Kowns Thread.

[pitskeyblade]

Apex pics are in the OP in the photo archive.

 

[Gadiel_VaStar]

You can cancel it by pushing up on the control stick and down on the c stick while holding shield then press A or c stick up to grab. The tech isn't that useful though because any smart opponent who sees you in woi knows Pit is vulnerable.

Mix-up/mindgame? Anything can be useful tbh. It's not about what's most obvious, but what the opponent expects. If you're constantly using it to fair their shield, a mixed up grab would work.

 

[Kuro~]

Well, tbh, it really isn't that viable IN MOST MATCHUPS. He got away with it far too much considering he was facing a marth... =.=

There are some characters something like that could be used against.

But it should only be used imo, at high % cuz of the fear of bair. Am i gonna bair or grab or retreat? So it could creat some nice mix-ups at high %. And bair beats/trades with a bunch of moves in this game.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

im not trying to be a **** or anything, i guess im just not getting what you are saying.


im sorry kuro, your wording confuses me.



@fyre

pitsfreeblade would need hours to practice tip spacing with pit

 

[Gadiel_VaStar]

Yeah I noticed that bair does trade a lot, it's a good move to trade with when they are at KO %s. I don't know if it's me, but I think Pits playstyle is getting a little stale. It's seriously time to mix-up Pits game. When I play him, I don't think he is as good as I thought earlier, but still viable. He's probably mid-high tier, low high tier maybe(in this metagame and with the playstyles of today). I think he can be higher though, bu t it really is time for a change in his game, and I think I'll have to be the one to do it.

Luckay's basic high-level Pit playstyle isn't cutting it. Maharba's camping isn't enough. FYRE's slow-paced hard reading game isn't enough, KiraFlax's fast-paced, heavy WOI based game is doing alright in a local environment but not enough at a national level. Pitzer's technical game did decent at Apex, but still was lacking; Admiral's matchup/counter Pit, basic yet advanced play seems to do well vs high lvl players, and Krystedez made a Pit break-out recently--it still seems to be cutting short vs certain matchups...

With so many different playstyles, and none of them doing enough work--Pit's we really need to step it up! I don't think we should focus on getting better at the sub-par tactics, but develop new ones. The main reason why the best players got where they were was because they were doing new and different tactics. I think we need that if we want to see Pit shine in 2012.

 

[Kuro~]

Naw son. Pit doesn't really need anything groundbreakingly new. (Tactics+mindgames+baits etc. are all player based not character based).People need to work on consolidating all these tactics taking what they feel they can use from other pit players. It's something i've been doing for ages now. I take as much as i can and make it my own as well as making up my own stuff. Other than that FUNDAMENTALS AND BASICS are what most pits aren't yet masters of. People also need to master buffering, safe play, arrow zoning, and...honestly? Study more.

@Hari well, that's good then. My main issues atm are buffering everything correctly, focus(i have a focus problem sometimes and it really hurts me in the long run), and matchups.

 

[HariKyuubi]

Well, I'll be here taking notes on this stuff.

I think I might be in the midst of a personal breakthrough myself. Don't get me wrong, I'm still not up to par yet, but I noticed I'm starting to see a LOT more options than just what's obvious.

 

[pitskeyblade]

@Abe- The hours and hours of practice have certainly shown results, especially in the Pit ditto. Wouldn't you agree?

Stay free, Texas.

 

[Admiral Pit]

That's the Fyre I know! And we're 2 months away from Uprising, still... Gotta last til then.

 

[Nike.]

One of you kept asking me to upload my sets against Kiraflax lol

There up: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=317411

 

[Kuro~]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR_hLjrxQiY&feature=g-u-u&context=G2379c23FUAAAAAAABAA

 

[Krystedez]

With so many different playstyles, and none of them doing enough work--Pit's we really need to step it up! I don't think we should focus on getting better at the sub-par tactics, but develop new ones. The main reason why the best players got where they were was because they were doing new and different tactics. I think we need that if we want to see Pit shine in 2012.

Naw son. Pit doesn't really need anything groundbreakingly new. (Tactics+mindgames+baits etc. are all player based not character based).People need to work on consolidating all these tactics taking what they feel they can use from other pit players. It's something i've been doing for ages now. I take as much as i can and make it my own as well as making up my own stuff. Other than that FUNDAMENTALS AND BASICS are what most pits aren't yet masters of. People also need to master buffering, safe play, arrow zoning, and...honestly? Study more.
.

Both of you are right. I'm only doing well because I practiced my spacing and studied my own matches, but also because I use my newer tactics that I develop per matchup. I remembered my mistakes against Kain and Seagull last time I played them and was able to take Kain out in bracket, and still kept toe to toe with him in GF both sets with Pit mostly. Had to break out wario because of physical energy.

Never play one match the same. Always change. Always move. But keep your fundamentals.

 

[Kuro~]

tl'dr adapt.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

@tara

i have no intelligent response to that. verbal *** whooping acknowledged.

@gadiel

it's not that we need to develop something new, it's that we all need to pick up each others playstyles and add them to our own.

we all specialize in 1 or 2 things like you pointed out: my camping/tanking style. luckays fast paced bait and punish. fyre's slow paced grab and juggle game with spaced moves. ptzr's tech skill application and bait/punish game. kiraflax's higher level reads, solid punishes, and overall speed of more aggressive style. krystedez's..... HAS NO VIDS WHY?!?!?!?!?!


we just need to start working on things outside of our normal games that others are good at. for reals, that's all we need is to be better is too not only play one style each

 

[MVD]

I'm da bess

 

[Kuro~]

No.

But your hair is~

 

[MVD]

I actually am the best lol my hair Too

 

[Arcansi]

Someone should help me learn matchups someday.

I find it hard to do anything vs G&W, MK, & Diddy(that one might have been wifi lag, but I have nothing else...). I also have no idea what to do against IC's on a stage like YI.

Along with basically not knowing any matchup ever, lol.

 

[Kuro~]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_DKyOLw1uU



ftilt da bess~

 

[pitskeyblade]

Hey guys, I got bored and decided to draw Pit.



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[Kuro~]

not bad

 

[pitskeyblade]

I wanna do one of all of us as our respective Pit colors, but that'll take a while.

 

[Kuro~]

If you do you should it all official like though~

 

[Gadiel_VaStar]

I wanna do one of all of us as our respective Pit colors, but that'll take a while.

If you make a collage, I can post it in the Pit tournament thread

 

[Admiral Pit]

Wonder how my Pit will be, but it shouldn't be too hard to know my angel's characteristics after our sparing lessons, right?

 

[pitskeyblade]

I know exactly how I wanna portray you all.

 

[Admiral Pit]

I'll be looking forward to it.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

since i use black and white, idk how but get like swag creative with it

 

[LoliLovesRain]

Hey guys, I got bored and decided to draw Pit.



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Good job~ i like

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

Needs more angel dust

 

[Gadiel_VaStar]

Just ordered a new Japanese white controller from playasia. It's time to do work Pits! Has anyone else noticed that your Pit play changes depending on the controller? Like I can't arrow loop as well on some controllers, but others I can perfectly. Has that happened to anyone else?

 

[Kuro~]

Controllers have different forms of sensitivity(based on the producer, quality, model, etc.) as well as the fact that you adapt to your controllers feel and that impacts play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaadZ_Yvy18&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROwH8ZEST1U&feature=related

two random songs courtesy of rob boards. I like em~

 

[Pitzer]

Just ordered a new Japanese white controller from playasia. It's time to do work Pits! Has anyone else noticed that your Pit play changes depending on the controller? Like I can't arrow loop as well on some controllers, but others I can perfectly. Has that happened to anyone else?

You gotta get use to controllers.

 

[Krystedez]

I have the same issue with controllers, my white playasia controller works perfectly fine because it's broken in, I can loop damn near perfect. Whereas the black new controller at my dad's fiance's house is horribly hard to move appropriately for loops. It just makes them curve into the ground. And the L button sticks for some reason.

 

[Gadiel_VaStar]

I have the same issue with controllers, my white playasia controller works perfectly fine because it's broken in, I can loop damn near perfect. Whereas the black new controller at my dad's fiance's house is horribly hard to move appropriately for loops. It just makes them curve into the ground. And the L button sticks for some reason.

Ok good, I'm not crazy..

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

having less buttons when using non classic-pro controllers is whack for me. i need my mods

i think mjg said i have 13 mods when he counted

 

[Blubolouis]

@fyre I want in, if you do draw it !

 

[Gadiel_VaStar]

Ok Tip of the day: Ban RC on wifi ladder at all cost, especially for those pocket MKs >_<

 

[Kuro~]

Rainbow shouldn't even be legal if they're gonna keep mk on AiB -.-

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

Been cp'd to rainbow 3 times in a row on ladder last time I played