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GaW's juggle and plat pressure is eons more effective against DK than Lucario's, primarily because they function differently. GaW's aerial have a ton of lingering and wide hitboxes, while Luc's..as they do linger, as somewhat linear and therefore make it difficult to abuse landing frames. AS,ftilt, and fsmash do a better job at this, and none of those moves really do a good job against plats, at least not to the degree of GaW.you're going to DS this weekend?
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as far as DK goes i know when i used GW more and played DKs on BF he was very easy to juggle. because once you were under him and the plats stopped his fall he couldn't really get up in time to shield or prepare for the next hit. so with the stage being smaller and the platforms cut down on him landing on the main part of the stage, i find him very easy to juggle. so in lucario's case with fair, bair, up-air, bair, nair, and care bear.
well its good to know who to ban stages against and to try and take to certian stages. that's really the whole point of counter picking and stage striking. i mean as an olimar main i wouldn't take MK to luigi's mansion even though its oli's best stage, i would probably take him to corneria. so that's why its good to know that when we start striking stages to being a set, that it would be good to strike Battlefield against marth, and try to take him to FD. also i think this stage is probably average to good.
everyone has been staying not to take marf there
Psh. That's obviously an advantage >_>
I suppose my last post was for the benefit of kailo34ce.
unless you get spiked into the ground, you can't tech killmoves lol.
mmm i think that works better. i mean that's really what i was trying to get at but i didn't think of it in those terms.
Since we're a little behind Timbers' match up thread. We can either come back to the ones we missed at a later time, or if we get done early we can talk about some of the previous match ups
Lets not talk about why Yoshi's would be bad against a different character lets just stick to why its good or bad against DIDDY. If we talk about everyone then we're back to the old stage discussion.
um no. we're discussing how the lucario's opponents stack up on the stages themselves. not against lucario.
Not really. Knowing where to take characters (and why) is rarely discussed in depth in character matchup threads. Usually you are met with "go brinstar..." and that's it in the character matchup threads.
That's all dependant on who you are playing against. Period. End of Story.
I said w/e you feel most comfortable, and I already know for a fact that Lucario has a a pretty good advantage over Diddy on Brinstar. What's kanto? You mean PS1? The only reason I said that is because it's the closest thing to a neutral stage and Diddy's best stages are neutral stages, and I was naming the CPs you should bad, the neutrals you should ban are obviously Smashville first and Final Destination.
wrong. by knowing how well we do against our opponents on specific stages can determine a win or a loss. if you go into a match up not knowing how your opponent does on a stage you'll lose. lucario does good on FD, but diddy does better, and that's what you need to know.
