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Lord of the Rings mafia: Game Over

McCloud

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"So foul and f-air a day I have not seen.&quo
OS, you've made the first relatively scummy post just now in my mind. 7 pages of data and we have nothing to go off of? That doesn't make sense to me. We don't have an absolute majority, but we have leads, pressure, and an ongoing debate that should be helpful not only for today's lynch but further down the road.
 

Overswarm

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OS, you've made the first relatively scummy post just now in my mind. 7 pages of data and we have nothing to go off of? That doesn't make sense to me. We don't have an absolute majority, but we have leads, pressure, and an ongoing debate that should be helpful not only for today's lynch but further down the road.
We have what, three people with two votes to them each and one that just replaced an inactive that was considered for a lynch?

We have no clear direction. Instead of one person muscling the others, I'd propose randomization. If we can come to an agreement, cool .if not, randomize. There's no protecting potential scum if they're hiding in the group we choose from.
 

McCloud

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I think in three days we should be able to make a decision based off the discussion. I'm not sure if no lynch is a possibility in this game, but that's a viable option as well. I dislike randoming someone because it doesn't give town anything to go off of the next day. With a proper lynch, you can see who voted who, who thought what about who, and who pushed. The information and inevitable misinformation is much better than randomization in that regard.
 

#HBC | Mac

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I think in three days we should be able to make a decision based off the discussion. I'm not sure if no lynch is a possibility in this game, but that's a viable option as well. I dislike randoming someone because it doesn't give town anything to go off of the next day. With a proper lynch, you can see who voted who, who thought what about who, and who pushed. The information and inevitable misinformation is much better than randomization in that regard.
this

mafia is a game of information analysis. Information is very beneficial to town, ever more useful than lynches. randomizing removes this advantage and also.

OS, what would you consider an adequate amount of information to base a lynch off of?

@mccloud: I want some sort of response to what I posted, don't want to have wasted my life writing tht..
 

Overswarm

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Have you ever done a random lynch before?

It gives you a lot to go off of.
 

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No i've never done it, but i don't see how it would give you more to go off than a lynched based on actual in game stuff.

care to explain?
 

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How else do you expect people to want to go along with it.

Xonar, what's your meta-read on me? I should have asked you this earlier
 

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Oh jolly, ehh...

You're good at reading things, but you expect other people to catch on to it without much explanation. I like your... secretive I guess? playstyle. You can be more open when needed though. I bet I'm missing things, I'm just doing this on the spot.
 

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Just got home, finishing up my post for the night.

KirbYo needs to get active.
 

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And the last of the Iso's:

[Collapse=Xonar Iso]
Nah your opinion is fine.
Nah TBH a lot of our convo was just curiousity.
Dude nich SINCE WHEN AM I VOTING FOR MYSELF
You switched me and tom, me and mac are voting for tom.
Adum, I'm asking you to tell us about your meta on OS.
Please do.
What about Tom? He should die imo D:
Reread on Riddle
Don't like votes without purpose
Thus don't like his vote on Mac about RVS
What Macman said too
So yeah I'm possibly down with a Riddle lynch after I hear Chaco
Instead of gauging every piece of broken post, I'm just going to go ahead and say this is some weird play. Xonar, in my past experience with him, has never played like this. So, I find his whole play unusual. Does anyone else feel this as well, those of you who have past game meta with him. Moving along, I will say he hasn't done anything really incriminating. So, I'll continue to watch him for sure. Oh, I do like the fact I can tell where Xonar's mind is at and hes not playing completely cryptic.

Xonar, I'd like to see some complete posts from you if you don't mind.
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[Collapse=Tom Iso]
hello everyone, in case you didn't notice, half of us are already out of the joke phase. if you would please kindly start placing your votes so we can play the game, it would be appreciated.
Town ++

How did I seem anxious, when all I had posted was "I'm sure he meant that there are 9 members of the fellowship, and that there are 9 of us, so flavor or name claiming most likely wont be an issue. Also, he's not talking to you, mod! Shut up and let us play! :p" What, in that quote, seems against RVS? Maybe you can collect my anti-RVS stance *later*, when I literally say "we are out of RVS," but not when you had already FOSed me.

There is no rush, but when OS and I are actually talking about game-related stuff, there is no need to go back to talking about music. You don't need to be in the RVS anymore, Wumbo. (Macman, Xonar) (Riddle)


@Riddle: that's not McFox, that's McCloud.
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@Wumbo: That first post was before the game even started, I was stating that it was taking way too long for people to confirm their Role PMs. I'm sure you agree seeing as how you are asking the mod to prod them...

That second post was after your FOS, so you couldn't have used it to support your FOS logic.

So basically you are FOSing me for wanting to nix the RVS.

Do you think it is anti-town to be pushy or push for high activity / serious discussion? Do you think that is out of place on D1? We have 9 days to get push each other around, find suspicious people, have claims, have lynch - why don't we start asap?
This is typical town Tom D1 posting. I feel I can safely gauge this since I've played with and against Tom on a few occasions. ++

@Riddle, Macman, Xonar, adumbrodeus: Do you think OS's analysis of the flavor warrants further discussion? Do you think its pro-town or pro-scum or null to discuss flavor? What comments do you have about OS-Tom, or Tom-Wumbo?
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It's actually not a good idea to try to metagame the mod.




Adumbrodeus, how do you feel now about McCloud?



This caught my attention. You can feel that I'm town and you can feel that McCloud is town, but I don't like how you just said we are both town. What about this, then?



Lol.



Yes.



Lol.



You will stay the **** away from my pots and pans. Good first post though.



Heh. Lol. You the best Nicholas.



I don't like this. You voted Kirbyoshi for inactivity reasons, then Riddle voted him for inactivity reasons, then you chastised Riddle for voting Kirbyoshi for inactivity reasons. You can be as nitpicky as you want stating that you voted him "to accent his V/LA status," and how that makes your vote "different from" Riddle, but no, it doesn't.

vote: Overswarm
I do not like this however, and agree with OS.
--

Overall Read on Tom: Town

Disclaimer on this post: I tried to do this in a complete non-bias manner, and I feel it was easy to do so. However, I am doing this post upon request and do not want flak because I Iso's the playerslot I took over. [/collapse]

[Collapse=Overswarm Iso]
I feel like with a 7-2 advantage (6-2-1?) there should be some mathematical system that would allow town to win without actually posting. I might try to figure that out someday.
Irrelevant.

Same as ever. Hope you don't hand the win to mafia again.


My "flavor discussion" is pretty straight forward: it's a listing of what things could possibly come from flavor which, as posted, is pretty much nothing. So we don't have to discuss flavor.

I think a quick post saying "we don't have to discuss flavor" is more town than skimming over a post and ignoring the point and then voting for that person and saying "you're just trying to look town". You know what's more scummy? Voting for someone and using the buzzword "flavor" and assuming it means you're contributing.
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Does it matter? He won mafia for me in TMNT by being inactive in the game for like a dozen days straight. He was the doc, too. Hahahaha



What? How do you have a guilty on D1? Were there N0 actions?
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Why are you voting riddle
Irrelevant to OS read.

Cool. Don't do it. -_-;;
Agreed.

unvote vote kirbyoshi

The guy is a routine inactive, so he's my vote until something better comes along. He'll be "V/LA" on more than one occasion.

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What's your wagon "plan"? You don't want him lynched until he can come back, do you?
I'm actually iffy about this post, I'm not sure why either. Gut. Something about the wording for sure, I feel as if it implies he's going to be lynched anyways. --

He's V/LA until Saturday. Why are you pressuring someone who isn't here?

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I clearly stated that I'd switch my vote the moment something better came along; my vote was merely to accent KirbyYoshi's V/LA status and to reiterate how it was an issue for town in TMNT mafia. This is when he was a power role, mind you.
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You don't think there's a difference between putting a single vote on someone because they're inactive and someone else saying "wagon on this guy, gogogo" when he's inactive? It's been posted that he'll literally be away from his PC. My vote says that I'm willing to lynch an inactive if nothing else comes up. Riddle's tries to start a wagon on someone who isn't here. There is a difference.
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He didn't agree with me at all; his intentions were different than mine.
Not entirely, but mainly, yes. +-

Because I searched for your activity in other games when I was mafia in TMNT and found you to be incredibly unreliable; in addition to this, you were active on smashboards but not in the game so I felt comfortable enough to bank on a modkill. Which happened.
No, no modkills. Replacements. -- Reason I marked this scummy, modkills in no way help the town unless it's scum. Replacements are a much better resource, and alleviate the high percentage of a town loss.

Nope. More information = more complex choices.
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My list:

I love Overswarm
I hate everyone else
Irrev.

I'll comment when something sparks my interest
Fair enough since you're active. +-

Cool story, bro.

Mafia 101

Say things that are open to interpretation so that the person reading them will immediately think you are thinking what they are. Slight implications are great for this.

Ya know, like "Notice how OS got all "meh" AFTER I put suspicion on him". This does all sorts of things!

It implies that OS is "meh" about things. What "meh" is isn't really well defined or even possibly well deserved unless you're basing your case off of the whopping three posts after yours. Hardly a case. MAYBE an observation. Maybe.

Then the "AFTER I put suspicion on him", whoo boy, genius. Saying this implies that the suspicion is the reasoning for the action you are accusing me of! Correlation = causation, amirite?

Of course, the implications given aren't expanded upon. That would give you a stance, and stances are hard because other people can call you out on them. But simply implying something without clarifying the "why" or the degree of negativity? That's a lot safer, since anyone that agrees with you will automatically associate your implication as meaning you're on their side. You then get to piggy back the moment someone else picks it up!

So in the course of one sentence you managed to make a straw man argument, flat out lie or make an unsupported claim, make strong implications without clarifying the purpose nor the degree, and, the funniest thing ever...

Did it immediately after agreeing with me by posting this:



So, like I said before:

cool story, bro.

My vote stays.
Lol. ++

I voted for you first, then you voted for me for yelling at Riddle for voting for you to start a wagon while you were V/LA, then you yelled at Riddle for voting for you to start a wagon while you were V/LA.

I think if anyone has pulled an OMGUS vote, it'd be you ;)

Seriously though, you've not really been consistent at all and seem to be pretty content with saying "OMG ITS OVERSWARM SCUUUUUM" rather than, ya know, refuting points. Or letting silly little things like agreeing with me get in your way when it comes to attacking me.
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My vote's staying on KirbyYoshi for now.

I find it less likely that Riddle is scum, seeing as how he did something incredibly stupid and did it by himself. Still possible, I'm just giving him more credit than that.

KirbyYoshi though, he's done things that only make sense if they were done by two separate people. So my vote stays.
Elaborate on the last comment please.

In a game where flavor is prevealent, name claiming could be an issue. For example, if a LotR mafia game was made that said "good luck fellowship, stop that giant flaming eyeball" and had 13 players we'd go "oh, there's 9 town, 3 mafia, and an independent. Fellowship, Gollum as indie, obvious bad guys as obvious bad guys".

Bam, done. We name claim and bad guys have pressure on them.

In this one it is likely that anyone could be mafia.
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I'm willing to claim. But... know this Gandalf: you will die when you claim. Not for any particular reason, just that mafia will be like "that dude has a ****ing power" and will kill him. That means that it'd be everyone claiming and Gandalf saying "not Gandalf!" and hoping he doesn't die.

This could be good if Gandalf was just a rnadom VT, but we don't know that so... I'd be against name claiming. We learn nothing, and it gives scum a direction that is outside of the game and thus can't be tracked directly.


I still think KirbyYoshi is the lynch for today.
I don't like the comment I'm willing to claim, saw that used before as a scum gambit. So it raises a tadbit of suspicion. +-

Tom has posted once yesterday around 11 p.m. EST in barhouse mafia, but nowhere else. Unsure of his activity level or if he's lurking this thread, but his last activity was today at 12:15 AM EST (15 minutes after midnight) so he hasn't even been on today.
Stalk stalk stalk. Also, irrev.

nuke: Xonar and Macman

>:[

That was confusing.



Because people were talking about him being inactive and really he wasn't being specifically inactive in this game.



That's dumb as ****, considering there's no possible way you could no that in any way shape or form at this point in the game. The only thing this statement could possibly do is set up for a back-to-back lynch of two townies if you were scum, since you'd know we were both town and would consider it "proof" that since I/KirbyYoshi flipped town the other must be scum.

Because we all know town never disagree with each other and mafia get into loud confrontations, right?

FoS: Summoner
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Our lynch pool.

For my purposes, I'm obviously not a candidate. I understand if it's different for people who aren't Overswarm.

Xonar I like. Not getting a town or scum read on him at all, but I like him since he's giving me a decent amount of information. Xonar stays for now.

KirbyYoshi I don't like. I have a sneaking suspicion he's town, but he's stil the best candidate for me.

Riddle I'm confused as to why people are voting for him. Can someone give me an idea?


Btw, Tom != mafia due to inactivity, and he'll be replaced soon so not an issue for now.



If we can't get an agreement, I'm literally going to record myself using a randomizer between the three remaining names and determining who is lynched based on that. I'll post the video. :p
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Because he's blatantly inactive and has been a discussion point? Why are you asking obvious questions?
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Yes, assuming that we have no other options. Tom's inactivity has already been addressed by the mod and he will be replaced if he doesn't come back. Tom isn't normally inactive and he's been inactive across all games. Everything
we know about Tom's inactivity points to it not being an issue in the future.
Inactive talk, so +-

Macman, responsibility is now yours.
Irrev

Overall Read: Town, few things to watch though.[/collapse]
 

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And now since all of my Iso's are done, I can move on and say my vote is going to Riddle for toDay.

Unvote; Vote: Riddle

I've already outlined why, in previous posts. Now, the reason I chose to ignore his roleclaim is because I do not feel it is that relevant to this game. Especially when you use a roleclaim which OS has already used an example.
 

Overswarm

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No, no modkills. Replacements. -- Reason I marked this scummy, modkills in no way help the town unless it's scum. Replacements are a much better resource, and alleviate the high percentage of a town loss.
You just kind of gave yourself away here. You didn't read anyone's posts in context, you merely read their posts.

FoS: Chacotaco

Since I'm probably going to die tonight:

Macman and KirbyYoshi are my top two suspects.

Afterwards I'd say ChacoTaco and maybe Riddle.

Don't tunnel vision these players just cuz I said so when I die and I flip as town.
 

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Vote Count:
overswarm(2): kirbyoshi, Chaco
xonar():
kirbyoshi(1): Overswarm
riddle(2): Summoner, adumbrodeus
adumbrodeus():
mccloud(1):Riddle
Chaco(2): Macman, Xonar
macman(1): Mccloud
summonerau():
Not voting:

Deadline is noon EST on June 27th.
 

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What are you even talking about, OS? Even from the post itself you can tell you're talking about another game, and your alignment. The reason I marked it as scum here is because the acceptance of modkills is a mirrored ideal, if you'll take it in one game you'll take it in another.

Honestly, if you want something to throw at me, you're going to have to dig a lot harder. Saying I'm reading out of context, on a piece of text that you can easily tell out of the game by itself what it is talking about, is pretty ****ing hysterical. You just raised my brow a bit.

Here's the Mac Iso, I forgot to cut and paste it apparently.

[Collapse=Mac Iso]
vote: summoner

recovery hasn't grown on me yet and its still meh in my mind. but i have hope tht one day ill realize how good it is... i simply just havent yet
Irrev.

Irrev.

dunno why you are interfering
Irrev.

vote: adum
??

vote:riddle
fos: adum
...

vote: adum
??

Cuz i think yur scum

:rolleyes:
No. This fits Mac meta perfectly.

ill explain better later =D

but its mostly gut
Like a glove.

alright yo

im mad bored and people need to post in this more(@tomothy: i am dissapoint... better not be scum)

brb
This is what makes me also lean town on Mac, he's always eager to post as town, where as scum he does not know what to say and stays low. Either that or he replaces out D1. <.< ++

Riddle and I didn't follow up on this at all though we have both posted. Why didn't you follow up. Is there a reason you aren't posting as frequently as you were earlier in the game, pgs 1 and 2.



I don't like that last line of this at all. It's like you're willing to accept his explanation but want to make sure that you show there is still doubt in your mind so you can come back later and shed suspicion on him. I hate wishy-washy statements or statements that aren't concrete.



In retrospect, you shoulda let riddle respond =/. oh wellz


I think it's funny that you are scolding summoner about the rvs. You didn't say the same to Xonar or I when we disregarded discussion and kept talking about unrelated things. Why is that?



How come you never followed up on your suspicion of me/question to me. You asked a legit question and my actions are arguably a good reason to vote for me. But then you switched to kirbyoshi cuz he's V/LA. Why? Your vote on me was way more solid and could have possibly led somewhere for yu in determining my alignment. But you completely dropped it. Why didn't you follow up/continue pushing?


not sure what you're saying here. What's the problem with thinking you both are town as opposed to thinking you guys are both town separately?


So do you think i'm scum or do you just not like how i'm playing. Be a little more concrete in what you are saying. And here it is, something i brought up earlier in the post. You were willing to accept mcclouds explanation but now yur going back and saying yu still don't like it and it's causing you not to like him.
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Yea i was thinking that as well.

w/e tho
Already addressed in wall text, p. much

where yall at

****
Once again, meta is yelling at me.

vote: riddle

adum, the first thing you responded to was directed to tom, not you
Legitimate vote this time.

nick do i have to unvote to vote again?

if so can you get rid of that rule? kthx =D
Irrev.

i think riddle wud make for a great d1 lynch
Me too.

how is it almost deadline

vote: tom
are you gonna play? It's vastly uncharacteristic of you to be inactive.
Meta. ++

maybe we shud nameclaim anyways

get it out of the way. Are there specific names that prs are more likely to have?

I don't know anything about lotr and i skimmed OS's post. (lol i hate flavor discussion)
Trying to generate some discussion. ++

the lynch is def between tom, riddle, and summuner
Stating top 3 suspects, good.

kirbyoshi is SOOOO not the lynch
Still wanna know where you just decided this from.

so im losing interest in this game

since it seems like only 3 of us are playing
Meta.

Summoner, what do you think about tom?
Questioning for activity.

THe fact that he isn't posting at all after posting alot initially doesn't bother yu.

also, we were mafia together once, so i'll be able to tell if yur mafia now. Are you frightened?
Lol

but he's posted in other games(atleast one other at the very least). Do you not think inactivity should be a reason to vote/lynch someone?

do you think i'm scum? Why or why not?
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so lol sorry for interviewing you, but i'm bored and you're on and you were one of my lynch options so i have to grill you now while you're online.

Expand on your reasoning for thinking riddle is scum. You weren't very clear previously.
Why do you think OS and KirbYo are opposite alignments. You don't consider their confrontation to be TvT? Why not?
You said you weren't ok with lynching Tom for inactivity, would you be ok to lynch anyone else for inactivity.
Do you know much about LOTR? Should we name claim?

(remember, be honest. =D)
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word summoner.

Tom is scum, OS is town...

xonar, what do you think of the game. Why are you hiding behind asking questions. You still haven't given any of your own input at all.
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whyd yu ask me specifically about tom and os
...

you'll explain later? Why not now?
...

...

tom/riddle is my current scum pairing and has been for a while.

you can't expect me to answer your questions willingly if you refuse to answer mine xonar.
...

what

idfk

i dun wanna answer yur questions if yur not gonna be cooperative with me
...*sigh*

yep becuz i know how to get over my annoyance

yu done yet?

willing to explain?
........

i have no idea

but i don't think yu have any reason in asking these questions and i'm tryna get you to tell me if you do so that i can keep the opinion that tom/riddle is the scumteam
Still going.

but if you keep asking questions just to give off the impression that you're being helpful or trying to attain information than i'm going to question whether you are scum and one of tom or riddle isn't which wud stop me from going hard on em

and you know how i love to tunnel =/
Daaaaannnnnggggg.

overswarm is right about that. It's the fallacy of TvS arguments.

i however don't think scummoner is scummy because of that. Though it's possible. I kind of shrugged it off as a newbish thing that he saw other ppl do in other games and thot it was a legit way to think.
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Riddle, should we lynch tom?
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you implying that tom shud get a free clear from getting lynched today becuz of his inactivity?
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anyways,

riddle's the lynch for today seeing as how hes obvscum.

I'm sure xonar will vote with me, we need one more. Any one willing?
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after class homie

but mostly becuz he dropped his legitimate question to me for no reason even tho id dint answer nor change my ways. so it just seems like he said it to give off the appearance of caring

and cuz besides that he hasnt done anything this game, except for react and hop on KYs bw
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Overall Rad on Macman: Town, meta has a lot to do with it. But if anyone, I can gauge Mac.[/collapse]
 

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What are you even talking about, OS? Even from the post itself you can tell you're talking about another game, and your alignment. The reason I marked it as scum here is because the acceptance of modkills is a mirrored ideal, if you'll take it in one game you'll take it in another.

Honestly, if you want something to throw at me, you're going to have to dig a lot harder. Saying I'm reading out of context, on a piece of text that you can easily tell out of the game by itself what it is talking about, is pretty ****ing hysterical. You just raised my brow a bit.
Explain .
 

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I would tend to agree on OS on this, generally unless the person involved is scum, and scum knows who is and isn't scum, making them easier to selectively pick for modkills to encourage.


There's a good chance I'm getting NK'd toNight so:

I like OS (explained)

I sort of like Chaco (tons of information, but OS is right in that the modkill comment is odd)

I like macman (active, liberal application of pressure)

I'm unsure about Xonar

I don't like Summoner and Kirby for the same reasons (little activity, little content, seems to be attempting to blend in)

I sort of dislike McCloud (doubts from the beginning, and hasn't been showing a good pressure game to alleviate it, if he wants to be off my potential scum list, he needs to be pro-town).


Riddle is the play of the day, unless he shows massive improvement before the deadline, either playing extremely dumb or is scum.


If riddle flips town, my top choice for scum-team is summoner/kirby



Gonna be V/LA for the rest of the day, hopefully should get access back sometime saturday, I don't get a chance to post anymore (you guys drop the hammer today, and I get NK'd) good luck, and DON'T JUST CONCENTRATE ON MY SUSPECTS!
 

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modkills that don't end the day are def in town's favor. It give's town an extra kill. Like a collective vigshot.

i'm gonna be v/la a lil bit today and prolly all of tomorrow. I should be back sunday to post. What time is the deadline on sunday?
 

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Explain .
What part? I'm pretty sure I explained it quite well. But, let's just go ahead and ask:

Are you in favor of modkills, yes or no? If yes, the statement stands. If no, I read it as you are in favor of modkills because you were banking on it and posted that comment. Regardless of alignment, I feel if you bank on modkills you support them. Never as scum have I banked on modkills. It could be a personal preference, I just think it's ****ty. Cause I quite frankly hate inactives, and hate it more when they pretty much suicide a useful playerslot.

modkills that don't end the day are def in town's favor. It give's town an extra kill. Like a collective vigshot.
An unguided vigshot, which hits an inactive. Inactive! = Scum, wrong. So, the chances are high for a 3 town sweep: The Modkill, the Day's Lynch, and the Nightkill. In a 9 person game, that doesn't leave very good odds.

Also, cut the "There's a high chance I'm going to die tonight" gambit, simple as it may be.
 

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I'm pretty sure I'm blind as ****, and didn't see the bolded. But yeah, I still think I covered it. If I didn't well enough, I can clarify.
 

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What part? I'm pretty sure I explained it quite well. But, let's just go ahead and ask:

Are you in favor of modkills, yes or no? If yes, the statement stands. If no, I read it as you are in favor of modkills because you were banking on it and posted that comment. Regardless of alignment, I feel if you bank on modkills you support them. Never as scum have I banked on modkills. It could be a personal preference, I just think it's ****ty. Cause I quite frankly hate inactives, and hate it more when they pretty much suicide a useful playerslot.
What the **** does my personal feelings on a mod kill have to do with anything? Modkills exist, I was scum in TMNT, and I used it to my advantage to win.

You have been demoted to least trust worthy player in this game solely by your ability to reason.

FoS: ChacoTaco
 

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To clarify, by "ability to reason", it should be prefaced by "lack of"
 

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What the **** does my personal feelings on a mod kill have to do with anything? Modkills exist, I was scum in TMNT, and I used it to my advantage to win.

You have been demoted to least trust worthy player in this game solely by your ability to reason.

FoS: ChacoTaco
Alright, let me break this down for you since you are now insulting my intelligence. Have you ever witnessed the occurence of mafia "ideals", so to speak, used to gauge an alignment? Well, if you haven't, go to MafiaScum for awhile and play with more advanced players. I have seen it used many a time in games, and would pull examples but I have not been on MafiaScum since February and would not know where to begin. Anyways, to further explain the tactic and how it relates to my comment., essentially you take a piece of meta as such or a lot of meta if you've played with them before. And you apply it to their actions in game, such as with modkills. I've seen this used before actually, where he gauged a player who is usually against modkills and saw the change of light in game. Called him out upon it, and sucessfully spearheaded a lynch of scum. This, I feel can be applied with your meta. Of course you're not going to understand the trick because it's being used on you. Now, for what I did. In that post, I saw a bit of meta that was applicable. pretty much "I banked on the modkill." I posted that in your Iso as scummy, to see if it was a paralleled ideal. But, unfortunate to my gauging you have evaded the question now for quite a few posts. So, if you would, please answer. Also, easy on the personal insults. No one likes that guy who just throws insults, and so far that guy has been you.

@Xonar: Why Adum?
 

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good man


noon deadline will be sucky for me tho.
Yes, that kills a breaking strategy though where the suspected townie gets themselves modkilled to give them another lynch, pretty much. I've never seen it implemented since the common practice is now to end days though. It is a cheap strategy though, and used to be used.
 

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Most everything I've seen has been good, pretty solid town read. Didn't like the simplistic dual gambit from Adum and OS though.

What do you think of a Riddle lynch?
 

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Lolwut, what I think as far as town or scum? That'd be related to his play. If I think he's a nice guy? Yeah, he seems pretty nice. What exactly do you mean?
 

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Don't know of any Adum meta, this is my first time playing with him. I however have seen him debate, so, it adds a hint of know about him. I like his playstyle, very informative and he doesn't mask his opinions.
 

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Alright, let me break this down for you since you are now insulting my intelligence. Have you ever witnessed the occurence of mafia "ideals", so to speak, used to gauge an alignment? Well, if you haven't, go to MafiaScum for awhile and play with more advanced players. I have seen it used many a time in games, and would pull examples but I have not been on MafiaScum since February and would not know where to begin. Anyways, to further explain the tactic and how it relates to my comment., essentially you take a piece of meta as such or a lot of meta if you've played with them before. And you apply it to their actions in game, such as with modkills. I've seen this used before actually, where he gauged a player who is usually against modkills and saw the change of light in game. Called him out upon it, and sucessfully spearheaded a lynch of scum. This, I feel can be applied with your meta. Of course you're not going to understand the trick because it's being used on you. Now, for what I did. In that post, I saw a bit of meta that was applicable. pretty much "I banked on the modkill." I posted that in your Iso as scummy, to see if it was a paralleled ideal. But, unfortunate to my gauging you have evaded the question now for quite a few posts. So, if you would, please answer. Also, easy on the personal insults. No one likes that guy who just throws insults, and so far that guy has been you.

@Xonar: Why Adum?
unvote vote chacotaco
 

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Give us some examples of the things you've learned from Adum then, Chaco... as he's that informative and stuff.

Also, do you think it's more profitable for town to see where a townies minds at then for a scummar?
 
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