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Koopa VS Kefka -- The Endless Tournament ends! Who took home the prize?

Super Fabulous

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they made somewhat of a deal out of it in thread though i think that might be attributable to soup digging at it.

Was that your answer to my 'why do you think kantrip doesn't fit with them anymore' question? If not, please answer it. I'd also like your updated read on Kantrip.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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Think he's scum, the way he came in here earlier trying to prevent a gheeb removal was disgusting on top of everything else. There's a connection between them and it's not a townie one. Ghebscum pretty much confirms kantripscum to me. After that, it's just finding the last one.

@soup: looking forward to it

@pjb: that's fine with me

:phone: :mobile: whichever it is
 

#HBC | Laundry

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Also it's not kantrip that doesn't fit I think it'd be pawn. Pawn still might possibly be scum but I'm leaning away from it. I think it's more likely to be a slot that these three have put little pressure on, but I'm not in a position to go back and research it
 

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I would be 100% okay with removing Potassium. It sounds like from recent discussion between WoTT and PJB that Rake and Gheb are scum too, so I would support those removals. Pawn and Koop so far have been frustratingly useless, but I'm not sure if that means they're just being town who is slowing us down or scum who is still slowing us down. I'd be okay with removing them as well, but I'd much rather go with Gheb/pot/rake first.

I guess my read list would look like this:
Scum
Pot
Gheb
Rake

Scum Lean/I can't even read them because they never post anything useful
Shoco(I keep forgetting their even in this game)
Pawn
Koops

Town Lean:
Ryu
Soup
PP

Town
Super fab
PJB
WOTT
 

#HBC | Laundry

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Do we? Where?
Gheb, although you refuse to explain why he isn't. Go look at what pjb and wott have been posting about his match with rake.

You ******** about risk is silly, we need to take risks to progress our information or it gets slow/stale. If you had to remove someone right now, who would it be?
 

Super Fabulous

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I can understand waiting a bit to use it, but not using it at all is dumb. How can we succeed if we don't try at all. Grow some balls.
 

Kantrip

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Gheb, although you refuse to explain why he isn't. Go look at what pjb and wott have been posting about his match with rake.

You *****ing about risk is silly, we need to take risks to progress our information or it gets slow/stale. If you had to remove someone right now, who would it be?
I see Gheb as the exact same as me. Keeping up in matches but uninterested in the game so doing nothing. Is there more to it?
 

Kantrip

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I'm not up to date enough to make an informed decision and would probably just go with majority on the removal, which appears to be Gheb. I just think it's a bad idea to use it at all right now. Maybe later.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Okay, hi.

Another thought occurred to me about my previous proposition of giving scum the byes. I remembered that the person who gets bye'd also is allowed to review a match, and I don't want Scum to have an upper-hand like that. HOWEVER, If we go through with character claiming then it would less risky as we're being open. This post is much more vague than what I wanted it to be but I had a long day at work and I'm deathly tired.

So far, I've used Rawk Hawk, Terra, Chocobo and Mr. L
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Something else I want to use for this is fact checking and catching scum in lies. Town has no reason to lie about whether a character has a banned move or not, and this includes any other kinks that come with it.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I'm not saying to out a character with a banned move, but with claiming which characters we use this allows people to fact check easier and catch someone in a lie. I've almost thought about holding off on the removal because I think this could very easily net us scum, even though I'm still okay with removing Gheb if that's the case.
 

Super Fabulous

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Could you guys stop massclaiming characters until we have a list and time to claim it before we are forced to claim the rest for these outbursts. Thanks.
 

#HBC | Joker

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It looks like Rake threw his match vs gheb. I watched their match, and rake claimed to have used a move that was dark green against gheb, but a dark green move would have beaten him. He actually used a light green move, and his complete and utter lack of concern about the whole thing is very weird. Gheb literally used the same move over and over again, and rake kept losing to it.
 

Kantrip

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I don't want to play the ****ing game and I'm trying to ask questions and stay in this thread out of respect. If there were replacements I would hand my slot to one because I'm going through some **** irl that really makes me not want to deal with this complicated **** right now.

In response to your more respectful post, that is actually very strange. Have we been assuming a Rake/Gheb scumteam then? It's pretty stupid for scum to throw matches when they know they could be watched....
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Koops started to use the same move against me in our match but I trumped him and picked up on it and went back to main despite the color buff. It was a light purple. I wanna hear what Koops' game plan was there because I find it very odd that he kept using the same move. He did beat me twice with it but why try it again if I would pick up on it?
 

Super Fabulous

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I don't want to play the ****ing game

Then replace out. Do us a favor if you don't even want to play the damn game you signed up to play for. Or help us out by putting in the effort of re-reading. Think of this game as a game with only one lynch. Is that enough to really demotivate you? You can still talk reads, and give suggestions for cop targets. And talk more.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I don't want to play the ****ing game and I'm trying to ask questions and stay in this thread out of respect. If there were replacements I would hand my slot to one because I'm going through some **** irl that really makes me not want to deal with this complicated **** right now.

In response to your more respectful post, that is actually very strange. Have we been assuming a Rake/Gheb scumteam then? It's pretty stupid for scum to throw matches when they know they could be watched....

That's actually pretty true considering Gheb has been the talk of getting removed and why Rake would incriminate both him and his partner like this seems fishy. I don't see reason to 'throw' against him.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I guess the more important aspect of it is why Rake lied. I mean, think about it. Even if Rake threw for his partner, wouldn't he be shooting himself in the foot by having to take a 1 point loss? I don't understand it at all and perhaps I could if we weren't in the situation we were in but it's just incredibly stupid and either Rake just made the dumbest play I've seen from a scum in a long time or there's something more to this.
 

Kantrip

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*Clarifcation, find your own replacement.

Also I'm going to sleep now.
You saw the amount of replacements we had and how close Ryker was to getting modkilled. I don't want to completely neuter town's chances by having my slot modkilled, so I'm playing out my matches and trying to still exist, but my interest is very low.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Rawk Hawk, Tonberry, Raphael the Raven, Geno, and Mog

:3

I've faced Soup, Pixp, and Fabio

It's actually townie for you to go along with this. I like your willingness and openness a lot. Now, would you be fine with sharing me your game plan about what went down in our match? I'll trade my thought process for it.
 

Kantrip

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All I can remember of my reads are townreads, which were WATT, Fabio, soup, Joker, Ruy, and ttk looks pretty k too.
 

Picture Perfect

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I'm not saying to out a character with a banned move, but with claiming which characters we use this allows people to fact check easier and catch someone in a lie. I've almost thought about holding off on the removal because I think this could very easily net us scum, even though I'm still okay with removing Gheb if that's the case.
given the shoddiness of everything that went on in the gheb/rake match, gheb is likely scum regardless and it's highly unlikely he'll show up and actually claim his **** i.e. be a productive slot

geno, mog, mr. l
 
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