The inactivity in this game is astounding. I know some had V/LA due to the tournament that was the weekend but a majority of the players in this game have been here and just not posting which is annoying. I was expecting to come back to something from someone but all I get is a gif from Ryker? That's terrible.
@Mod: Mass Prod everyone not declared V/LA, please and thanks.
Excuse me for a second but I am going to be blunt on a few little key points. I am going to be quoting things as I re-read because it has been a long time since I even looked into this game. This game is beginning to turn out what usually happens when I am town and someone incorrectly thinks I am scum. Snowball/domino effect where people must think I am scum because someone else has called me scum and I am not obv-town. I'm busy with life, apologies for that but mafia isn't getting my attention when it's mid-term week and I had a final due already with a show going on. Enough johns though. Getting to my re-read.
J said:
This game is either going to be really fun to replace into....or extremely hellish.
So true.
Pg 4-5
Krys is reading with newbie town intent of trying to figure out RF's random FoS' on half the cast.
Soup vs. Delita was reading weird. Got a connection case of Raz+Soup forming if either were to flip scum. Reason being is Raz' insistence to help Soup out instead of letting him answer his own question there from Delita. Reminds me of what Raz did to me in Gova's game when Soup was attacking me. Reads as a little insincere from Raz' part and just trying to white-knight Soup for a buddy later on which is something Raz does try to do as scum.
Reason I say this reads as insincere is because I dislike how Raz calls Delita on all this stuff and says that he is "deliberately trying to cast suspicion on Soup." but not back it up with a vote or anything even though it is int he early phase of the game.
This is also a reason why Soup can still be town if Raziek is scum. However if Soup is scum, Raz can be scum. Don't see if Raz flips town it affecting Soup much. The connection lies more in Raz than in Soup.
Liking KevinM for his vote on Raziek
RainbowFingers said:
We had some comments
let me remember
Ah right. Weird thing number one. Adumb, I thought you LOVED RVS, why did you want to leave it so soon?
Soup, Ryker is without internet. Even then, you played enough with him to know that he can be that super-town guy as soon as he comes back and he's town. Lynching him early is foolish. Ryker is a player good enough to decide how easy he is to read.
Delita's berating of Soup is off, I agree there with Raz.
Still think UTD wagon is pri legit. Scummiest player alive, imo.
Kryst, who's scum? Do you see my UTD suspicion?
Ran, what's interesting/worth looking at?
Soup, why policy Ryker but not Gova?
Hating RainbowFingers for this post. The way he is white-knighting Ryker and trying to out-right buddy him without him even posting. "Ryker is such a good player guys, don't consider lynching him." what the heck is this garbage? At the very instance of joking about QL'ing Ryker, Rainbow comes to his defense. Then he says "Agree with Raz" without even going into why Delita's berating is off. It looks more like RF is looking for an out to say "Oh, the train seems to be heading this way so I will hop on the popular thought."
Then he asks a bunch of pointless questions. The reason I say they are pointless is that they never follow up on it. I don't like also the insistency of protecting Ryker and trying to throw Gova under the bus.
Early game dislike of RF. If I was in the game at this time, RF would be my target.
FoS: RainbowFingers
Soup said:
Mafia isn't black and white. You're looking at this like I came into this thread, posted something for no reason, and then tried to coast off it. That's wrong. I posted it because I am looking for people to respond to it. I appreciate the analytical criticism.
Highly dislike armchair Soup.
Pgs 6-7
On second glance, Kantrip's big post screams of salty town who is OMGUS'ing his attacker after thinking about his play becoming a similar cycle throughout the rest of the game where he just continues to OMGUS people who attack him.
MSF is being incredibly null at the beginning of the game because their posts do not lean either way in terms of scummy vs. towny.
LAK posting a bunch of null-ish posts that lean townier than scummier. Ryker comes in and votes him. Seems in poor taste.
RainbowFingers said:
mfw I come in on Gova not giving content and Delita accepting a drawn-out discussion on mafia theory. Seriously? Anyway, I'll leave some notes and tell BSL to post.
Why did Rainbow come in to just say this? It doesn't make sense that he chose to isolate Gova because of his inactivity. The reason he does this is because Gova is being talked about (and the lynch line on gova is beginning to spearhead with Delita and Ryker is white-knighting him) so RF just pops his head in and comments on something that seems relevant and dips. Hypocritical that RF comes in to talk about no content when that's all this slot has been.
Ryker removes his vote from LAK to UTD...weak reasons as stated here.
Ryker said:
Vote UTDZack
His reads post is weak. I don't think any of them have an identifiable basis which makes them easy to segue out of and laaaaaaaame. Make him fix it, imo.
He calls for people to "make him fix it" but doesn't do much himself to make it happen. Basically all bark, no bite. Yeah he votes him, but what is one vote going to do. And why UTD over players like RF and him holding a contradictory stance on Gova? Rubs off.
Pg 8-9
Now MSF begins tunneling Kanty. Now I seriously feel bad for him when it's combined with walls from Delita and Soup.
Speaking of which, this just hit me from pg 7. He says "Kanty is my #1 lynch-pick."
Ryker said:
As of right now, you're my number one lynch option.
Yet he votes UTDZac instead for bogus reasons and doesn't even mention Kanty at all. He didn't change his vote either when he was talking about Kanty being his #1 lynch-pick. If Kanty
was such a strong scum-read, why not vote him or do anything to pursue that scum-read? Instead Ryker cops-out and goes for an inactive/limited poster. Then when UTD gives him what he wanted, he ignores him completely.
This is where my Ryker scum-read stems from. He is being bogus in his reads and saying/doing actions that are *** backwards.
FoS: Ryker
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Does Inferno name-search into this game only? Common occurence begins to happen when Kevin/Ryker say his name in the thread, he pops up to say he is busy and will post but no show.
Kanty throws his vote on UTD to add more steam to the opposing wagon that isn't his. Does this again for Gova later on in the game.
Raz comes in and votes Delita for shallow reasons even after Delita's unvote he is screaming that Delita should understand what Kanty is saying but doesn't do much for it.
Another curious post by Ryker. He says to cop Raz. Since when was Raziek even on Ryker's radar? Not at all. He doesn't say to cop UTD or Kanty (who has remained to not be in his posts anymore) but says to cop Raziek for no known reason.
Laughed pretty hard at LAK's post. Completely forgot about the chainsaw picture but it is 100% accurate to what he is doing this game. Delita attacks Soup, Raz chainsaws him. Delita attacks Kantrip, Raz chainsaws him. Yet this post comes along.
Raziek said:
I've done that once already to Soup.
Seeing **** I disagree with is a common thing that moves me to post, take a side, and is how I tend to form reads. If I take someone's side and it starts to feel wrong, that's a good indicator for me to re-evaluate my read on the slot.
Yes, it is a chainsaw defense. Am I scum for it, LAK?
Which is very curious. Raziek owns up to the chainsawing thing. However, I wouldn't mind this post if it wasn't for the final question of asking if he is scum for it. That last sentence is grimy because why should it matter? Seems more like he has an intent for asking that question that doesn't seem good to me. (bad intent=scummy intent in this situation). This post just makes me feel mixed vibes.
Then Ryker comes to Raziek's defense telling LAK to drop dead and "awarding a point" to Raziek just because. Even though Ryker just said to cop Raz....wgat?
Raziek unvotes Delita because of OS posting....again...wgat? He has had dislike of Delita for a long time, but one post from him makes him drop it instantaneously? He also never posted his "list of grievances" against Delita anyways.
Pgs 10-11
Ryker continues to just get into a mafia theory battle with Delita. His content is minimal and seeming pretty fake and doesn't hold much in terms of scum-hunting.
Inferno's first "real" post. Eh, is all the words I can find at this hour. It's pretty worthless.
KevinM is a town-read. Still feeling that skim-read I had earlier holding true and Ryker's later wanting to lynch KevinM seems even worse now.
Soup is still a damn enigma, leaning town.
LAK's vote on KevinM is terrible. Not scummy, just terrible.
I am just skimming Kanty's posts at this point. I don't have the drive to read through them when they are all just the same and read as town to me. Kanty is probably one of my stronger town-reads at this point. Plus his reads are pointless to me because he calls those who thinks he is town = town. And those who thinks he is scum = scum.
Ryker said:
May vote Kantrip after reading him. I have noticed that I have no opinion on him despite having the material to obtain one. I usually just skim his posts and get distracted arguing with Delita.
This is a pure lie based on what he said earlier. Ryker isn't even reading his own posts at this rate because he just seems to be skimming and forgetting his own stances.
Continuing on...does Ryker make any posts that don't argue with Delita? Most of the argument does not even revolve around players but more around theory. Ugh, frustrating.
Pg 12-13
Raziek's read-post makes me feel infinitely better about his slot. His reads are a little shallow and rely a bit on gut but nothing too too wrong with that. I would love for him to explain things a bit more. I also see one of my biggest qualms (his Delita read) fixed much clearer.
Nothing more to comment on these two pages. Besides Gova's claim which was towny I guess but the fact is, he could have been lying and the thing is, it was the most logicial notion to lynch him D1 because mafia would not have touched him and there were better targets for the vig to go after. I stand by my decision to have lynched him yesterDay because he would have just been a problem to deal with later on.
Pgs 14-15
MSF's insistence on Kanty is annoying me because I don't get the tunnel vision. Well I do considering it is Ranmaru but he literally is beating a dead horse at this time.
Everytime Inferno posts, it's just Eh. I mean nothing in his posts hold weight and I am more likely leaning towards letting him go. Nothing in his posts bring anything new to the table and when he does make a stance it just is that. It doesn't do much. He OMGUS's KevinM and that's the most notable thing I can think of even while reading his posts in front of me.
Someone brought up RF again. Just read Xonar's post saying he wants to replace out. Annoying and reminds me of Ryker mafia in terms of activity followed by none at all then him "trying to recover" from his inactivity. Play is different though and a different Xonar I have never seen. Still dislike for him not being here but being active everywhere else.
I like Krys' big reads post. Finally something to bite onto and get some views from him on. Weak town-read from earlier slowly becoming more solid.
Pg 16-20
Ryker, activity police.
MSF's big case on Kanty. Just him tunneling him more and I agreed to based on my vibes on Kanty just being Knee-jerk scum which in hindsight isn't true but more true to the fact that MSF is just reaching a lot in that case but does it make either scum? Nope. Well, not in my book at least.
Ryker posts saying I have no stances. Cool story broskii. Just proving that you haven't read at all and making yourself look even sillier. Then he says because I want to lynch Gova based on logics/his claim = scum J. Ryker doesn't stick to his reads long at all. (Kanty, KevinM, Delita, Raz) I had reads posted, but Ryker didn't read them which makes his "biggest" point on me terribad.
pgs 21-24
RainbowFingers said:
I actually don't mind Gova so far. And Kantrip is really f*cking towny wtf. Can we go like KeviM or J or LAK? Anyway. Page 15, lemme keep going.
Rainbow comes back into the game (begrudingly) to just copy-paste Ryker's reads. The bolded show as such. He says he has read to pg 15 but this is all he is giving? Then the next page just says "can we lynch J?" for the exact same reasoning as Ryker on me wanting to lynch Gova on Logic.
New flash for those who didn't realize. That was a major proponent as to why people were voting Gova yesterDay. I was just the person who put it into black and white and the dirty/ugly nature of it.
Rainbow is just being a complete tool at this point and should stop sucking Ryker's **** and get his own mind.
Speaking of which, Ryker was commenting earlier on Rainbow needing to get in here and post, when they do, he says nothing.
Ryker says I have nothing on the table. Not true at all.
Now Gova is dead
Day 2 - no deaths, J mad.
No real posts. Ryker continuing to say nothing while Rainbow continues to be Ryker's *****.
*live-topic'd*
MSF votes me even though no mention of me...wtf?
Vote: RainbowFingers
Him or Ryker toDay for me. I feel Rainbow is much scummier for his inactivity and his constant tool behaviour for Ryker this game makes him a bigger target while Ryker is a bigger fish to fry in terms of his bad play combined with his scummy behavior.
Say I don't have reads one more time.
