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Let's face it, Brawl = Next Mario Party, huge dissapointment
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YouDigress
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I'm amazed you have all failed to respond to my brilliant use of haiku to basically sum up the main points in the thread.
I'm going back to character forums.
I'm going back to character forums.
Fletch
Smash Master
Well said. Unfortunately, we are going to be stuck playing Brawl for a while, but maybe it will turn into the "beautiful mistake" Melee was.
Gindler
Smash Champion
Oh boo hoo, they took out wavedashing so I have to run now. that's the only reason you think they game is slowed down, you forgot that you could run, and according to your fox picture you're probably a fox main and are just soar that they had to make him less ridiculous.
All i can recommend is that you play it, deal with the changes, get better, and forget about the melee GLITCHES that so many people had to take advantage of.
PS: I love how all the flaws this guy listed are things that were wrong with melee...the wavedashing glitch, and the super obvious tiers that were present.
All i can recommend is that you play it, deal with the changes, get better, and forget about the melee GLITCHES that so many people had to take advantage of.
PS: I love how all the flaws this guy listed are things that were wrong with melee...the wavedashing glitch, and the super obvious tiers that were present.
pirkid
Smash Lord
This is the biggest and most repetitive flame thread ever.
You guys are all using the same arguments in different words. There's no point yelling.
You guys are all using the same arguments in different words. There's no point yelling.
You are the epitome of a typical brawl newbie. You are why melee players hate the brawl scene. Don't tell US why we "think" the game is slowed down. There is MUCH more than wavedashing taken out, and we dont "think" the game is slowed down. The game IS slowed down. Period.
"Melee GLITCHES" are not the only thing we took advantage of, and they removed many simple techs that were NOT glitches.
The super obvious tiers? Do you think brawl is not going to have such super obvious tiers? WRONG. Metaknight is already OBVIOUSLY ridiculous, winning the majority of tournaments thus far. With the game slowed so much and very little UNIVERSAL techs to abuse - we're left to abuse the techs of individual characters that were overlooked. These characters will by far stand out as the best characters and tiers will be just as present - if not more - in brawl than they were in melee.
Get yourself in check, newbie, you have a lot of learning to do if you even want to be decent at brawl. Mentality is key, and if you are one of those newbies against "breaking the game" you aren't going anywhere.
Fletch
Smash Master
Even if wavedashing was a glitch, who cares, it made the game infinitely better and competitive. And as far as "super obvious tiers", I hope you are kidding, Brawl is already showing to be quite imbalanced, Marth is going to absolutely **** in this game along with a select few other characters.
And the game is not slower because of the loss of WDing (which I could do without), it's slower due to the new physics, loss of l-cancel, and no new techs to replaces these... Basically, it's a downgrade of Melee thus far.
CivicSmash
Smash Apprentice
Brawl is a button mashing kiddy fest. It is so bad. The thing that I hate most of all is how you cant fall faster by pressing down in the air. Especially when I'm playing with Falcon. I will probably be selling it in a week or two, while I can still get an okay amount of money for it. Anyone who likes this game sucks at Melee.
As a supporter of melee and a pessimist of brawl, i request this post be completely ignored by everyone in an attempt to somewhat save our names. This post is just as bad as the brawl newbies posts, and i'm hoping it's just a sarcastic troll v.v
28 pages of flames? Yikes.
I skipped over 27 of them. It was just too much bickering for me to stand, so sorry for any redundancies in my post.
I was going to make a well-thought out, non-partisan post (honest, I just cleared it out of the reply box) but I changed my mind. Brawl IS less competitive in design by the very reasons it's different from melee -- it's much harder to die without getting blasted off the screen, there are way fewer guaranteed combos/finishers, and most defensive positions are designed to allow escape if the escapee uses the proper choice and a little timing.
Brawl will be competitive, but only because theres a massive smash community that wants it to be competitive. And I'm not going to comment on depth, because it's a stupid argument. Ultimately, it's your call whether you think you'll have fun being part of that community.
I've similar impressions to you, though.
I skipped over 27 of them. It was just too much bickering for me to stand, so sorry for any redundancies in my post.
I was going to make a well-thought out, non-partisan post (honest, I just cleared it out of the reply box) but I changed my mind. Brawl IS less competitive in design by the very reasons it's different from melee -- it's much harder to die without getting blasted off the screen, there are way fewer guaranteed combos/finishers, and most defensive positions are designed to allow escape if the escapee uses the proper choice and a little timing.
Brawl will be competitive, but only because theres a massive smash community that wants it to be competitive. And I'm not going to comment on depth, because it's a stupid argument. Ultimately, it's your call whether you think you'll have fun being part of that community.
I've similar impressions to you, though.
thumbswayup
Smash Master
can't we all just go back to melee? I WANT TO PLAY MELEE FOREVER.
I didnt read any of the posts except the first and i must say that this topic creator doesnt know what he is talking about.
First of all, I've played melee for over 4 years, i was hoping brawl wouldnt feel the same as melee. Im thankful that brawl feels new and fresh; in other words, different from melee.
OK about competitive play... BRAWL has it. Trust me it does... It takes time to get used to, but it is there! Im glad all the characters are balanced out so we dont have the same top characters (Fox, falco) fighting each other in every match.
Did u even consider playing the **** game enough to notice that the competitive game is at a whole new level? Dodging in the air seems to be a huge role in competitive play even more than it ever was in melee.
Oh and btw i was a competitive player in melee as well and really... Brawl is a new step to over take. I cant wait to get to competitive levels in this game ^^
First of all, I've played melee for over 4 years, i was hoping brawl wouldnt feel the same as melee. Im thankful that brawl feels new and fresh; in other words, different from melee.
OK about competitive play... BRAWL has it. Trust me it does... It takes time to get used to, but it is there! Im glad all the characters are balanced out so we dont have the same top characters (Fox, falco) fighting each other in every match.
Did u even consider playing the **** game enough to notice that the competitive game is at a whole new level? Dodging in the air seems to be a huge role in competitive play even more than it ever was in melee.
Oh and btw i was a competitive player in melee as well and really... Brawl is a new step to over take. I cant wait to get to competitive levels in this game ^^
WR3K
Smash Ace
SSB is not the first game to have these arguements, more like EVERY competitive game ever.
brawl haters, i invite you to respond against this perspective:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=151309
brawl haters, i invite you to respond against this perspective:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=151309
ShadowLink84
Smash Hero
I siagree about wavedashing. There weren't many characters that could make use of wavedashing in their competitively gameplay well enough to be of use.
i.e. Zelda whose wavedashes were very small.
I do not believe L canceling is a loss either because many of the aerials in this game have had their lag reduced. NOt ot say all of them reduced since Link's and Uair are still laggy ubut that it isn't as great a loss as it is made out to be.
Bajef8
Smash Ace
um, buddy...........melee was broken. it had some pretty bad character balance, I mean come on.
Fletch
Smash Master
Tell that to Luigis, ICs, Mewtwos, or basically tons of other characters that need WDing to be competitive. Truth be told, WDing really helped out a ton of characters, especially a lot of the lower tiers, and few characters were an exception to this (I might give you Zelda, but I use WD with her along with the few others that ever play her).
Radical Dreamer
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Hmm...Fox, Falco, Sheik, Marth, Captain Falcon, Ice Climbers, Samus, Dr. Mario, Mario, Ganondorf, Luigi, Roy, Young Link, Donkey Kong, Pikachu, Pichu, Game and Watch, Mewtwo.
Define many.
Shai Hulud
Smash Lord
Except you can only run in one direction now. Oh, and you randomly fall on your ***. Awesome.
Banjodorf
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Sigh... this thread is still here? Omg. People, the TC is an obvious troll and/or an idiot who cant accept change. Such changes as these happen in every fighting game sequel. You liked Melee BEFORE we knew about WDing correct?
Well, heres what I suggest to you. Either learn to accept change, or GTFO my forums. I dont want to come in here any other day and see "Omg Brawl ftl, lets play melee forever!" at the top of the boards. If you dislike Brawl so very much, you might as WELL leave, because those of us who love the game for what it is, will be here posting, rubbing it in your trolling faces.
Brawl4Life.
GigabyteThe2nd
Smash Rookie
And this, my friends, is an example of why people hate competitive Smash players so much.
Some of you could benefit from OP. You know who you are.
Some of you could benefit from OP. You know who you are.
DaisukeNiwa
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Melee was an awesome game; played it when it first came out, and played it up until the release date of Brawl.
Give Brawl a chance, it's not fair comparing a game you've played for years to a game you've been playing for a couple of days (a month and so for those who played the Japanese Brawl).
It's like a longtime relationship to a girl. You've broken up with her and gotten another, and if you keep comparing her to the last girl, you'll just end up being miserable and never be satisfied.
Give Brawl a chance, it's not fair comparing a game you've played for years to a game you've been playing for a couple of days (a month and so for those who played the Japanese Brawl).
It's like a longtime relationship to a girl. You've broken up with her and gotten another, and if you keep comparing her to the last girl, you'll just end up being miserable and never be satisfied.
Fletch
Smash Master
I like how you quoted me, then did not address a single thing I said. But anyways, the OP might just be a troll looking for a response, but it doesn't change the fact that he brings up good points. And I'm pretty sure you shouldn't be telling people to "GTFO" "your" forums, as anyone can be a member here, and the people you are telling that to have been here quite a bit longer than you.
The_Trap
Smash Cadet
ITT: epic troll
cheifrocka
Smash Apprentice
I'm .. just a caveman. Your character balance and lack of similar techs frighten and confuse me ...
InvincibleAgent
Smash Lord
I don't think fall speed is too important. Brawl feels just like Melee to me.
Radical Dreamer
Smash Ace
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LOL, what character balance? Sonic, Ganondorf and Captain Falcon won't be winning any Brawl tournaments. Marth and Toon Link will.
A New England Winter
Smash Lord
Sonic might.
mark.
Smash Journeyman
give it time.
its not like people started wavedashing the day they got melee
its not like people started wavedashing the day they got melee
susu_atari
Smash Ace
Is this spam? This seems like spam.
I love my Brawl...
I love my Brawl...
Toadster5
Smash Journeyman
Because competition is fun.
streetballa2
Smash Rookie
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ur an idiot if u really feel this way go hide in a cave n play ur melee n leave every1 alone
Michael Blaine
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CluelessBTD
Smash Ace
i don't feel like i can ever enjoy Brawl as much as I enjoyed Melee. It just seems liked the developers couldn't agree with each other on some things. It is like a book that has no spine. The pages are readable, but they slide around annoyingly.
ObeseNightmare
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I'm going to have to agree with this one, all that L-canceling and whatnot made it less fun. But really, this has to be the best game I have ever played in my lifetime... Oh well, everyone has their own opinions. Thank you OP for not forcing your opinion on me.
(I feel like CoD is turing into a daycare center with all the little kids)
Deft
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grr, I hate this stupid "Brawl isn't as competitive" argument. what, when you play it do you try to lose as opposed to trying to win? when a match is over it still says who won, therefore I'd say its competitive.
also 1v1's no items are really fun now, since I don't have to think about doing a thousand shffl's a second anymore.
also 1v1's no items are really fun now, since I don't have to think about doing a thousand shffl's a second anymore.
Ellio 2 b
Smash Apprentice
Very well said. Who cares what his opinion is? Brawl is the best game ive ever played. GTFO Hippochinfat.
LinkNSnake4Main
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-The game is so slow now that its almost a joke
Ever heard of Smash64?
Best game ever? Period.
Also, You haven't played much, because this is one of the most insanely chaotic games I've ever played.
-Skill components have been removed (Wavedashing, L-Cancelling, etc.)
...And new ones CAN'T be found?
Says who?
-All the players have been downgraded and Nintendo didn't want anyone to dominate.
Ever heard of a guy named MARTH?
-You grab the edge practically every time, its like magnetic almost
Theres your advanced technique. Deal with it. Use it in a strategy some how.
-Great combo's = gone because of slow free fall
Err....
Slow Free Fall = Combo's Ahoy. Seriously. It may suck if YOUR the one falling, but if your not, you can get some SERIOUS aerials off.
-You can airdodge continuously
Advanced Technique. GGPWN.
-Disastrous and awkward load times
What game are you playing?
The WiFi has a [Close to] One Minute load time, SO WHAT?
It's no different than Joining a server on an FPS, it's just it has a timer there to make it seem longer!!
Ever heard of Smash64?
Best game ever? Period.
Also, You haven't played much, because this is one of the most insanely chaotic games I've ever played.
-Skill components have been removed (Wavedashing, L-Cancelling, etc.)
...And new ones CAN'T be found?
Says who?
-All the players have been downgraded and Nintendo didn't want anyone to dominate.
Ever heard of a guy named MARTH?
-You grab the edge practically every time, its like magnetic almost
Theres your advanced technique. Deal with it. Use it in a strategy some how.
-Great combo's = gone because of slow free fall
Err....
Slow Free Fall = Combo's Ahoy. Seriously. It may suck if YOUR the one falling, but if your not, you can get some SERIOUS aerials off.
-You can airdodge continuously
Advanced Technique. GGPWN.
-Disastrous and awkward load times
What game are you playing?
The WiFi has a [Close to] One Minute load time, SO WHAT?
It's no different than Joining a server on an FPS, it's just it has a timer there to make it seem longer!!
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