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Social Lucario Social: Aura Dog Days of Summer

MythTrainerInfinity

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I've still been debating between Lucario and Greninja, but all this pointless drama makes me kinda like the Greninja idea better...
We'll be happy to show you the way of the Aura Dog. If ya wanna get started I suggest looking at Eeveecario's guide or asking some of us to spar.
 

The Goldenbrawler

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Go Greninja
That's an idea, as I'd rather not join a group and have furry porn or an overdramatic "war" shoved in my face.
We'll be happy to show you the way of the Aura Dog. If ya wanna get started I suggest looking at Eeveecario's guide or asking some of us to spar.
If I decide to pick him, then sure, but I think you missed the point of my post...

Regardless, some other choices (although unlikely compared to Greninja or Lucario) I have are:
:4falcon: Most likely of this subgroup, but still behind Lucario or Greninja. Seems to be a solid choice, but I'm unsure on that matter.
:4peach: May hog up most of my time, ruining the point of having 3 mains.
:4samus: Likely not that great MU wise. Completely unknown to me, but the idea was brought up.
:4mewtwo: I'd like to, but can't...just too confusing and gives little rewards.
:rosalina: Least likely of this subgroup. Like Peach, plus is overused and her community is hated...for whatever reason(s) I'm likely unaware of.
 
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Mic_128

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All Lucarios, please read the first page regarding updated Skype issues.
 

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That is so gutless of you.

I didn't know what FAKKU was until Smashboards told me that Coastward was sponsored by them. It was a big deal. On Smashboards. There was a front page article that lasted for a week. On Smashboards.

Now you're actively trying to gag a social group, 100% separate from the website, on the idea that it might show something unsavory to a child.

I don't support the Lucario porn, or this dumb civil war, or the elitism some of us might have, but I hate hypocrites more than anything. Smashboards has advertised for YouPorn and FAKKU by writing articles about their competitors. And now you're threatening your users by demanding they practice abstinence when they participate in something wholly unrelated to your forums.

Pornography exists on the internet in the year of our lord twenty fifteen. Smashboards has announced that to the world. But it's okay when you do it.
 

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Are. You. ****ing. Kidding. Me?

That's it. I'm done. I'm ****ing done. You know, it's kinda fitting. The moderators of a Smash Brothers Forum acting like a bunch of whiny 8 year old For Glory ******* when things don't go their way.

Let me remind you that you are, in fact, going to permanently BAN someone from using this forum AT ALL. And for what? FOR ****ING POSTING A MOTHER ****ING SKYPE CHAT LINK?!?! ARE YOU ****ING SERIOUS??

Like holy ****. "Ahhhh.....they're taking away muh safe Interwebz space by linking stuff I don't have to click on at all that's clearly tagged NSFW in a totally separate entity from this area. DAAAAAAAAD!!!! BAN THEM FROM THIS FOREVER!!!"

So yeah. Go ahead and do that. You just alienated almost all of the Lucario mains here with your ****ing Third Reich rules, and not to mention lost the respect of a lot of people here. If you even had any of that to begin with seeing how you see SmashBoards as your ****ing princess that must be protected from ANY foreign "threat". When in fact it's completely blown out of proportion and your response is not only unwarranted but a completely **** move.
 

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Damn. I'm getting tired of this too. Skype is a social media. SB is a Smash Bros dedicated forum. As social media skype/facebook users don't have to follow SB rules anymore. Every skype group is owned by people, not SB mods. And don't exist ANY "official" skype group. If you gonna ban skype/facebook here, please ban in the entire SB too. Not only lucarios share porn in skype. I don't even saw any porn posted in there.

Sry for bad english.
 
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Rysir

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Lordy these boards got real toxic real fast. And there was a naughty linked in our chat only once and all this happens.
 

Mic_128

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Smashboards has advertised for YouPorn and FAKKU by writing articles about their competitors.
Annoyingly, that's how it works. However it's still significant news about these Smashers being sponsored. We didn't make a big deal about the companies, didn't talk about what sort of things can be found on their websites, did notprovide links to their websites, ect. We advertised 'porn' as much as any news outlet was when mentioning the Ashley Maddison debacle. News is news. We new it was involving content we weren't thrilled with, which, again, is why we didn't go into great lengths about the company, nor provided links to them.

Now you're actively trying to gag a social group, 100% separate from the website, on the idea that it might show something unsavory to a child.
No, we just don't to be providing direct links to a Skype chat where pornography is often posted, despite requests to stop. As such, we can't have it be called "official" and can't provide links to it for legal reasons.

And now you're threatening your users by demanding they practice abstinence when they participate in something wholly unrelated to your forums.
They're entirely welcome to do whatever they want in their chat. Just that we can't be associated with that and have to distance ourselves from it.

You just alienated almost all of the Lucario mains here with your ****ing Third Reich rules
Hello, Godwin.

I'll repeat: This is because of Legal Issues. I'm sorry you're not happy, but unless you want to change the law, it's how it is.

If anyone would like to continue discussing this, please do so in Forum Support, so this thread can get back on track.
 

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Annoyingly, that's how it works. However it's still significant news about these Smashers being sponsored. We didn't make a big deal about the companies, didn't talk about what sort of things can be found on their websites, did notprovide links to their websites, ect. We advertised 'porn' as much as any news outlet was when mentioning the Ashley Maddison debacle. News is news. We new it was involving content we weren't thrilled with, which, again, is why we didn't go into great lengths about the company, nor provided links to them.



No, we just don't to be providing direct links to a Skype chat where pornography is often posted, despite requests to stop. As such, we can't have it be called "official" and can't provide links to it for legal reasons.



They're entirely welcome to do whatever they want in their chat. Just that we can't be associated with that and have to distance ourselves from it.



Hello, Godwin.

I'll repeat: This is because of Legal Issues. I'm sorry you're not happy, but unless you want to change the law, it's how it is.

If anyone would like to continue discussing this, please do so in Forum Support, so this thread can get back on track.
As a moderator of the skype chat I would absolutely love it if the claims that our chat is ravaged by porn would be stopped. There was maybe one or 2 images linked one time a fairly long time ago and has not happened again since yet cries of bloody murder that we post it daily and frequently continue. Im sure we are all familiar with the phrase that goes along with assuming.
 

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There's never been direct links to any Skype chat, it's always been "pm so and so and they'll add you to this external group on said 3rd party service"

I take issue with this because the lucario community has made up its mind with regards to the type of chat they want and a decision like this serves to create a fissure between the lucario community and people trying to join them. This especially because you're trying to support a 2nd chat that is not as well liked by the community due to stricter rules.
 

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"If anyone would like to continue discussing this, please do so in Forum Support, so this thread can get back on track."

Change the topic? Ok i begin: :p
Hello i'm RMF and I am a "3ds warrior". If anyone want practice some lucario dittos in the portable version of the game just send a PM to me!

I tried.
 

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We didn't make a big deal about the companies, didn't talk about what sort of things can be found on their websites, did notprovide links to their websites, ect.
Yea I don't think we link porn here either, we just link a skype group lol.​
 

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You know, because this is the internet you actually are giving out links to the website when sharing its name as the name itself is a link as all thats missing is the www.
 

JohnnstR

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You know, because this is the internet you actually are giving out links to the website when sharing its name as the name itself is a link as all thats missing is the www.
more like the .com
 
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I love drama and politics. Truly the best mix.
 

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I like how everyone's complaining, yet theres a ton of likes on OP
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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This is one of the reasons there are two chat, for legals reason I pretty much am with Mic on this.

Frankly the division would have happened even without this.

Guess Myth chat is Iron Man and Kami chat is Captain America.
 

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legal reasons.

Legal Issues.
Which are?

Of course you have no obligation to answer, but I am interested into exactly what issue you face.

I sincerely hope it isn't just a scare tactic to cover up exactly 0 legal threat. In all my time on the internet, I have never heard of litigation against a forum provider where third party links that MAY contain porn are posted. Ban the users? Sure if they break the rules. But the forum actually getting taken to court?

Since I would expect that oh, just about every major forum on earth would violate this daily.

How does reddit exist if these legal reasons also exist.

Since people have an annoying habit of thinking I'm always being aggressive and flaming on a forum for simply challenging their opinion, Mic I am NOT being aggressive here. I just genuinely do not believe a forum can in any way be held responsible for its users posting links to chatrooms that are not illegal. If there were examples of this I would change my opinion on it instantly. As it stands though, you made claims with 0 proof, and it seems like all the experience and anecdotal evidence would go against your claims.
 
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#HBC | Red Ryu

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Which are?

Of course you have no obligation to answer, but I am interested into exactly what issue you face.

I sincerely hope it isn't just a scare tactic to cover up exactly 0 legal threat. In all my time on the internet, I have never heard of litigation against a forum provider where third party links that MAY contain porn.

Since I would expect that oh, just about every major forum on earth would violate this daily.

How does reddit exist if these legal reasons also exist.
http://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceos/citizens-guide-us-federal-law-obscenity


Section 1470 of Title 18, United States Code, prohibits any individual from knowingly transferring or attempting to transfer obscene matter using the U.S. mail or any means or facility of interstate or foreign commerce to a minor under 16 years of age. Convicted offenders face fines and imprisonment for up to 10 years.

There are also laws to protect children from obscene or harmful material on the Internet. For one, federal law prohibits the use of misleading domain names, words, or digital images on the Internet with intent to deceive a minor into viewing harmful or obscene material (See 18 U.S.C. §§ 2252B, 2252C). It is illegal for an individual to knowingly use interactive computer services to display obscenity in a manner that makes it available to a minor less than 18 years of age (See 47 U.S.C. § 223(d) –Communications Decency Act of 1996, as amended by the PROTECT Act of 2003). It is also illegal to knowingly make a commercial communication via the Internet that includes obscenity and is available to any minor less than 17 years of age (See 47 U.S.C. § 231 –Child Online Protection Act of 1998).

The site can get in trouble for that even if it is happening unoften or in a skype chat.
 

Rysir

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The site can get in trouble for that even if it is happening unoften or in a skype chat.
Change that unoften to not at all and you got the actual situation of the naughties. It was cute at first when it was said there was porn in our chat but now its getting annoying.
 

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Change that unoften to not at all and you got the actual situation of the naughties. It was cute at first when it was said there was porn in our chat but now its getting annoying.
I've been told it's not at all, not at all.

But hey this is what others have told me.

If it doesn't at all, then there is no problem providing it here.

Also this new chat was welcoming to everyone zzz
No it wasn't, it was quite the opposite in many respects.

The porn issue was one reason but I would honestly say it wasn't the main reason that spawn two chats in the first place.
 

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http://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceos/citizens-guide-us-federal-law-obscenity




The site can get in trouble for that even if it is happening unoften or in a skype chat.
Thanks for that, but I still see nothing that would indict smashboards

Section 1470 of Title 18, United States Code, prohibits any individual from knowingly transferring or attempting to transfer obscene matter using the U.S. mail or any means or facility of interstate or foreign commerce to a minor under 16 years of age. Convicted offenders face fines and imprisonment for up to 10 years.

Clearly the intent of SWF is to not do this, there's no way they could be blamed. Once again, if SWF could be blamed, so could every forum that has ever existed if you blame the service for what the users do. Since I have never heard of this happening and reddit exists...

There are also laws to protect children from obscene or harmful material on the Internet. For one, federal law prohibits the use of misleading domain names, words, or digital images on the Internet with intent to deceive a minor into viewing harmful or obscene material (See 18 U.S.C. §§ 2252B, 2252C).

Same as before, you have to prove intent. If SWF is complicit in minors finding porn, the google.com is the worst offender ever

It is illegal for an individual to knowingly use interactive computer services to display obscenity in a manner that makes it available to a minor less than 18 years of age (See 47 U.S.C. § 223(d) –Communications Decency Act of 1996, as amended by the PROTECT Act of 2003).

If anything, this would be the users fault, and then Skypes. SWF would be no where near getting blamed.

It is also illegal to knowingly make a commercial communication via the Internet that includes obscenity and is available to any minor less than 17 years of age (See 47 U.S.C. § 231 –Child Online Protection Act of 1998).

Same as before.

Of course I'm no expert on this stuff, but I really... REALLY hate it when people justify their actions because reasons. I'd love to see a website in the history of the internet getting in trouble because a user posted a link to a site that may or may not host porn.

What if someone on this forum mentions an art website, is that banworthy too because of reasons? We all know what you'll find on any popular art website.
 
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I've been told it's not at all, not at all.

But hey this is what others have told me.

If it doesn't at all, then there is no problem providing it here.



No it wasn't, it was quite the opposite in many respects.

The porn issue was one reason but I would honestly say it wasn't the main reason that spawn two chats in the first place.
The ones who have said theres porn in our chat are not even in our chat in the first place and word of mouth is a very weak thing when it comes to this sort of situation.
 
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