Social Link checked the thread. Wow! This is a nice thread!

[Seagull Joe]

I decided to pick up . He's fun!

 

[LightLelouch89]

If this turns out being true...I may actually be okay with it. Surprising people with what you can do with Link is something that I live for. Plus, it helps nullify the sting when I lose to high-tier characters and multiplies the satisfaction of winning against them, so there's that.

It's only when we're pushed to our absolute limits that we Link mains can truly shine!

 

[Zane the pure]

*sigh* oh those halcyon days Deva came to Texas to team with AeroLink. I got to play a lengthy set against one of the best Brawl Links in the US, and I was happy to have gone as evenly as I did. So if you're out there somewhere Deva, you're the tops bro, hella fun matches and I hope you are well.

 

[Seagull Joe]

*sigh* oh those halcyon days Deva came to Texas to team with AeroLink. I got to play a lengthy set against one of the best Brawl Links in the US, and I was happy to have gone as evenly as I did. So if you're out there somewhere Deva, you're the tops bro, hella fun matches and I hope you are well.

was **** in Brawl tho.

 

[Rizen]

^4th or 5th worst character at least this time Link's getting a stats boost.

*sigh* oh those halcyon days Deva came to Texas to team with AeroLink. I got to play a lengthy set against one of the best Brawl Links in the US, and I was happy to have gone as evenly as I did. So if you're out there somewhere Deva, you're the tops bro, hella fun matches and I hope you are well.

I hope Deva comes back too. I never actually got to play Deva
All the hype and doing work figuring out new ATs reminds me of when Brawl first came out. We had a lot of new people, good forum activity, good times

 

[Scabe]

Deva was such a nice dude. He played me on wi-fi with my terrible australian connection. So laggy but fun.

 

[Rizen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0BBGzfw0pQ&list=UUGIY_O-8vW4rfX98KlMkvRg
^This.

 

[Heero Yuy]

Deva is the reason I use blue Link...

And LordXav1er was the other half of that influence as well.

 

[Bomber7]

Link needs moar bombs, imo. Can't get enough of that down special action. I wonder how long it's going to take to break my analog stick from using it too much? I have a cut on GC controller's analog stick from using down special so much. It's legit.

 

[CostLow]

Bombs are so cool that they're the only thing Rosalina can't handle.

 

[FSK]

I decided to pick up . He's fun!

Welcome, that is all.

 

[CostLow]

@ Rizen I'm pretty sure they're even more awesome in SSB4. The point blank safety deal makes them safer to use and adds one more move to your short range game. I mean, no lag bomb toss at point blank is pretty cool, IMO.

Once Wii U comes out, you guys have got to keep us 3DS guys updated too. I know that the controls are easier to use on the wii u, but that won't stop me from trying all the same stuff on the 3DS.

EDIT: I just had a pretty funny match with a Dedede. His very first gordo I hit back with a bomb got stuck to him for the rest of the match and then I ended up taking both of his stocks with the same thing. lol It wasn't a good match on either side but it's all good. I just needed to share my experience with someone.

 

[FSK]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDdQO_ELZOs

its so beautiful.

 

[CostLow]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDdQO_ELZOs

its so beautiful.

Sure, it may require us taking damage but if our recovery was that good without the bomb it would just be broken with it. I don't know how many times now I've been surprised by how well Link recovers now. I stop trying and then suddenly I'm close enough to up-b to the platform, and it just makes me giddy (yes, like a school girl). lol

 

[Ryu_Ken]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDdQO_ELZOs

its so beautiful.

THIS. Every time I get "lighting smashed" to the edge of the screen, this is what saves my life 99.999% of the time. So frickin amazing.

 

[Elessar]

Well, you'd have to add me to get into the fb group. And about my level, yeah , I've played all of them and still do when we can, but that really doesn't mean I'm high level. I mean, that's for others to say, not me.

About your Link, iirc, your problem is that you roll too much. That's the first thing that comes to mind. Sorry.

 

[CostLow]

Well guys, my deployment is about over so I probably won't be quite as free for a while, but at least once a week I'll be here to check-in and make sure my area is clean and up to date. On the flip side, my internet should be better, so I should be able to get some more good FG matches in, and maybe even some friendlies.

I just added you. Like I said in an earlier post, feel free to add me. My friend code is in my profile. I'll edit this post with a list of other Link Social Thread participants' names later.

EDIT: So far, I've added:

@ Elessar
@Jade_Rock55
@HunterNinjaReaperPirate98
@Fastblade5035
@warionumbah2
@DarkDeity15
@ CostLow
@TheBuzzSaw
@ Zane the pure
@supercoolmayo
@MagmarFire

If you don't mind, I think I'm going to take that information to use in the Royal Library thread. I'm trying to create an address book of sorts for Link mains that will include a little information on each member to hopefully help us all get in touch and work together more easily.

 

[CostLow]

Edit: Sorry, I forgot not to double post. I'll just move this comment up to the one above.

 

[Zelkam]

Has anybody else noticed that Link's Hylian shield doesn't block Falco's lasers?

 

[CostLow]

Man, I'm getting my butt kicked by another Link main named Baikou. I'm pretty sure I only got like 1 win to every 5 matches with this guy. Eventually I was just so frustrated I could hardly play so then he started really taken it to me. lol

 

[Bomber7]

Edit, car alarms are one of those ideas that don't work in the real world, are pointless and irritating. This stupid car alarm keeps going off for hours and it's 6AM. I don't know what to do; I don't know who owns the car and I can't kick it to make it stop.

Sounds like you need to go to plan B. Plan Blow****up.

 

[N.T.A.O ChangeOfHeart 死の剣]

was **** in Brawl tho.

So was Wolf and you came along to prove that theory is irrelevant (it can be done with Link and so far no one has shown it to bring him to the absolute limits).

 

[Seagull Joe]

So was Wolf and you came along to prove that theory is irrelevant (it can be done with Link and so far no one has shown it to bring him to the absolute limits).

was the character right under HT. was two-three spots from last. Big difference. That being said, I think has potential for mid tier in this game.

 

[N.T.A.O ChangeOfHeart 死の剣]

was the character right under HT. was two-three spots from last. Big difference. That being said, I think has potential for mid tier in this game.

Yes that's true and I blame it on poor experimentation with that character. The closet to shed some light towards Link was Izaw and Kirinblaze (though there is still to be done and I see it every dawn waking moment I play that game). I don't see tiers only the players but in reality, yes, I as well agree he could make it towards Mid-tier.

 

[FSK]

Yes that's true and I blame it on poor experimentation with that character. The closet to shed some light towards Link was Izaw and Kirinblaze (though there is still to be done and I see it every dawn waking moment I play that game). I don't see tiers only the players but in reality, yes, I as well agree he could make it towards Mid-tier.

You seem to never have heard of Legan?

 

[N.T.A.O ChangeOfHeart 死の剣]

You seem to never have heard of Legan?

I've heard about him, what's your logic to bring his name into this, argument? Once again I'm ranting about Link mains having poor experimentation with that character. I didn't type they don't know what they're doing but still haven't experimented and convinced that he's a good character one bit.

Once again please don't include names, I only used those two names because I've seen things that other Link mains wouldn't dare do and still haven't implemented into their game-play (in other words, they stand out from the bunch of Links).

Anyway, this is a Smash4 thread about Link not Brawl Link. Enough responding back to this.

And since someone mentioned he's terrible in Brawl I just spoke up only and therefore it became a useless argument. Stop making excuses and get to work; because I don't blame the character but the players (no details). Long live Brawl~

 

[Naroghin]

Tough words but I can definitely agree. Of course we will be defeated if we first defeat ourselves before pouring time and creativity into our expression with the character. Don't like the tier list? Do something about it.

 

[N.T.A.O ChangeOfHeart 死の剣]

Sigh just don't respond back to this but alright this continues.

I'm sure people dislike me or hate me for that and as well pug both their ears with both their fingers and "lalalala I can't hear you" or just ignore this completely which makes more sense and is relevant of course.

Link players have not experimented completely (nor have they even made it to 50%). And I'm 100% sure because I get compliments about how Godly mine is or wow how are you doing that. Of course that is not my alternative to bring to the thread. I'm just giving an example that I'm the best Link that anyone has brawled in the Arena (and even outside of the Arena) Heck, I'll type and some of course will see this as "shots fired" if that's how they want to view this statement by someone else that posted this about my Link. "ur link is so good coh i see it better than scizors or izaws" do I care?

No but praise is always nice in once in a while. So, I'm sure some will type why care what a Wi-Fi player types, well, If you go to the Arena and ask if is Link bad, the first thing they will type is use me as a prime example that he is not bad and go brawl COH (I guarantee it). Where has anyone besides Izaw (who isn't American type that and especially on Wi-Fi where it's nearly impossible to actually do stuff but play the defensive style all day long.

My point? My point is if another Link played the same people (I guarantee they wouldn't think the same, they would just type nice Link and such). But what I did was push him far and in Wi-Fi and in the eyes of how others see him. And Wi-Fi is true hell to keep up and make sure your tricks and projectile set-ups/strings are all in full effect.

Videos will be out soon hopefully I just need to finish my first semester in college then I'll get started in such.

You bet I will do something about it and thanks for the support man (and actually understanding). Hopefully others think the same way or in my educated guess they will not. Or a better thing ignore this and continue on from there. Thanks.

 

[Seagull Joe]

Yes that's true and I blame it on poor experimentation with that character. The closet to shed some light towards Link was Izaw and Kirinblaze (though there is still to be done and I see it every dawn waking moment I play that game). I don't see tiers only the players but in reality, yes, I as well agree he could make it towards Mid-tier.

No. Tiers are real. Players can only take some characters so far. in brawl was ****. I beat Kirin easily. Izaw was never amazing. The best was Mr. R.

 

[Naroghin]

...Videos will be out soon hopefully I just need to finish my first semester in college then I'll get started in such.

You bet I will do something about it and thanks for the support man (and actually understanding). Hopefully others think the same way or in my educated guess they will not. Or a better thing ignore this and continue on from there. Thanks.

Yeah man, I respect you for working to keep Brawl Link alive (and Brawl in general, for that matter), just remember that we're all in this together and kind encouragement is truly what will help the community grow and thrive. I'm not knocking your individuality or your aggressive style by any means, I just mean the community is important because without it you have no one to play with.

I'm looking forward to watching your vids, and maybe if the technical aspect of Sm4sh develops enough I can look forward to getting destroyed in dittos further down the line! But for now let's put this discussion to rest and take from it that Link can do anything, and that we can do anything with him if we but put in the work. Tiers are generally reliable and testable, but they are and will always be an indirect quantification of mechanics and skill.

Now back to Smash4 general Link stuff maybe???

 

[N.T.A.O ChangeOfHeart 死の剣]

No. Tiers are real. Players can only take some characters so far. in brawl was ****. I beat Kirin easily. Izaw was never amazing. The best was Mr. R.

He lost to you because he camped you (I saw it) he didn't feel comfortable to approach without projectile play (and that's the bane of almost every Link), they use projectiles to approach and as well their only resort to approach in-general.

Mr.R was aggressive and even with his performance I saw way more stuff that could of been done better (of course that will be buried with me only).

See, that's your view of Link other's like me do not feel that way whatsoever. Anyway it's done, please ignore the rest and get on with this thread. Thank you.

 

[Rizen]

Seagull's a top player and most Link players will tell you the same thing; Link was trash in Brawl. He deserved a 4th or 5th worst place on the tier list.
This is why I ignored Change of Heart a long time ago on the Brawl Link forums (had to show ignored posts to see what people were responding to). There's always someone who thinks they know better than the people who played Link for years. I've used all Link in live tourneys with 40 people getting 17th and going all Link in at least 12 live tourneys, beating PRed players and also wifi events like getting 25th of 90, plus experimenting with metagame development (lol shield dash sliding but spot dodge slide to Dsmash or jab is something that came of it I use occasionally), helping new Links, critiquing vids and running the forums; I did my part to rep Link, like so many of the other hard-core Link mains.
We've had tourney placing Link mains experimenting with every AT, frame data, strat, etc for years. Especially on AiB, we had a metagame thread spanning hundreds of pages, Blubba found things like footstool bombing, FSK figured out how to go under FD with Link, Sasook wrote about how to go offstage for intercepting, we had DI guides about why Dair works for top launches, we checked out DTilt spike potential with Link facing backwards for the body spike hit bubble, I wrote up a revised guide
http://smashboards.com/threads/unbreakable-spirit-using-link-in-brawl.325062/
We had a thread about tourney results with Link
http://nintendodojo.com/forum/topic.aspx?id=118766
A gauntlet thread, wifi tournaments for Links, crow had frame data, Fox Is Openly Deceptive had a full AT thread
http://smashboards.com/threads/secr...ng-thread-complete-at-list-and-combos.277706/
We were THE most active character forum on AiB. Link mains invented the saying 'do work'.

@ Change of Heart, you're Link is not godly, you play scrubs. You say stuff like AirJ's Yoshi is better than Raptor's
http://smashboards.com/threads/hey-...rent-2013-videos.275902/page-14#post-16517815
That guy didn't know how to punish or chain grab. You take a lot of risks that only work in laggy wifi or vs scrubs. You think DACUS is a good approach. You got 3 stocked when I was playing good for your reckless style
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HKHAe7Mvd0
It's wifi, it didn't matter but you sent a huge chain of PMs telling me how scrubby I was.

You could be good but you'd rather inflate your ego and insult everyone who's played Link for years than learn. You pulled the same c*** on the Brawl Yoshi forums too.

PS Mr.R is amazing.

 

[Zane the pure]

In case you guys didn't know this yet, because of Link's Down-B throw canceling landing lag, it can also combo break (in much the same way as rush for Megaman)
Have a bomb in hand when you get hit, and toss the bomb with down-B to cancel the hitstun of most moves.
I wish I could capture 3DS footage, but it totally works.

 

[N.T.A.O ChangeOfHeart 死の剣]

This guy imo. Your Link is laughable man you have no balance whatsoever and you call mine scrubby. Actually no, your Link is fine, I'll be the bigger man here.

Don't get envious because people see me in a different perceptive of a view and have no idea what a Rizen is.

I will bet you money you will lose to Airjay (and you've lost to some Yoshi guy that had no structure in his game-play whatsoever).

Also he knows how to do everything now even DR he's super meaty if you don't believe me go ahead and find out for yourself (don't blame the lag now because I beat him almost every-time and having lost at all when I choose Ike) therefore you should do better, because you're a veteran, right? Smh I hope so.

What about Raptor? Why do I care about other Yoshis? I hope you know Airjay has beaten Raptor more than he did. And Airjay wasn't um, very structure based I wouldn't be surprised if he got molded not just beat.

Sigh, I'll be real clear with you, okay? Here goes, your, connection is terrible. Even brawling some Japanese players through would be better than what you have man.

And oh that's cute you three stocked me? Guess what? I did the same thing, and I was wreck-less and it was more than once, but you blamed you're sick, ha ha! This guy is just nvm. You don't know how I play (your connection sure wont show you how I play that's for sure).

It's Wi-Fi exactly (some things don't work offline which I'm WELL aware of that).
Dude you're weird, I'm only suggesting you all quit blaming this and that because I seem to be doing fine and experiment way better. And that PM was just me being salty my apologies and that was before I truly changed and see nothing or acknowledge nothing, N.T.A.O

Funny thing is the Arena has played a bunch of Links and guess what? I'm the best Link and they even wrote hands down. Oh, and I on a best player List on Aib and I'm first over Lnaid, Mr.Rooster, X, and lastly Waldo imo.

Did I type you are all terrible? No, I'm just implying you haven't experimented thoroughly thoroughly. Don't re-word the wording to sound like I'm against anyone, no.

See, you can place well with him and your Link needs a lot of work from what I'm seeing if you applied more stuff, you'd do even more better (and I'm 110% sure).

PS. I beat a good Ice climbers that no Link has done yet (not even on Wi-Fi (unless it's a CPU Ice climber and that's still annoying), how did I do it? Video will be out soon.

Once again you keep adding meanings that never existed in my comments in the first place. I never typed anything towards your logic with him is incorrect (but it's not 100% correct) he can be a tier higher even your guy Joe believes so as well.

And Mr.R got demolished by a Wi-Fi Falco that didn't even laser once. He's a good link and only that.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m8dCPK4_-6M

I hope you drop this already and you think I care that you ignored me? You're not important for me to find why and I don't care. Please end the not suppose to be dysfunctional argument/conversation. Thanks.

 

[Rizen]

Edit, I'm not even going to dignify CoH with a response. This is spamming the forums. Back to ignoring.

 

[N.T.A.O ChangeOfHeart 死の剣]

No, you just assume things which is what you're a true pro at. Imo, you actually uploaded your matches (you're a sad dude man).
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oA02qK_bHXE <----- Hilarious just hilarious

And no one takes you seriously man, I asked a lot of people about you and they all typed "he free lmfao" so, you sure impressed a lot with your veteran Link.

And no worries, I'm upload our matches as well since you want to do that. It will show me three stocking you and at the same time entertaining. Or, you just be the bigger person and remove it. Your choice, I also like how you didn't even bother to save the other ones where you got demolished at three stocked (so I wonder who the true salty person is). Please for once in your life (be the bigger man). It's not hard to do either.

 

[N.T.A.O ChangeOfHeart 死の剣]

Edit, I'm not even going to dignify CoH with a response. This is spamming the forums. Back to ignoring.

Be the bigger man, I'm done.

 

[Zane the pure]

If Link has a hitstun canceling ability, it can constitute as a combo breaker no? Even if the bomb doesn't hit, the second the throw animation is done Link is back to neutral frames. I would recommend this against characters Link Sheik who'd normally flowchart F-air you across the stage. Maybe it'd help combat low% strings like Falcon U-Airs etc.

I was able to set a fairly nice counter situation with it. I was on FG against a (who actually knew H2P) and he had me in an early jab flurry. The problem is Mac's jabs are so fast that breaking the hitstun just get's interrupted by another jab, so I DI up&away long enough to find an opening in the flurry, DI down&away and Down-B bombthrow breaking the jab combo, and (since Bombthrow autocancels) caught him with a SH F-air and sealed the match with the second hit.

 

[Rizen]

If Link has a hitstun canceling ability, it can constitute as a combo breaker no? Even if the bomb doesn't hit, the second the throw animation is done Link is back to neutral frames. I would recommend this against characters Link Sheik who'd normally flowchart F-air you across the stage. Maybe it'd help combat low% strings like Falcon U-Airs etc.

Thread title changed for this
If you guys have thread title suggestions, post them and I'll use them if they get a lot of likes.

 

[FSK]

Smashboards needs a 'dislike' button for posts like those from changofheart. They're all like "hey guys this is off topic and because of this no-one is allowed to reply to my post which is nothing less than super convenient for me because I'm about to either insult or upset you. (long post of painfully wrong dribble) k thanks now no-one reply. I am the bigger man."

Only thing he did was make himself look like a complete moron.

I was able to set a fairly nice counter situation with it. I was on FG against a (who actually knew H2P) and he had me in an early jab flurry. The problem is Mac's jabs are so fast that breaking the hitstun just get's interrupted by another jab, so I DI up&away long enough to find an opening in the flurry, DI down&away and Down-B bombthrow breaking the jab combo, and (since Bombthrow autocancels) caught him with a SH F-air and sealed the match with the second hit.

I've been able to get out of multihit jabs by mashing down-b. It basically means as long as Link has a bomb its not safe for the opponent to do anything.