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Koopa VS Kefka -- The Endless Tournament ends! Who took home the prize?

ranmaru

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I can't stop the saltiness, sorry. It's a by product of the cop checking my match vs kantrip.

Especially when the two actions seemed a bit stupid, that's what got me mad. I was thinking "Maybe he has a pattern" and that is why I was thinking indy/invidual wincons (or w/e they are).

I'll concede the indy point. I'll look at the cop pm more thoroughly later.
 

ranmaru

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It's a good possibility, but we still can consider the possibility of him simply following his own wincons. It's really hard to tell if the cop chose a match for an individual person, when both of his actions contained two obvtownies. (me/wott) vs (xonar/kantrip) when there are better and safer choices to choose from. Obviously we can tell the cop wasn't really considering the matches and how the scoring was going down. I was on the ****ing ball. But not anymore.

I'm not going to release whether I have cheated or not in the future, and I'll try to convince Joey to do so as well. You can argue why I should, I'll listen.
 

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This is a prime example of why you need to work on how you read people, Ran. You can't see something you don't like/understand and say "must be indy."
 

ranmaru

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Already conceded that. I'm sure you can understand why I feel that way from the previous post.
 

ranmaru

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I like how Kantrip comes in to potshot me but when I tell him that my previous post explains why I feel that way, he doesn't really care to talk to me about it.
 

ranmaru

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Soup's...interesting. I don't mind him overall but certain aspects of his play keep nagging at me, like auto-dropping the information he has about Terra or the fact that he was appealing for trust early in the game. Every time I think I might be able to trust him, he seemingly goes full ****** and breaks it almost immediately and I don't like that.

When did this come to mind to you? I thought you had a townie read on him. Just wondering how you started to change your mind here.
 

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I like how Kantrip comes in to potshot me but when I tell him that my previous post explains why I feel that way, he doesn't really care to talk to me about it.
It wasn't really related to the game and just a side comment, didn't feel like continuing the conversation. Didn't actually have relevance to the game, I was just drawing a connection.
 

Kantrip

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that's because he's scum
I assure you I will not cheat if I face any person who the majority believes is more townie than me.

In any situation, whether it threatens my tournament life or not. Unless I vastly disagree with the read, I will let obvtownies through. So you really don't have to worry about me, do you? Because it is 100% that I am going to face at least one of you/Fabio/Ruy/WATT/Joker etc before coming anywhere near winning the tournament, and if I advance and they don't, you guys can knock my *** right out.

So I'd appreciate it if, for one ****ing second, you could stop discrediting every ****ing thing I say. Either that or remove me if you're so sure, but I do advise against that as I already assure you I won't be a threat. That said, get off my back.
 

ranmaru

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I got a text message from some unidentified person, message was an ellipsis. Imma assume this is the mafiat communicado deal.

Thats it, not sure if it matters. But hey, scum thought I was scum so i guess thats cool
This is nice, but it doesn't clear you. It's still good you gave us this information though.

If you end up being town I'll make a mental note of it and remember to account for it in the future.
Right now, however, I will continue to distrust you.
Mmm, not liking how this post sounds. Regardless of your 'gut' on him. It just sounds like you want to distrust him because you have to, as scum. This also shows through your earlier actions when you asked me about him possibly scum with soup. You were trying to get a pairing on him, and not really trying to talk about anything else.

Eh, in retrospect maybe I need to move Gheb to a nullish and ISO him first
Why did you decide to move him to null? Just wondering.

This is what I'm worried about as well. On the one hand, I have no reason to distrust that particular information and yet I still can't make sense of it. I'd wonder if tomfoolery existed but in this event, it shouldn't, should it? There's nothing in this game to allow for that?
Assuming the content of the message from Rake is accurate/true, than we can assume that mafia either had a reason to target him or none at all. I have had a role in Fire Emblem mafia, that was similar. Some journalist role. It was pretty weak. All I could do was write a journal entry, it didn't really do much.

Now if they HAD a reason to target Rake, that would mean they thought he was mafia. In this case the contents of the message wouldn't be presented publicly, and would therefore be in null territory for us. Or they might have targetted him to mess with town, (Even though it's most likely a null, we are still here thinking about it, and Rake is using it to try to clear himself, which gives more content, but not much that you can really READ from) since no one really likes him (within reason). This would make more sense if their role was weak and useless in the case of confusing or for the **** of it. I'm going to assume the text message is only one way, since it wouldn't really make sense for it to be two-way, because then it'd allow scum-to-scum communication if they were both scum. Unless you guys have reasons to think otherwise.

This is assuming the message actually SAID that. It's still possible rake is scum who got a message telling him what to do, like lying about the contents of it.
 

ranmaru

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So I'd appreciate it if, for one ****ing second, you could stop discrediting every ****ing thing I say. Either that or remove me if you're so sure, but I do advise against that as I already assure you I won't be a threat. That said, get off my back.

I am fine with you/soup being removed tomorrow, actually.
 

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Also, leading off of my other post, if every player in the game agreed to cooperate accordingly, and we worked off of a hierarchy, we would have a really good game plan going into the tournament after removals/seeding/etc are taken into account.

You go against someone who is tiered above you, you let them win so our towniest players advance. Refusal means you get whatever that mechanic is we do to people in days for cycle 2 that ****s them over.
 

Kantrip

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You don't deserve a cop.
It's not about what anyone "deserves." Then don't cop me and let me carry on letting anyone townier than me win. You are literally ******** if you remove someone who will cooperate so easily. Especially when they turn up town.
 

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Err... Removal from the game. >_> That's not even a death. You should praise the gods that you don't get to die, just removed.
 

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You're tunneling and not listening to my words because you're mad I called you out, aren't you.

Stop being so dense.
 

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When did this come to mind to you? I thought you had a townie read on him. Just wondering how you started to change your mind here.
I still do but it's as I said in the hotel room earlier, little things like the Terra thing are starting to pile up against the slot. I've got my eye on him right now and it's just that but he's doing questionable **** and it's starting to pile up
 

ranmaru

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No, I'm not mad. I'm pretty sure there wasn't any emotion when I replied to your 'callout'.

I'm just noticing that you are now trying to gain wiggle room from the removal, and I'm not letting you get away.
 

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But you'll probably come over anyways and sleep on the BOTTOM SIDE of the bed lmao. (on the floor)
 
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