List for the next release (Updated 7/23)

[The Cape]

Bigger hitbox on DK nair? Good spacing from the front that way.

 

[Revven]

Bigger hitbox on DK nair? Good spacing from the front that way.

I could support this (doesn't mean I do), the Nair is so situational as is that it just lacks the range Bair has and pretty much every aerial that DK most uses overshadows this move completely. It's only use right now is when you go down through a platform and randomly do a Nair (unexpectedly).

Dunno how it would do though if the hitboxes were bigger. I still don't think DK needs it though.

 

[goodoldganon]

090F0029 3FA66666
0916002C 3F99999A

Falcon d-tilt 30% faster after frame 15
and falcon f-smash 20% after frame 22

 

[goodoldganon]

Updated the post again. Also, by request of the Sonic mains.

2F098064 3F800000
2F008064 3FA66666

B-air is 30% faster till frame 9, then returns to normal speed.

OLD FRAME DATA
-Bair
Hitbox comes out on: 13
Duration: 13-16
Ends:Frame: 37

NEW FRAME DATA
-B-air
Hitbox comes out on: 9
Duration: 9-12
Ends Frame: 34

 

[Team Giza]

I'm not sure if the IC infinite remover works completely. It seems to still work if I back throw into Nana's dashing grab.

 

[GHNeko]

I'm not sure if the IC infinite remover works completely. It seems to still work if I back throw into Nana's dashing grab.

But is the other guy instantly regrabbed or do they fly for a second before being regrabbed?

 

[CT Chia]

im running a brawl+ tourney on sunday, any suggestions for which codeset i should use?

should i use 6/10 nightly or 4.1 official

 

[GHNeko]

6/3 nightly. :V

6/10 has a few oddities really.

6/3 would be alot better and its further along than 4.1

 

[goodoldganon]

6/3 Nightly or The Brawlplussery set would be best. I say Plussery so we can keep to our statement that the nightlies are tourney material, but w/e

 

[Team Giza]

I kinda threw it all together randomly so I hope it doesn't mess any other parts of the gameplay up. I did not have time to check if 0105 is ever used in other parts of the game. Anyway, I present a Ganondorf side+B fix.

Conditional Action Mod lines
FF0000EA 00490105
FF000105 0040004A

Frame speed mod line
FF000105 55500000

Hope it works.

 

[goodoldganon]

I kinda threw it all together randomly so I hope it doesn't mess any other parts of the gameplay up. I did not have time to check if 0105 is ever used in other parts of the game. Anyway, I present a Ganondorf side+B fix.

Conditional Action Mod lines
FF0000EA 00490105
FF000105 0040004A

Frame speed mod line
FF000105 55500000

Hope it works.

I'm semi-hard now...

I hope to become fully erect if this works.

Since I have no one to test this with I haven't bothered...sorry.

 

[Revven]

This needs to get fixed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyD9ySEmxas&feature=channel_page

All I got right now. I think that^ is a glitch from the electric hitlag code or Falco's grav. (I'm leaning more towards the former). If it IS electric hitlag, we need to raise it to fix it.

 

[JCaesar]

I've seen that happen from bthrowing C. Falcon too (at Apex). I couldn't recreate it and couldn't record it though which is why I never mentioned it. Well, I think I did mention it at some point but I didn't make a big deal out of it.

 

[leafgreen386]

Wow. Falco dittos are pretty dumb. This is the kind of glitch we really cannot let happen, since it makes the game look really unprofessional. Not to mention it's a broken fricking tactic.

 

[GHNeko]

And thoughts to what is causing this?

 

[leafgreen386]

And thoughts to what is causing this?

Maestro thinks it's the frame speed mod. If it turns out this doesn't work in earlier builds, then it would seem likely that that is the cause. If it does work, then it's most likely a combination of electric hitlag and gravity.

 

[Revven]

Maestro thinks it's the frame speed mod. If it turns out this doesn't work in earlier builds, then it would seem likely that that is the cause. If it does work, then it's most likely a combination of electric hitlag and gravity.

JC said he saw it happening at Apex last month on Falcon and against Falco. So I def. think its grav.

 

[shanus]

Easiest way to test if if slowing down the animation at the end breaks it or not.

 

[goodoldganon]

I'm updating this again with what we have done up to June 22. Also, Kaiser informs me that Ness's d-air is actually coming out on frame 17, not 16 like it should.

 

[VietGeek]

Btw, just remembered some things, IDK if they're still in priority or not:

- Character Specific Friction
- Fix spawn points for Luigi's Mansion

Other:

- Should probably get around to making a real ruleset. <_<

 

[shanus]

I figured out a new much more polished version of the Ness DJC where they basically have to hit jump and attack at the same time for a certain window to allow the DJC.


I haven't test it out yet, it might need some tweaking as I haven't made the frame windows exactky:

Ness Idea

Frame Speed

11B Speed up to be ~2-3 frames
00C (Double Jump( speed up startup by 2 frames)
Speed up Soft-wall Hit to 1 frame (049)

Conditional Action Modifier

Previous action is 11B, Current action is Special Fall, Put into Second Jump
Previos Action is Jump, Current Action id DJ, Put into 11B
Previous Action is 11B, Current action is attack, put into action for vertical momentum cancel (meaning the user only enters DJC if they buffer during or attack the frame after 11B ends!)
Previous Action is vertical momentum cancel, current action is tumble, put into attack
Previous Action is PKT2, Current Action is 11B, Put into Special Fall


frame speed
0A00011B 40A00000
0A03000C 3F800000
0A00000C 40000000
0A000047 40A00000


cam
0A00011B 0010000C
0A00000B 000C011B
0A00011B 00330047
0A000047 00490033
0A00011C 011B0010

 

[leafgreen386]

Honestly, I don't think that's gonna work. We really just need to be able to specify up to two actions previous, and we'd be able to do all the complex chains we wanted to.

 

[Deleted member]

we can't check on the previous 2 action, only the previous one. that or I would have to write an overly complicated code that stores the last X actions somewhere, but that might ask too much from the proccesor

 

[shanus]

still can't get this to work, but putting this in for storage purposes:

CAM
0A00011C 011B0010
0A00000B 000C011B
0A00011B 0010000F
0A00011B 000F000C
0A00011B 00330047
0A000047 00490033


Frame
0A00011B 40A00000
0A03000C 3F800000
0A00000C 40000000
0A000047 40A00000

 

[VietGeek]

Speaking of CAMs, I just thought about something.

You know that you can press down to reject ledge grabbing right?

Well when you do that with a tether, it does the reject animation and doesn't do anything.

Considering the WOW WTF LARGE window of tether sweetspotting, couldn't you make it so if you press down and tether, that it replaces the worthless reject animation with a standard Z-air attack?

This would help Link out in getting back on stage (autocanceled poke move into combos? Yeah, pretty cool) and sugatcoat Samus and Toon Link's zair, which their games are also pretty emphasized on (wow wording here sucks I need more sleep).

Yeah, that would be cool.

So would giving Lucas a zair but no hitbox no business in WBR.

 

[goodoldganon]

Wario Pummel
15026400 0016903A
02640000 01690000
FFFFFFFF 3F800000

Coin pummel for Wario. DOOOOO ITTTTT!

 

[leafgreen386]

Wario Pummel
15026400 0016903A
02640000 01690000
FFFFFFFF 3F800000

Coin pummel for Wario. DOOOOO ITTTTT!

You're a horrible ganon main. You do this for wario but don't make a darkness pummel for ganon?

 

[JCaesar]

WiFi Training Room Music
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Can we remove this please? It's wholly unnecessary and only makes things confusing with the new custom music hack.

Speaking of which, File Patch 3.5 needs to be added ASAP

 

[shanus]

Need people to review the current in progress build so that I can post it some point this weekend

 

[JCaesar]

Cool thanks, I'll test it out today.

 

[goodoldganon]

updated since I let this waste over the past month.