Link Social Thread

[ITALIAN N1NJA]

I don't think it's a John when Marth's f-smash can connect a hit on either of the lower platforms from center stage. Marth's a dork.

True, but it CAN be avoided. I still can't decide which hit box is bigger. Captain Falcon's "Knee of Justice" from Melee or Marth's F-smash? It's a great move don't get me wrong, I just feel like its one of the moves that can be spammed a bit. I won't lie when I play Captain Falcon I'm all over the C-stick. His C-stick attacks are too good to not use haha.

 

[Fortress]

Marth's F-Smash hitbox > Ridley

 

[Player -0]

Didn't the PMBR remove the tilting from Lylat a couple of versions ago?

 

[Fenrir VII]

Didn't the PMBR remove the tilting from Lylat a couple of versions ago?

Yeah I was vague and stupid. I'm thinking more about the angled thin sides, but yeah Dur.. No tilting.

 

[Fortress]

I meant to call you on that.

 

[ITALIAN N1NJA]

Yeah I was vague and stupid. I'm thinking more about the angled thin sides, but yeah Dur.. No tilting.

I didn't know about that. That's cool. Still. The stage isn't completely flat. Near the left and right ledges it goes at an angle a bit. Apparently the stage is banned where I usually go to play anyways. Still interesting to think of strats in your head.

 

[Fortress]

I dislike Empire Stikes Back Cruise myself, but that's only for Sheik in where I have to be accurate with my recovery or risk recovering under the stage. It's a boon for Link, since he doesn't have to be nearly as careful as other characters due to his tether recovery. Not only that, but it gives him a somewhat easier time overall guarding the ledge, since the opponent has to focus a lot more on being accurate with their recovery.

 

[ITALIAN N1NJA]

When performing the DACUS with Link, how exactly do you cancel the dash attack into the Up-smash? Is the dash attack cancelled by the fast input of (at the start of a dash) C-stick right, then immediately C-stick up? Or do you cancel the dash attack in a method I'm unaware of? I read up on this on Smash wiki and I didn't find the answer I was looking for.

 

[Fortress]

When you initiate the dash attack with down-C, you get a little boost as Link begins to lunge forward. It's at that point (before he's initiated the actual attack) when you want to input your up+Z command. You don't hit up-c-stick, you hit up on the control stick, and tap the Z button. At least, that's the input I use.

Down-C > Control Stick Up+Z

 

[ITALIAN N1NJA]

Down-C > Control Stick Up+Z

Do you mean C-stick Down > Control Stick Up+Z?

 

[Fortress]

Yeah, I just contracted 'C-stick down' to Down-C. Which, I guess I can see how that's confusing.

 

[ITALIAN N1NJA]

Yeah, I just contracted 'C-stick down' to Down-C. Which, I guess I can see how that's confusing.

It's cool. Thank you. It's the fact that Control Stick and C stick have the same abbreviation. Thanks so much for the button inputs. I'll be practicing!

 

[NickRiddle]

I saw you mentioned you hit the C-stick forward for dash-attack.
It's better if you use C-stick down. If you put C-stick forward too early in the dash animation, you will f-smash. That can never happen with C-stick down.

 

[Fortress]

He's true about that.

 

[Player -0]

Was going to say that right might be better than true in that choice of words but I can't find a reason that true wouldn't work besides true typically being used to describe objects while right describes objects and people.

Maybe it's because right means correct while true means not lying/genuine. You wouldn't really say "He's genuine" and then add "about that" afterwards. Unless you were trying to convey that the person is typically sarcastic.

Hmmm.....

It's cool. Thank you. It's the fact that Control Stick and C stick have the same abbreviation. Thanks so much for the button inputs. I'll be practicing!

This may help: Tada! Click here

 

[ITALIAN N1NJA]

Got it down now. This is a pretty useful move for stringing combos if an enemy DIs away from you and up after an attack or it'll throw them off seeing how fast you swoop in. I did notice that while playing. If I hit C-stick forward he'd Fsmash, but I never did C-stick forward while attempting the move. I only did C-stick down, or C-stick at an angle down left or down right. I noticed at a certain angle Link slides much further with the DACUS. I think it's great personally because if you choose to do it down or at an angle you can get two different distances to use with it if it can be done consistently.

 

[Player -0]

Got it down now. This is a pretty useful move for stringing combos if an enemy DIs away from you and up after an attack or it'll throw them off seeing how fast you swoop in. I did notice that while playing. If I hit C-stick forward he'd Fsmash, but I never did C-stick forward while attempting the move. I only did C-stick down, or C-stick at an angle down left or down right. I noticed at a certain angle Link slides much further with the DACUS. I think it's great personally because if you choose to do it down or at an angle you can get two different distances to use with it if it can be done consistently.

Did you read the thread I replied to you about?

I believe the distance is dependent on the timing.

 

[ITALIAN N1NJA]

Did you read the thread I replied to you about?

I believe the distance is dependent on the timing.

I did. I have noticed the distance change depending on my timing of the move. It's been useful though for swooping in on an enemy that is in the air to your left or right. When Link hits you it's like a train, so I'm sure when people notice that move they'll get a little scared at the speed of it.

 

[Player -0]

I did. I have noticed the distance change depending on my timing of the move. It's been useful though for swooping in on an enemy that is in the air to your left or right. When Link hits you it's like a train, so I'm sure when people notice that move they'll get a little scared at the speed of it.

I said this because I figured the C-Stick hitting at a certain angle may have been changing results because the distance of angles may have changed the timing of it.

 

[ITALIAN N1NJA]

I said this because I figured the C-Stick hitting at a certain angle may have been changing results because the distance of angles may have changed the timing of it.

I would assume if you do the input right before the dash attack you'll get more distance(the closer you are to the attack without doing it, the farther the DACUS) will be. It's only a theory I'll test out tomorrow.

 

[Fortress]

Pretty sure the later the input, the longer the slide.

 

[Alex Night]

I think I might be the only one who started thinking of a Christian Zelda song based off the Song of Storms after playing as Link for so long. xD

"Praise the Sword, Praise the Sword! Oh, my mighty, mighty Lord! Every single day! It shall show the way." I don't know what's wrong with me.

 

[Player -0]

So I got bopped by ESAM at a tournament on March 1st, got him early in bracket for P:M Singles and Dubz. I love my luck.

I told him about the tournament too :<

I did take a game off of his Lucas with my Marf though (Was my second tournament, yeaaah). How are you supposed to play the Link MU vs. Samus? It's hard to get in and the missiles are crazy. Samus's Zair is longer and pushes us away and offstage and then I get read for the recovery because I instantly jump/AGT up everytime like a scrub right into Charge Shot :l. I think the only thing we have over her is juggling?

 

[Alex Night]

Samus' missiles are hard hitting, but they can get bopped pretty easily too. Link's sword attacks will cut through missiles because of the priority that missiles have. Link's Boomerang is strong enough to go through the missile and I think he can use Nair to stop one unscathed. The Samus Zair is a problem, but Link's Zair is better overall as it pops opponents upward for a Fair with both hits. It's just that Samus' Zair is better at recovery and controlling space than Link's Clawshot. One particular trick that you can try with Link is AGT downwards if you DI upwards. It really does throw my opponents off when I do that.

In a straight up Projectile fight, Link wins barely because he can stop Charge Shot by just standing in place or walking forward slightly and due to the fact that Link's projectiles can slice through her missiles. Just don't stand there expecting to block a missle with the Hylian Shield. Just keep your spacing well against her and you will force her to fight you up close which isn't a hard thing for Link this time around in Project M.

 

[Player -0]

Like, I couldn't get any projectiles through because it was on PS2 and missiles from high and low. Boomerang kills the missile before coming back directly to you. Samus' Zair is SOOOO long, if she spaces it correctly you can't punish it.

Projectile fighting was hard because we were on PS2 on opposite sides of the stage and pretty much underneath the platforms. It gives Samus an advantage because she nullifies your boomerang (with the missiles), Arrows are too slow and Samus can use the homing missile from the platform, and the platform covers bomb.

Fricking gentlemaning PS2 against ESAM. (Jk, getting outplayed is fun.... FUN!)

 

[Alex Night]

You also have a Zair that you can use against the Missiles. It'll cut through them like butter. While Samus is strong on PS2, the same advantages can be used for Link. Samus isn't exactly getting a free win against Link on a stage with room to fight.

 

[NickRiddle]

So I got bopped by ESAM at a tournament on March 1st, got him early in bracket for P:M Singles and Dubz. I love my luck.

I told him about the tournament too :<

I did take a game off of his Lucas with my Marf though (Was my second tournament, yeaaah). How are you supposed to play the Link MU vs. Samus? It's hard to get in and the missiles are crazy. Samus's Zair is longer and pushes us away and offstage and then I get read for the recovery because I instantly jump/AGT up everytime like a scrub right into Charge Shot :l. I think the only thing we have over her is juggling?

When he comes down in two weeks for Spring Break, I'll record some videos with him.
The Samus MU is... hard to explain... but it's fun when you're good at it.

Nair missles all day is pretty much half of it.

Also, you just taught me he's trying out Lucas. I didn't even know that.

 

[Player -0]

When he comes down in two weeks for Spring Break, I'll record some videos with him.
The Samus MU is... hard to explain... but it's fun when you're good at it.

Nair missles all day is pretty much half of it.

Also, you just taught me he's trying out Lucas. I didn't even know that.

Alright, I also have no MU experience vs. Samus so I was winging it hard.

Also my second tournament but getting ideas for the MU in case I have to do this again.

Yeah his Lucas doesn't seem to very expert on shield pressure yet. I don't remember much from that match, I only remember clutching out a double dunk on the last stocks.

 

[NickRiddle]

Ugh... Got 2nd at a 40 man PM tournament yesterday. Lost to Seibrik (**** Sheik), then he had to leave. Got up to GF, played Colbol. Set 1 I 3-1 his Mario (one game with Bowser, which was hilarious) and then I lost 3-2 set 2. Went 1-1 with his Falco, 1-0 with his Peach, then 0-2 vs. his Fox. Last ht games 4 and 5... And, of course, there were no matches recorded.
I'm never going to have any tournament matches where I'm playing well online... ever...

 

[AeroLink_the_SoulMaster]

My results for these past 3 tournaments:

Rains of Castamere: http://smashboards.com/threads/rains-of-castamere-results-shout-outs.349406/ - 3rd in singles, and 1st in doubles with CT|Tloc|Denti. 03/01/2014

East Texas Fight Club V: http://smashboards.com/threads/march-8th-2014-east-texas-fight-club-v-lindale-tx.349836/ - 4th in singles, and 1st in doubles with Awestin (McBad). 03/08/2014

King of the House: http://smashboards.com/threads/king-of-the-house-results.349887/#post-16460819 - 5th in singles, and 1st in doubles with CT|Tloc|Denti. 03/09/2014

You can check out the vids that I will post in the video thread.

You can like my fanpage at: https://www.facebook.com/AeroLinkSSB4
You can follow me on twitter at: https://twitter.com/AeroLinkSSB4

 

[Alex Night]

Seems like Texas is full of great sword players. I love it. :D

 

[Apollo Ali]

We have been laughing over at Massachussetts that every player needs to learn the counterplay to Marth, Zelda and Link matchups. We've had at least 5 Links over the past three weeks.

 

[Apollo Ali]

By the way, don't you guys miss when n-air used to be able to do hilarious **** like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r14O9mEr6GM#t=1m28s

 

[Fenrir VII]

By the way, don't you guys miss when n-air used to be able to do hilarious **** like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r14O9mEr6GM#t=1m28s

no lie... I miss that Every. Single. Match.

The FH lasting Nair > Nair combo was too legit. Any move that you can cancel with another attack before the attack frames are over is amazing.

 

[Apollo Ali]

SHOUT OUTS TO WOLF FOR GETTING 2ND PLACE AT WEEK 4 OF MASSACHUSETT'S SMASHING GROUNDS WITH LINK. He beat Soft and went 3-2 with Korean DJ.

Really Wolf, I think you coulda taken the match against KDJ if you had just played more patiently. The matches where you won you played super well. You just needed to keep that up.

 

[NickRiddle]

Ugh, why is aerial up-b so easy to crouch cancel.

 

[Alex Night]

Ugh, why is aerial up-b so easy to crouch cancel.

I think it's more to punish those who just use Up B most of the time when really only noobs do that. Link's Grounded Up B is a little worse than Bowser's because at least Bowser can move around to try and avoid the punish if the grounded hit gets blocked. Once Link's Up B is blocked, he is as free as he was for missing a grab in Melee or Brawl. It would be nice to see that move be a little harder to CC.

Please ignore all that as I wasn't paying close enough attention. xD It would be a little nice if he could use his tether during the latter parts of his Up B, but I think everybody would call that broken.

 

[NickRiddle]

Samus's bombs are just good at making me not tether... and then CC > anything.

 

[Player -0]

2nd Hit Zair makes CC'ing people go into falldown I believe. If Samus is bombing the edge cancel it and then Up-B drift to dodge it? Or try to get over it.

 

[NickRiddle]

No, ESAM's bombing right off the ledge after seeing that I'm not recovering high.