Lucas is in the Brawl! - General Discussion

[Iggy K]

All I can say is that if they don't re-release a "MOTHER: Trilogy Edition" internationally, whoever is in charge of the decision should be shot.

I'd be able to accept Ness being replaced by Lucas if this happened.

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

... Can you read? When did he say in that post that he thought Lucas had no chance at all? All he said was that Ness was one of his favourites.

That's not the point.

Somehow, people think that just because they aren't familar with the character, they don't deserve to be in or replace an older one.

That isn't true, Lucas has every right to be in, and replace Ness, which he most likely will.

 

[dk64]

the ginyu force of power rangers?

so far, lucas just looks like ness w/ a blonde jimmy neutron hairstyle. and i bet he plays like ness too. so to me, id till be playing as ness, but juz w/ a mini make over, so i don't mind him replacing him. but than again i've never played any earthbound/mother games, and i don't use ness much in smash either. ....btw, luke groundwalker, is the pic in yer sig suposed 2 be the power rangers version of the ginyu force or sumthin? well looking at it again, it could also be there version of starfox and crew?

 

[GenG]

This is a very good day indeed.

Ness isn't god and MOTHER 2 isn't the only game in the franchise. Sakurai knew that MOTHER should take a step forward Smash-wise.

Prepare for [MOTHER 3 SPOILERS]

Spoiler

New Pork Town as a stage, Ultimate Chimera as an AT, Saturn table as an item.

The party has just started and will be awesome.

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

LOL @ all the people who said Ness was confirmed

 

[Florida]

Congratulations all Lucas-supporters!
Who didn't want this guy in? >.>
Now I seriously want a Special Moves, or even a Final Smash update on this guy!

And in other news, I showed my mom Lucas' character profile, and this was her response:

"Jimmy is in your game?". Cracked me up!
... so yeah! Congrats! w00t, w00t and what not.

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

I love how Sakurai staying true to his claim on not adding more Japanese only characters!
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/endl sarcasm

 

[raphtmarqui]

I personaly perfer Lucas over Ness.

 

[silver777]

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/01/smash-bros-brawl-adds-mother-3s-lucas/

i can't tell if they really hate Lucas or making fun of him....or both..

>=(

 

[Link Sharingan]

also put mother3 in the title since lucas is also the name of the male pokemon trainer in the 4th generation

 

[the grim lizard]

I couldn't care less about Ness or Lucas, but you guys are pretty dumb if you don't consider the possibility that they could both be in. It isn't like Sakurai is very limited in the creativity dept....

 

[Dizzynecro]

I couldn't care less about Ness or Lucas, but you guys are pretty dumb if you don't consider the possibility that they could both be in. It isn't like Sakurai is very limited in the creativity dept....

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[Pluvia's other account]

I couldn't care less about Ness or Lucas, but you guys are pretty dumb if you don't consider the possibility that they could both be in. It isn't like Sakurai is very limited in the creativity dept....

Thank you Grim!

That's exactly what I've been trying to say!

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Ness does represent the first Earthbound game in America. It would be stupid to ditch him.

 

[GenG]

Ness does represent the first Earthbound game in America. It would be stupid to ditch him.

First, only and forgotten.

Ness got in SSB because Japan, not the US. US never said anything about the MOTHER franchise, which BY A CHANCE had the second game released there.

NOA even doesn't acknowledge this game was actually released in the US.

 

[Link Sharingan]

Ness does represent the first Earthbound game in America. It would be stupid to ditch him.

but the game dint sell well i tink that one of the reason mother3 wasent released in the US

 

[Aryman]

Hey all, all this Earthbound talk has me wondering if I should download a rom for it to try it out. Is it a good game? Do I need to play Mother 1 before I play 2?

 

[Fawriel]

1 and 2 are practically unrelated.
It's definitely worth checking out if you like rpgs with good gameplay, innovations and overall quirky style and if you don't demand realistic, super-awesome graphics.

 

[RBinator]

Where is there proof anywhere that Sakurai said that none of the original 12 characters from the first game wouldn't get cut? Opinions such as "they must have the original 12" or "not having the original 12 would be injustice" doesn't change what may already be set in stone. I'm not saying Ness is out, unlike many others who are super quick to jump to conclusions and act like they know more then what we actually learned about the game.

As for Lucas replacing Ness in Melee, that was quite awhile ago. Who's to say Sakurai feels the same way now as he did back in 2001?

 

[PyrasTerran]

I couldn't care less about Ness or Lucas, but you guys are pretty dumb if you don't consider the possibility that they could both be in. It isn't like Sakurai is very limited in the creativity dept....

Looks like someone gets it.

I personaly perfer Lucas over Ness.

Ness is a big deal to me because Earthbound was the first RPG I ever played, back in elementary school, and Ness was the character I idolized(and eventually used as my main in N64). It's really no other reason for me than sentimentality.

 

[Sinn]

NOA even doesn't acknowledge this game was actually released in the US.

Well that sure is ignorant of them.

In any case, I think I decided what it is about this whole thing that moderately pisses me off.

When I see a post about a brand new character that's never been in the game before, my first reaction is, "I wonder how they'll play...?" If this kid really does turn out to be nothing more than a clone of Ness (which would be the most likely case for Ness to be cut), then I personally feel that this really cheapens the meaning of having a "new" character in the game. It's NOT a new character. It's an OLD character with a new skin. Whoopdie-**q*in'-doo.

And this whole comparison I've seen a few people make with Ness is to Lucas as OoT Link is to TP Link is NOT even REMOTELY close. For starters, even though it's been established that there is more than one individual Link in the Zelda franchise timeline, it's ALSO been established (over a LARGE number of games, not just three) that most all of these Links are essentially the same character; they have the same name, they have the same destiny, they have the same powers, heck, they even use the same **** weapon (THE Master Sword) to defeat the same **** villain. On top of that, If this comparison is so accurate, why the Hell didn't they stick Lucas in the veteran area (since he IS just the "new Ness" according to them) or put TP Link in the newcomers' area?

Of course, if he IS different enough to be an entirely new character, then this just makes it ridiculous for Sakurai to just throw out Ness's character. But that doesn't seem to be what most people are assuming.

 

[silver777]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfP_d47V_jU

Starmen.net were right!! check the date of the vid!!

=O

 

[ripa9]

Im not gonna read other pages comments, but Lucas uses Nesse`s Nair and Fair in the pictures.

 

[Super Smash Master]

It looked like they gave Lucas a little more range as opposed to Ness. I hope they make him actually good in this game.

 

[Masque]

Im not gonna read other pages comments, but Lucas uses Nesse`s Nair and Fair in the pictures.

...So in other words, you're going to be consciously ignorant? I hope this doesn't become some sort of disturbing trend among the general posting populace.

His moves don't look to be exact copies, but those two moves look similar-ish to Ness's corresponding moves. It's too early to say yet, though.

 

[courte]

hopes

for a nintendo overload

fox krystal falco wolf
kirdy meta knight dee dee
Samus Ridley ?????
Lucas Ness Poo ??????
Donkey Diddy some ??? team
bring back gw throw in paper mario and give celda link a vaati to kick ***

Snake(raiden in some form, an outfit maybe) one castle vania (between simon and alucard
because while simon has the nintendo exclusive status, alucards just badass and would fit in brawl)
Sonic (team>?????), ...i dunno akira yuki
Megaman original, mmz zero (has been on gba every game)

please send back hate

 

[Chidosengan]

 

[Igneous42]

since i've never played earthbound i'm pretty much meh on this update. Not that I don't like him, he seems cool a welcomed addition. But at the same time I expected his to get in so not much excitement for me personally.

Even though I have never played earthbound I hope Ness retruns too. I think Mother seems popular enough to deserve two reps. But if Ness must leave then oh well

 

[Princess Diana]

I don't like lucas... He looks like one of those kids you know are going to be gay they when they grow up... >_>; Although I'd rather him replace ness than them be separate characters cause I don't want them to waste a good character space...

 

[Knyaguy]

Although I'd rather him replace ness than them be separate characters cause I don't want them to waste a good character space...

I wish they were both gone and Claus was the rep from Mother 3

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

First off, 'Lucas' is a far better name than 'Ness'.

Second, Lucas looks far cooler than Ness.

Third, I also hope that a perfectly good character slot is not wasted on Ness' return. >_>

 

[Black/Light]

I don't like lucas... He looks like one of those kids you know are going to be gay they when they grow up... >_>;

Wh-wha-whaooo??

He looks like Ness with Blond hair. . .

 

[Princess Diana]

Wh-wha-whaooo??

He looks like Ness with Blond hair. . .

Yeah but ness has a baseball cap and baseball caps are manly

 

[specialsauce]

Wh-wha-whaooo??

He looks like Ness with Blond hair. . .

haha he looks morre like a blond jimmy neutron with the swirly hair

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

His hairdo is very suave. I bet he gets all the ladies.

 

[PrettyGoodYear]

I wish they were both gone and Claus was the rep from Mother 3

Yeah. Let's have Bowser without Mario and Wolf without Fox and hey, Ganondorf without Link in SSB4.

 

[specialsauce]

His hairdo is very suave. I bet he gets all the ladies.

or according to Megadio26 he gets all the men hahaha

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

or according to Megadio26 he gets all the men hahaha

No, Ness does. Ness likes men.

 

[silver777]

Me on another thread:

Ness is a generic MOTHER hero. If Ninten were the Smash character then everybody would say he is OMG IMPORTANT instead.

Lucas is just the next step in the MOTHER hero stereotype. I wonder why Ness is suddenly so important and vital to the Nintendo story. Zelda fans accepted Twilight Link and Zelda. Why the MOTHER fanbase is being so reticent about a character that is an identical replica of the last one without cap and bag.

Lucas is actually better because he has a personality and gets some real character development in his game.

and his hair is cool.

 

[specialsauce]

Me on another thread:

Ness is a generic MOTHER hero. If Ninten were the Smash character then everybody would say he is OMG IMPORTANT instead.

Lucas is just the next step in the MOTHER hero stereotype. I wonder why Ness is suddenly so important and vital to the Nintendo story. Zelda fans accepted Twilight Link and Zelda. Why the MOTHER fanbase is being so reticent about a character that is an identical replica of the last one without cap and bag.

Lucas is actually better because he has a personality and gets some real character development in his game.

and his hair is cool.

yea i dunno but the way i see it is ice climbers came back and everyone thought they were gone for sure, it just seems like they wont be taking out characters from the melee roster except for a couple and i dont see ness as one of them