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[Anonano]

Yeah went and took a nap. My bad.

It's too bad that you blocked letting people know when you're online because I don't know whether to stick around still and hope you're still here or not, lol.

So, about chatting. Skype won't work for me because my computers don't have mics/cameras. Does anybody else know of a good chat site we can use?

 

[Scabe]

If only we could embed the chat like the good old days. Although now with the new Smashboards maybe it works? Send me a PM of the embedded chat code and I'll give it a try.

I think Skype would be cool. You can still use Skype to chat via typing.

 

[Fastblade5035]

Yeah, the only thing I can think of is Skype. That's best for me too, since Skype works on my Tablet too.

So, has anyone testing Zair landing? I haven't gotten the time yet, and unfortunately, Im going to Phoenix this weekend, so I can't test it :/
Also, what's a good secondary for Link? I've bounced around a lot of characters. Some of my favorites are Tink, Marth, Kirby, Charizard, and Zamus.

OH, and in doubles, I got 13th place. Honestly surprised. My partner was Ness, and to be honest, he wasn't that good. Most of the time he died, leaving me alone. Luckily his secondary, Game and Watch, was better. We lost to Pit and Wolf. Really agitating, because he got 4-stocked, and I got wobbled and gimped

 

[LordXav1er]

Yeah you don't have to video chat/mic chat on Skype. I never do and I use it all the time

<--- Skype name if anyone wants to add me

 

[Anonano]

Is there any limit to the number of people who can be chatting if you do just a typing chat?

 

[Scabe]

iirc one of the top Secondaries for Link is Pikachu, I think he covers Link's bad matchup's really well such as Falco and Dedede.

 

[Rizen]

Obviously MK is a good secondary for anyone . Marth's a common secondary for Link.

If you don't want to tier jump pick up Zelda. She'd low tier but doesn't get CGed and helps make up for that weakness, of course she still has mostly bad MUs.

If you want to jump to a viable character but not high tier I recommend G&W. He doesn't get CGed either. G&W goes even with DDD, slight advantage vs Pika and has a decent chance vs MK, Oli and Falco. G&W gets Marthed bad but covers most of Link's terrible MUs even or a winnable disadvantage.

 

[Fastblade5035]

I can play for a bit, guys. On 3DS, though, so no Xat.

 

[Rizen]

I can play for a bit, guys. On 3DS, though, so no Xat.

Okay, I'll play. Add me and I'll host

lol, DCed. I'll re-host.

Can you join?


Edit GGs the lag got worse but we got good games in. I can critique your style if you want?

 

[Fastblade5035]

GG Rizen Thanks for playing. Now I have played two Link legends. So, how bad did I do? Oh, and sorry for all the not-links. Just trying to get used to potential secondaries.

 

[Rizen]

GG Rizen Thanks for playing. Now I have played two Link legends. So, how bad did I do? Oh, and sorry for all the not-links. Just trying to get used to potential secondaries.

It's fine if you use whoever you want .
The lag at the end made it harder to play but this is what I saw:

You need to learn when to switch from projectiles to Zair and sword attacks. When Link gets (figurative) momentum from landing quick attacks he has a much better change of chaining more attacks. You saw me do things like Zair>dash attack, Fair/Bair>Utilt when you were on a platform above me>throw bomb up>Uair which punishes dodges, jab>jab, (cancel) grab> Bthrow/Fthrow>Bair/Fair, Fair>land and jab, bomb drop/Down throw from a jump>FF Nair, and use frame traps with projectiles by making you shield/dodge one to be hit with another and charge arrows partially to punish landings/dodges, etc.
Work on getting an eye for when to pressure the opponent and when to reset the situation. Several times you could have punished me (like shield grabbing my landings) but you retreated to spam more. It's hard in lag and knowing the right situations comes from lots of experience. Keep practicing but don't be scared to be aggressive when Link has the upper hand.

Work on tip-of-attack spacing. This means if you can hit with the tip hitbubble of Fair that's probably the best attack and so on. When The tip hit or 2 of Zair will connect it's too close for projectiles. Generally the best spacing is the tip hit bubble with each attack, no closer or farther (then a different attack or retreat and spam would be better). This helps you know when to stop using projectiles too. If bombs will be thrown short and not hit it's better to save them and charge an arrow or something.

(see tip of attack spacing)
http://www.smashboards.com/threads/unbreakable-spirit-using-link-in-brawl.325062/

The other big thing is your edge game is very unsafe. When quick tether edge hogging from hanging on the ledge>tap away from the ledge>Z>Z as fast as you can without overlapping buttons. I gimped you a lot because unsafe ledge stuff. You either tap away>z tether and hang or ledge jump. Try to mix in other options like ledge stand/attack, ledge hops and stalling like drop>bomb pull>regrab, etc.
Your other character like Pit were unsafe with ledge stuff too.


I g2g. GGs. If you want I can upload vids for specific critiques.

 

[Fastblade5035]

Sure, I couldnt record them so that'd be nice.

 

[Rizen]

Sure, I couldnt record them so that'd be nice.

Here's a replay and critique: http://smashboards.com/threads/hey-watch-out-link-video-critique-thread-8-20-legan-vs-ally-alsm.275902/page-12#post-15415324
Post #450

 

[Anonano]

Xat's working again :D

 

[Anonano]

Since nobody else has posted in the last few days Imma go ahead and double post.

Attended another tourney on Saturday, got 2nd of 5 in teams and 2nd of approx. 15 in singles.

And I never went to the loser's bracket YAY!!!

I uploaded a few of the vids already and I'm going to be uploading a lot more tomorrow and Wednesday. Some of the vids are really good and I hope to get some critique off them

 

[Scabe]

I can't believe how active your scene is.

Today all I did was play Melee

 

[Rizen]

Good work Ano

The entire site has been almost dead I've been busy and playing Monster Hunter Tri U in my free time. I'll wifi if people want but not now.

Airdodge> Zair seems like a great spacing mix up. It lets Link get around the opponent's speed by dodging and attacking their lag. Zair hits frame 10 and can cancel airdodge during any frame after 3 iirc. I might try and work this into my game more.

 

[Heero Yuy]

I can't believe how active your scene is.

Today all I did was play Melee

I would be playing Melee had there been more than just ONE PERSON in my whole scene in my area. >.<

 

[Scabe]

Haha. (Can someone teach me how to quote people? )

Our scene used to be really active. We'd host tournaments, have regular meets, our scene was considered the best in terms of personality in Australia. I'd say at most there was about 15ish players who were all into Brawl.

These days there's about 3 active players, (there's a couple of other players who show up now and then), where we've all been playing more of P:M and Melee, we still play Brawl too.

It's kinda sad about how small our scene is now and how infrequent that we get to play together, but on the brightside the people that have stayed are some of my greatest friends.

 

[Fastblade5035]

Haha. (Can someone teach me how to quote people? )

Our scene used to be really active. We'd host tournaments, have regular meets, our scene was considered the best in terms of personality in Australia. I'd say at most there was about 15ish players who were all into Brawl.

These days there's about 3 active players, (there's a couple of other players who show up now and then), where we've all been playing more of P:M and Melee, we still play Brawl too.

It's kinda sad about how small our scene is now and how infrequent that we get to play together, but on the brightside the people that have stayed are some of my greatest friends.

Scabe, just press "Reply" next to the "Like" button. :D

My scene is... really, really bad. There's only three of us that play professionally. The tournament I went to was in a bordering state :/
Whenever we Brawl, it's always over Wi-Fi.


I tried bomb-jumping to save myself today... and failed. The explosion sent me right, and so I fell helpless out of the screen.
Why can't Link infinite-explosion jump like Snake?

Well, I know WHY... Y SAKURAI, Y U SO CRUEL TO LINK???

 

[Scabe]

Scabe, just press "Reply" next to the "Like" button. :D

My god, I have no idea how I didn't see that button...

 

[Rizen]

A good habit is to pull a bomb right after momentum canceling. If your damage is high enough the bomb can easily below up before you fall to your doom.

^Lol. Too bad the multi quote is gone .

 

[Heero Yuy]

Scabe, just press "Reply" next to the "Like" button. :D

My scene is... really, really bad. There's only three of us that play professionally. The tournament I went to was in a bordering state :/
Whenever we Brawl, it's always over Wi-Fi.


I tried bomb-jumping to save myself today... and failed. The explosion sent me right, and so I fell helpless out of the screen.
Why can't Link infinite-explosion jump like Snake?

Well, I know WHY... Y SAKURAI, Y U SO CRUEL TO LINK???

1. That makes two of us. I'm considered the best in my scene (Brawl because nobody in my scene plays Melee) because I'm the only one who plays competitively.

2. Good to know I'm not the only one who's asked that regarding Link...

On the note of the bomb-jumping, I remember Akari Un doing some kind of perfectly timed bombjump where he simply falls to the very bottom of the screen and... Regardless of the timing of the explosion... The bomb explodes anyway which gives him enough vertical propulsion to reach the ledge safely. I'll need to find a video of that.

 

[Rizen]

^That's possible if he threw the bomb against something like the side of YI. Otherwise it's timing or Melee, lol.

Edit:
I'm organizing the video thread: http://smashboards.com/threads/hey-...itique-thread-8-20-legan-vs-ally-alsm.275902/

What I need from all of you is post videos that are 2012 and older, organized by the opponent's character, their name and if it's wifi or not. In the video thread: http://smashboards.com/threads/hey-...itique-thread-8-20-legan-vs-ally-alsm.275902/

I'm AMAZED how bad Link was even at the start of 2012! No wonder people think Link's free ! We need an updated, current video archive to show accurate MUs!

 

[Anonano]

Wellllll this place is dead but I will play WiFi if anyone is interested tonight. Even if I'm not on SWF just post a message and I'll receive an email alert.

 

[Heero Yuy]

Won't be able to go on the Xat until I get home after a 10-hour plane ride plus a 4-hour roadtrip. Then I'll probably come online for the remainder of the night to Brawl a bit before hardcore exam studying.

 

[Rizen]

Probably no one's up anymore...
()

Edit: People think Link's free but he does have decent tools
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKemQwsQ61M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrTctPlKrms

 

[Heero Yuy]

Gah. I picked up Link again today in Melee and boy do I suck with him. That's what I get for playing Brawl Link so much. >.<

If any of you also main Link in Melee (I secondary him in that game), how does he compare to your Brawl gameplay?

 

[Anonano]

Gah. I picked up Link again today in Melee and boy do I suck with him. That's what I get for playing Brawl Link so much. >.<

If any of you also main Link in Melee (I secondary him in that game), how does he compare to your Brawl gameplay?

Well, I'd have a decent idea of how my Brawl Link plays if I could get some feedback on it

My Melee Link is way more mobile and edgeguard-y. That spin attack is way too good. Even from the middle of the stage you can catch people by surprise and KO them. Spam game is definitely more mobile and I use nair way more (because it actually lasts long, unlike Brawl Link's nair).

I love utilt and grab combos, especially dthrow>Scraaaw!. Nair is nice near edges for setting up a Scraaaw! edgeguard. SH/FH boomerang and bomb pulling has so much mobility :3

But forum is dead, need more discussion and people giving critiques *cough*

 

[Rizen]

(I think Ano's trying to tell us something...)

I never played Melee competitively and haven't played since Brawl launched except a few random smash events. Melee Link was better but my Brawl Link is MUCH better because that. My Brawl Link's offstage and intercepting games are very good .

Edit:
Great free Zelda orchestra music, check it out before the site goes down: http://zreo.perix.co.uk/

 

[Fastblade5035]

I don't really play Melee competetively, but my Melee Link is obviously better. Longer boomerang and Zair, added with bombs. I also love using the Spin Attack to punish or to edgeguard.
Oh, and Link actually has a recovery in Melee, so there's that.
I almost never use the arrows unless it's for edgeguarding someone diagonally below the stage.

Also trying to learn 64 Link, but alas... no clawshot, and LAG.

 

[Rizen]

@ Ano I edited in a critique of your Oli game: http://smashboards.com/threads/hey-...rent-2013-videos.275902/page-12#post-15436337

Melee Link's generally considered the best non-hack smash Link but he still was low tier :[

 

[Huggles828]

Link is actually my best character in Smash 64. I like him a lot. I don't really mess with 64 competitively, although I have heard Link's borderline top on Hyrule Castle because it's such a huge level, despite being like 3rd worst on the tier list (I have no idea if this is true or not though). His recovery was practically nonexistent in that game though, haha. His upb started going down before the move even finished.

I'm okay in Melee as Link. I'm much better as Captain Falcon.

Also, hi guys I haven't been on much because Still Fire Emblem and also Only Three More Weeks of Pharmacy School Classes Ever.

 

[Rizen]

I don't know if this is accurate but it gives a good idea of Link's ranking in different SSB games: http://www.ssbwiki.com/Tier_list

 

[LordXav1er]

I'm horrible at Melee and 64 now :/

 

[Fastblade5035]

If you want, I can give ya a guide of sorts (A.K.A. what I do) for all three installments

 

[Heero Yuy]

Welp that's the last time I'm taking a one-week break from playing Brawl to focus on my studies... Jk, I'll try to balance time for both, but of course the latter is more important. xD

FB, you changed your Melee main to Marth? WHAT IS THIS?!?!?! D:

Anyhow, today I just decided, eh maybe just considered, to change my Link color to blue in honor of Xav1er - Mr. Legendary Link.

 

[Fastblade5035]

Yeah, I know I did pretty much the same thing this week too.

Says the guy who doesn't even main Link at all
Nah but srs, I kinda fell in love with Marth's playstyle. I still prefer Melee Link over Brawl Link, of course, but man, its SO easy with Marth!

My Link's color was originally red; then I went to blue, and now I'm probably going green.
Personally, Izaw helped me get into Link, but I never liked the gold. Whenever I think Link, I think, "I gotta be humble and smart, just like the real Link. Real Link would never wear expensive gold! Green tunic it is!"

 

[Rizen]

I use default character colors or blue in teams.

 

[Bomber7]

Also trying to learn 64 Link, but alas... no clawshot, and LAG.

Here you go buddy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSjHbkSmpEg&list=PL9ED7AA13C5434E92&index=1