Koopa VS Kefka -- The Endless Tournament ends! Who took home the prize?

[Super Fabulous]

Super Fab, Rake scum
Shocodoro suspicious
soup town
PP, PJB, WATT awesome town

Not substantiating. Get over it.

Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.

It's nice that you have reads and stuff. Good for you! Congratulations! Now start explaining them. We're trying to get as much information to our tournament cop as possible. If you're choosing to just sit your reads out there and expecting the tourney cop to be like "Yeah, Kantrip had a few good arguments, so I'll listen to him!" then get over yourself. You're not that safe and you're definitely not confirmed townie yet. It's not like the Tournament Cop is going to be able to take a shot in the dark and feel confident.

PP's 260 made us realize that Soup wasn't nearly as townie as we previously thought he was. From PP's post and rereading the beginning of the game, it is really obvious that Soup came into this game with a plan. He showed us something that seemed really beneficial to town (but was obvious and it came across as common sense), aka talking about Mechanics. Once the "make myself look as obv town as possible" plan fell through, he went crazy on the opposition and only thought positively of the people that thought positively of Soup himself. He's now playing this game in an opportunistic way that only helps himself (coming across as a townie in any way possible) and he's not even bothering with helping the tournament cop at all. The tournament cop is our most useful tool outside of the actual game mechanics, and Soup is just kind of throwing him to the side completely for his own goals specifically. Definitely don't see this as townie and feel free to correct me if I'm misunderstanding him or all of this in general >_>.

Bye: Picture Perfect

Definitely the most townie player in our opinion. Definitely has been trying to progress the game in a positive manner, the information they bring to the game is definitely more useful than PJB or Kantrip, and their reactions are genuine and definitely great. Not sure why more people aren't on this already.

 

[Kantrip]

Whoa the random 180 on soup

whoa

 

[Wots All This Then?]

Ran you're not gonna get anything form kantrip when there is almost literally no incentive for him to do so. The tourney cop can only help out so much. We still need to win matches

 

[Wots All This Then?]

We're not only bye'ing townies guys. We're giving them less chance to get information for themselves. Seriously, that's a drawback

 

[Wots All This Then?]

also I'm mad hungry and about to bug out for the night.

 

[Kantrip]

We're not only bye'ing townies guys. We're giving them less chance to get information for themselves. Seriously, that's a drawback

We want scum to not make it to the winner's bracket if possible. Giving them a bye gives them points, and makes it impossible for the tourney cop to see them doing shady business or for a cheating townie to catch them super cheating.

Giving a bye to mafia is a bad decision.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

I didn't say give abye to mafia. I said we should be careful about which townies we're giving byes too.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

IE-Joker's going to be in a room with me and rake at the least. Ergo, he can give us the information he gets, while PP can get their own information that they have to themselves. Seriously, there's more to it then "lez not give bad guys a bye"

 

[Kantrip]

oh. well, they get to spectate a match and get information from that, plus they get points. I don't see how it's really setting them back. We're not gonna pick the same townie every phase. We'll help out townies that are low on points after we start seeing the point totals in progress

 

[Wots All This Then?]

488 kantrip.

 

[Kantrip]

Well I don't trust Rake and wouldn't want him getting that information, and don't see why PP can't share with their hotel room.

I do see your point though, and agree that Joker is probably a good Bye recipient for the Day.

Bye: Joker

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

can we stop playing favorites with the byes also super fab lol what are you gonna do lynch me

oh wait

 

[#HBC | Joker]

We're not only bye'ing townies guys. We're giving them less chance to get information for themselves. Seriously, that's a drawback

I would argue that getting the bye might actually net you more information. We don't know what information is gonna end up being public when the matches are said and done, so it might turn out that being a spectator who gets to see whatever they want could be a huge bonus.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

like i feel like a **** being lazy but i'm literally in no threat of anything and i doubt you could get me removed so you're kinda just blowing smoke and im gonna sit here and continue to be lazy

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

fab has his pants in a bunch talking about helping the tourney cop when we have 6 game days to ****ing help the tourney cop out

calm down

 

[Picture Perfect]

I've got a null town lean on j, because once again he's misconstruing my play and it readsd the same way he tends to try to figure me out when he's town. The fact that WL is at least trying to discenr my alignment before jumping down my throat like he did in gs makes that hydra just ok for now. But i need to see that those two are actually having a process to their reads.

 

[Kantrip]

soup do you see it yet? so scummy

 

[Super Fabulous]

"super fab lol what are you gonna do lynch me"

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

No I still kinda lean town on them, but I see where you could be coming from with the whole "Guys look how town I am let me remind you of what town SHOULD be doing by pointing out we need to help the tourney cop even though he has 6 game days to ****ing figure it out" and he doesn't need to us to hold his hand". I can see where you're coming from that point and the fact he just 180'd on me for no transparent reason, which I would think Ranmaru would much more considerate about instead of instigating a read like that at all without concrete evidence behind it (e.g questioning)

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

"super fab lol what are you gonna do lynch me"

get rekt kid i poop on u

 

[Picture Perfect]

I don't know what you want from me laundry. Yeah i was more proactive in gs, but so what ? A large part of my early p[lay their was to just do whatever it is I felt like in order to feel out my reads. i don't know why people have such an issue with me doing the exact same thing i always do. The only difference is here i'm not being nice about it, and it's because I'm acquainting myself to how to deal with all these mechanics that I have to.

I want you to actually ****ing contribute without me pulling you entire jaw out to do it.

 

[Super Fabulous]

Wait, so was the once out of all 6 days thing confirmed or no? >_>.

 

[Picture Perfect]

soup proving to be the most useless slot in this game by far.

 

[Picture Perfect]

Can't like my own posts, sad day.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

soup proving to be the most useless slot in this game by far.

what are you gonn-

lol you get the point

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Wait, so was the once out of all 6 days thing confirmed or no? >_>.

yeah pjb looked at it

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

man, arkham city was a great game

 

[Picture Perfect]

It's like you all expect me to just start town telling like it's my job lol.

Just let me figure out my reads and it'll be clear enough that you don't have to worry.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

you know i really like this whole can't lynch thing now i can not put effort and feel no pressure at all while people like j and the alike get really mad at me oh my god yes nabe you are wonderful why did i go into this game with a tryhard mindset

 

[Picture Perfect]

I said cheating should be reserved to the need to cheat for townies. It's not a weapon against mafia, if they can cheat too.

It helps us put ourselves on a semblance of an equal footing if the characters they have don't have banned moves.

 

[Picture Perfect]

what are you gonn-

lol you get the point

Can you go sit in a corner and just be out of the way? Grown-ups are talking.

 

[Picture Perfect]

you know i really like this whole can't lynch thing now i can not put effort and feel no pressure at all while people like j and the alike get really mad at me oh my god yes nabe you are wonderful why did i go into this game with a tryhard mindset

Actually it hasn't been me for a majority of the soup hate. Atm, me and Laundry are alternating posting so yeah. You're useless and that's from me this time.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

legitimately laughing right now

 

[Picture Perfect]

And it should be painfully obvious why I said that. But instead, here I stand, waiting for it to sink in.

This is entirely why we have problems with your slot. You say things but don't substantiate them believing them to be so obvious that everyone here will immediately understand when not a single ****ing person can read your mind. You then get mad when we ask for your reasoning behind your thoughts or ask you to actually contribute to the ****ing game and just sit on your ass longer.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

okay j ill leave have fun going on about a bunch of **** that's inherently useless and feeling good about trying to play a mafia game when it's clear this isn't really a mafia game write a ton of walls about your townreads and all that cool stuff you like doing

 

[Picture Perfect]

legitimately laughing right now

Let me finish catching up and we'll see if you continue to laugh.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

yeah pjb looked at it

that's not a thing that I did.

I'll see if I can, but I definitely haven't done that yet.

 

[Picture Perfect]

I'm going to be honest the only reason I'm even putting any effort into reads at all is so people will see how townie I am and help a brotha out

The fact that you are refusing to say more than simply state what they are has you quickly dropping out of my town list.

 

[Picture Perfect]

I (Laundry) am still finishing catching up. When I am done, I'm going on a rant because this recent behavior from some slots is obnoxious and detrimental.

 

[Picture Perfect]

what pisses me off is that even if i read super fab again and started to dislike him all i can do is advocate that he doesn't get a bye but i can't really vote him

You act like we can't strategize a method of dealing with slots we find scummy. Knowing, or at least thinking, a slot is scummy tremendously helps us prepare to beat them.