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dthrow -> nair works too.Now that we have an improved grab game and a reliable Usmash, I was hoping to see an updated list of combos and strings available to the hero of Hyrule. Anybody have one yet?
I'm happy to help compile one, though I'm having trouble finding a pre-1.08 list that I know is valid. I went through the stickied posts, but what I found was limited or fragmented.
Can anybody help out a bit?
Still valid: (if anybody lists some below, I'll add them here)
- forward bomb -> dash attack
- jab 1-2-3
- upward bomb -> uthrow
As for 1.08, the strings I've read about so far boil down to:
dthrow -> Usmash
dthrow -> utilt
dthrow -> hop Uair
Please forgive me if I'm posting wrong somehow; I've been a lurker, but I'm new around here.
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There was a post regarding all of Link's combos and strings before the patch a couple pages back. There certainly are more combos that can be done now than there were pre-patch.Now that we have an improved grab game and a reliable Usmash, I was hoping to see an updated list of combos and strings available to the hero of Hyrule. Anybody have one yet?
I'm happy to help compile one, though I'm having trouble finding a pre-1.08 list that I know is valid. I went through the stickied posts, but what I found was limited or fragmented.
Can anybody help out a bit?
Still valid: (if anybody lists some below, I'll add them here)
- forward bomb -> dash attack
- jab 1-2-3
- upward bomb -> uthrow
As for 1.08, the strings I've read about so far boil down to:
dthrow -> Usmash
dthrow -> utilt
dthrow -> hop Uair
Please forgive me if I'm posting wrong somehow; I've been a lurker, but I'm new around here.
Hey there. I think you missed my post above, but if you want to see what I've compiled so far, check it out.Now that we have an improved grab game and a reliable Usmash, I was hoping to see an updated list of combos and strings available to the hero of Hyrule. Anybody have one yet?
I'm happy to help compile one, though I'm having trouble finding a pre-1.08 list that I know is valid. I went through the stickied posts, but what I found was limited or fragmented.
Can anybody help out a bit?
Still valid: (if anybody lists some below, I'll add them here)
- forward bomb -> dash attack
- jab 1-2-3
- upward bomb -> uthrow
As for 1.08, the strings I've read about so far boil down to:
dthrow -> Usmash
dthrow -> utilt
dthrow -> hop Uair
Please forgive me if I'm posting wrong somehow; I've been a lurker, but I'm new around here.
Seemed somewhat situational, but that's still pretty sick.
Somehow unsure how this affects our metagame.
Actually we recently discussed this on the Toon boards. Essentially U-throw has two hitboxes, the first was designed to hit third parties, and then the second hit which follows immediately after hitstun on the one being thrown is designed for them. So yes, if you interrupt the throw with very precise timing in-between the two hits, you can send the opponent at that weird horizontal trajectory. Unless a more reliable set up is found however (perhaps with buffered inputs), this is a dead end imo just because of how precise the timing is.
after the patch and he feels great. Down Throw buff was just what he needed and the alterations made to his standing and dash grab are pretty great. I love his new D-Tilt now as well. Its a decent OOS option and Link can follow it up with an U-Air / F-air.
Do you know the window? The amount of frames?
Imo, grabs in this patch make up for jab 1 cancels very well. People really have to be careful about wiffing moves anywhere near Link now, because not only does our grab cover lots of range, but we can rack damage with Dthrow combos and can even use it as a kill setup into Uair. Not even other zoning characters are completely safe, since if they land inside of our grab range while using a projectile or something, depending on how much lag an opponent is stuck in after using the move, we can just grab them out of a shield or spot dodge. And like you basically just said, we can safely punish a lot more wiffed moves from a distance (even while the move's hitboxes are still active) now with no risk of getting hit, because our grab will almost always be able to out-range that said move. Our grab might also be good at covering an opponent's landings. Especially if we find that they have a habit of landing with aerials which we can punish by grabbing them while they're stuck in landing lag, or while they are still in the air.
/ + S2H vs Larry+ Terry + S2Hvs Zenyou+ Bam
Knife8193
to do some combo tests on D-tilt and D-throw seeing as you did such an excellent job with the testing and write-up for the combos last time. Take your time of course.
Scizor still plays? Where's he been lately? Haven't really seen him on the forums.Pfft missed Scizor footage how could I -- if you're going to play Link in teams, do it like this:
Scizor
16 February 2015 Tournament
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59jJ2qWflCg
Scizor
16 February 2015 Tournament
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6bfSZXKK-M
Plus as a treat for DD there's a bomb "shine" here.
An upward bombslide to Dsmash here.
Here's his profile. He last spoke with us about the patch: some of us passed along the info to him as he did not have access to a Wii U at that time. He usually goes to these locals and attends several others things like Fire & Dice that you can see here.
I also spiked an opponent in pools, but they were landing, and I spiked them into the stage. Followed up with an f-smash and took a stock that way.
I don't even need to lab that. The lack of hitstun after bairing and our high-frame grab wouldn't make this possible. Any jab is capable of beating our grab, because no jab takes 12 frames to come out.
Ah, thanks. I haven't played in a while.
Didn't check Ganon, but Falcon definitely cannot interrupt it.
**** me, that was sexy.
Did some testing as well and D-throw -> D-tilt does not work on Falcon, he can jump out of it. Jab or utilt however does work.
If he jumps during the first U-tilt, he gets auto-juggled for free til like 40% and then basically eats a Smash no matter which way he tries to land without a jump. So actually he doesn't want to do that (ideally iirc he would try to shield or jump out of the 2nd U-tilt, I forget exactly), making the mixup into D-tilt legitimate given the low% followups from D-tilt are better. Once you connect the D-tilt, you can get F-air, and then he's in a position where you either have enough time to F-smash him, or you can chase his jump. You're extremely likely to instantly put Falcon offstage with D-throw -> D-tilt setups, which is something worth considering given Link has strong edgeguard options.
It's a mixup, a 50/50, the way you worded it in your post made it sound like it was guaranteed. If the falcon does not double jump and he gets hit with dtilt -> fair, he is going to eat 35% damage. If he does double jump and gets caught with it from an utilt he'll eat atleast 15%, the next utilt he can airdodge and run away. If you expect the airdodge you can instead of another utilt you can fsmash which gives about 35% damage or you could grab him again and dthrow -> usmash for 38% (he can also airdodge the first hit to end up with 35% and he can jump away). To me it sounds better for Falcon to double jump, it gives him more options to get out before going over 35% damage. He might get away with no damage if you try to dtilt him. If he fails getting out he won't eat much more than 35% anyway. He can airdodge or attack to mix up his get away.
Better idea: wait for youtube sharing and save money.
