
game
---

+++

@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@

unk-7172A764(0x3fa00000)
AsynchronousTimer(6.0f)
unk-7172A764(0x3f800000)
- Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x0,Part=0x0,Bone=0x0,Damage=25.0f,Angle=0x58,KBG=0x4d,FKB=0x0,BKB=0x28,Size=1.70000004768f,X=0.0f,Y=6.0f,Z=7.0f,Effect=0x5,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x2,Ground/Air=0x5,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x4)
+ Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x0,Part=0x0,Bone=0x0,Damage=25.0f,Angle=0x58,KBG=0x4d,FKB=0x0,BKB=0x32,Size=2.20000004768f,X=0.0f,Y=6.0f,Z=7.0f,Effect=0x5,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x2,Ground/Air=0x5,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x4)
?SetBit(0x21000012)
unk-9126EBA2(0x1a201091)
End()



246 - - 17DB0241
game
---

+++

@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@

unk-7172A764(0x3f800000)
AsynchronousTimer(6.0f)
unk-7172A764(0x40400000)
- Hitbox-14FCC7E4(Id=0x0,Bone?=0x0,unk?=0x0,Damage=18.0f,Angle=0x46,BKB=0x4d,WKB?=0x0,KBG=0x28,Size=3.79999995232f,X=0.0f,Y=6.0f,6.40000009537f,0x5,0x0,1.20000004768f,1.0f,0x1,0x1,0x0,0x2,0x8,0x3,0x1,0x4,0x3f,0x0,0xf,0x0,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x3,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0)
+ Hitbox-14FCC7E4(Id=0x0,Bone?=0x0,unk?=0x0,Damage=18.0f,Angle=0x46,BKB=0x4d,WKB?=0x0,KBG=0x32,Size=3.79999995232f,X=0.0f,Y=6.0f,6.40000009537f,0x5,0x0,1.20000004768f,1.0f,0x1,0x1,0x0,0x2,0x8,0x3,0x1,0x4,0x3f,0x0,0xf,0x0,0x1,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x3,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0)
?SetBit(0x21000012)
unk-9126EBA2(0x93db393fL)
End()



249 - SpecialAirHi - 3513E434
game
---

+++

@@ -1,7 +1,5 @@

- unk-7172A764(0x3fa00000)
AsynchronousTimer(6.0f)
- unk-7172A764(0x3f800000)
- Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x0,Part=0x0,Bone=0x0,Damage=20.0f,Angle=0x5a,KBG=0x42,FKB=0x0,BKB=0x28,Size=2.20000004768f,X=0.0f,Y=6.0f,Z=5.5f,Effect=0x5,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x2,Ground/Air=0x8,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x4)
+ Hitbox-B738EABD(ID=0x0,Part=0x0,Bone=0x0,Damage=20.0f,Angle=0x5a,KBG=0x42,FKB=0x0,BKB=0x28,Size=2.70000004768f,X=0.0f,Y=6.0f,Z=5.5f,Effect=0x5,Trip=0x0,Hitlag=1.0f,SDI=1.0f,Clang=0x1,?=0x1,SFXLevel=0x0,SFXType=0x2,Ground/Air=0x8,Direct/Indirect=0x3,0x1,0x4)
unk-9126EBA2(0x1a201091)
End()

 

[MrTeddyBear]

D-tilt has less endlag and Fireballs have a little more endlag.

 

[Space Stranger]

@ Y Yonder , I'd recommend spoilering that just so it makes scrolling easier on the eyes. But I can't wait until someone can actually identify what's being changed according to that.

 

[Yonder]

D-tilt has less endlag and Fireballs have a little more endlag.

I've noticed these now...fireball end lag REALLY sucks now...D tilt is faster though, woohoo -.-

 

[Pyr]

D-tilt has less endlag and Fireballs have a little more endlag.

Fireball was 40 frames total IIRC. Maybe 42. Any idea what it is now? Also, fireball came out frame 17. At work, so I can't test atm.

Also, any down-b changes?

Another edit: Luigi's D-Tilt always could trip. It was a property as far back as 1.0.4.

 

[Luig]

Luigi fireball endlag definitely increased, you can only reset an opponent once now.

EDIT: it trips more often due to the it sends at being kuch lower, almost a semi spike.

 

[Yonder]

quote="HiNiTe, post: 19792325, member: 272064"]Luigi changes http://opensa.dantarion.com/s4/raw/diff-128-144/luigi.html

Attack11 (Jab 1)
/ Hitboxes renamed. Otherwise, no significant gameplay changes.

Attack12 (Jab 2)
/ Hitboxes renamed. Otherwise, no significant gameplay changes.

AttackS3Lw (Forward Smash, angle down)
/ Hitboxes renamed. Otherwise, no significant gameplay changes.

AttackLw3 (Foward tilt, angle down)
/ Hitboxes renamed. Otherwise, no significant gameplay changes.

AttackAirF (Foward air)
- Damage reduced, 9.0% → 8.0%

SpecialHi (Grounded Up Special: Super Jump Punch)
+ Base knockback increased, 28 → 32

Subaction 17DB0241 (Duplicate entry of SpecialHi)
+ Base knockback increased, 28 → 32

SpecialAirHi (Aerial Up Special: Super Jump Punch)
/ Deleted unknown action entries unk-7172A764(0x3fa00000)

IN SUMMARY
- Fair nerfed
- Grounded Up-Special buffed[/quote]

Not including projectiles from the mine, since we've all noticed endlag for fireballs...he gained more power on Up B. Interesting.

 

[Luig]

Ok, I can take that after seeing the sonic changes....

 

[Pyr]

quote="HiNiTe, post: 19792325, member: 272064"]Luigi changes http://opensa.dantarion.com/s4/raw/diff-128-144/luigi.html

Attack11 (Jab 1)
/ Hitboxes renamed. Otherwise, no significant gameplay changes.

Attack12 (Jab 2)
/ Hitboxes renamed. Otherwise, no significant gameplay changes.

AttackS3Lw (Forward Smash, angle down)
/ Hitboxes renamed. Otherwise, no significant gameplay changes.

AttackLw3 (Foward tilt, angle down)
/ Hitboxes renamed. Otherwise, no significant gameplay changes.

AttackAirF (Foward air)
- Damage reduced, 9.0% → 8.0%

SpecialHi (Grounded Up Special: Super Jump Punch)
+ Base knockback increased, 28 → 32

Subaction 17DB0241 (Duplicate entry of SpecialHi)
+ Base knockback increased, 28 → 32

SpecialAirHi (Aerial Up Special: Super Jump Punch)
/ Deleted unknown action entries unk-7172A764(0x3fa00000)

IN SUMMARY
- Fair nerfed
- Grounded Up-Special buffed

Not including projectiles from the mine, since we've all noticed endlag for fireballs...he gained more power on Up B. Interesting.[/quote]
If it's just fair, then that isn't too horrible. RAR Bair will just be used more for air-footsies, and the 6, or more, used in combos will be made up with an extra hit where one wasn't possible before. Any non-fireball frame data changes? If someone hasn't gotten it in 5 hours, I'll manually get it for us, including exact numbers for neutral B.

 

[MrTeddyBear]

quote="HiNiTe, post: 19792325, member: 272064"]Luigi changes http://opensa.dantarion.com/s4/raw/diff-128-144/luigi.html

Attack11 (Jab 1)
/ Hitboxes renamed. Otherwise, no significant gameplay changes.

Attack12 (Jab 2)
/ Hitboxes renamed. Otherwise, no significant gameplay changes.

AttackS3Lw (Forward Smash, angle down)
/ Hitboxes renamed. Otherwise, no significant gameplay changes.

AttackLw3 (Foward tilt, angle down)
/ Hitboxes renamed. Otherwise, no significant gameplay changes.

AttackAirF (Foward air)
- Damage reduced, 9.0% → 8.0%

SpecialHi (Grounded Up Special: Super Jump Punch)
+ Base knockback increased, 28 → 32

Subaction 17DB0241 (Duplicate entry of SpecialHi)
+ Base knockback increased, 28 → 32

SpecialAirHi (Aerial Up Special: Super Jump Punch)
/ Deleted unknown action entries unk-7172A764(0x3fa00000)

IN SUMMARY
- Fair nerfed
- Grounded Up-Special buffed

Not including projectiles from the mine, since we've all noticed endlag for fireballs...he gained more power on Up B. Interesting.

Apparently he also got a bigger hitbox with the Up B.

 

[MarioMeteor]

So we got a stronger Fire Jump Punch and a forward air that combos better. The Year of Luigi truly is forever.

 

[Steelballray]

Ain't no arguing against the data, but up smash SERIOUSLY HONESTLY feel weaker to me... glad thats not the case.

 

[Pyr]

So we got a stronger Fire Jump Punch and a forward air that combos better. The Year of Luigi truly is forever.

AA said that the dump's changes might refer to the ****ty up-B, fiery jump punch. See:

To be clear, I'm almost entirely certain that subaction 17DB0241 is grounded up-2 (the custom special, in this case the awful move that has a bigger htibox in exchange for being weaker). Any action you see immediately after a default special will be the corresponding action for the custom version 2.

And, depending on the increase of end-lag, the beginning of the sweetspot range for "you're 'BOUT TO GET GRABBED, BRAH!" will be further away. That is big.

 

[Luig]

Nope, its the default. Up-b now kills at the same percent that a fully charged angled up Fsmash does. It koed at about 67% pre patch.

 

[MarioMeteor]

AA said that the dump's changes might refer to the ****ty up-B, fiery jump punch. See:



And, depending on the increase of end-lag, the beginning of the sweetspot range for "you're 'BOUT TO GET GRABBED, BRAH!" will be further away. That is big.

No, it's the default. The knockback scaling on it got buffed. Which is good, considering how weak it was in this game.
I have to say, I like the direction of "less damage, more KO options" they're taking Luigi.

 

[TriTails]

Holy **** Luigi got massively changed?

*Reads F-air damage reduction*

F-air has less hitstun.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF----------------------------------------------------

 

[Luig]

Nah, I think it's pretty good. Fair can now combo more reliably at higher percents in exchange for lower percents and FJP is now tied for his earliest koing move.

 

[TriTails]

Nah, I think it's pretty good. Fair can now combo more reliably at higher percents in exchange for lower percents and FJP is now tied for his earliest koing move.

And he gained a fireball nerf. (How may frames end lag now?)

Aw....

But hey, FJP buff is gud. It was pretty weak pre-patch.

So...

Did any other significant changes happened? Luigi is massively changed from what I can gather.

 

[Luig]

There is enough endlag so that you cannot lock an opponent more than once, but the endlag seems negligible.

 

[MarioMeteor]

Aside from the Fireball (which is hardly noticeable), old Green Thunder really hasn't changed much. He still has The Down Throw of the Gods. His up air still does 11% for some reason.

 

[Amazing Ampharos]

No, you misunderstood me. Default is changed, and the other sub-action that wasn't identified corresponded to up-2. Both are changed when used from the ground.

 

[Luig]

Ah, cool.
More buffs are good!
As if we care about that up b

 

[TriTails]

There is enough endlag so that you cannot lock an opponent more than once, but the endlag seems negligible.

Fair nerf, but justifiable. I luv you Mr. Sakurai! <3

We don't really jab lock a lot anyway. We are too floaty for footstool combos, and tech happens a lot in top level play.

Aside from the Fireball (which is hardly noticeable), old Green Thunder really hasn't changed much. He still has The Down Throw of the Gods. His up air still does 11% for some reason.

And Fire Jump Punch of the Titans.

U-air doing 11% is actually fair. It has more end lag than Mario's and it has bad angle to combo AND killing.

 

[Luig]

The endlag is not noticeable at all, in fact, the lock thing was the only way I could tell it had changed. I expected my main luigi to get nerfed this patch, but Sakurai blessed us.

 

[TriTails]

The endlag is not noticeable at all, in fact, the lock thing was the only way I could tell it had changed. I expected my main luigi to get nerfed this patch, but Sakurai blessed us.

Perhaps the fact that his placements in Apex, CEO, and EVO are all pretty shaky, so they know Luigi ain't anywhere near Sheik or ZSS.

 

[Luig]

I also expected my other main Sonic to get nerfed to oblivion. He only got a minor fsmash nerf.
Now those guys on the fox boards though....

 

[MarioMeteor]

To anybody who's interested, Fire Jump Punch now KOs 10% earlier, KOing Robin at 69% (giggity) in 1.0.8/9 and 59% in 1.10.

I also expected my other main Sonic to get nerfed to oblivion. He only got a minor fsmash nerf.
Now those guys on the fox boards though....

What exactly happened to Fox besides him losing that Double Jab of the Giants?

 

[Luig]

He got a aerial shine buff(now sends at about 30 degrees) but yeah......

 

[TriTails]

What exactly happened to Fox besides him losing that Double Jab of the Giants?

I suppose it was a bit of heavy thing to take. Fox loses Double Jab ->U-smash/U-tilt/things, which was pretty a lot.

I suppose they don't want a character who has U-smash of the Sparta to be able to combo to it from a F2 jab.

...Are we really going God of War in the namings here?