Koopa VS Kefka -- The Endless Tournament ends! Who took home the prize?

[Wots All This Then?]

That said, I'm probably going to(hypocritically) harass anyone in my hotel room to spill their beans and give up said info to me. Depending on circumstances of course.

 

[Super Fabulous]

That means we may have to consider the BYE'r's room as well. (Basically who they are rooming with, as they might learn whatever the person who got bye'd if they spill anything within)

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

I don't know what you want from me laundry. Yeah i was more proactive in gs, but so what ? A large part of my early p[lay their was to just do whatever it is I felt like in order to feel out my reads. i don't know why people have such an issue with me doing the exact same thing i always do. The only difference is here i'm not being nice about it, and it's because I'm acquainting myself to how to deal with all these mechanics that I have to.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

I don't know what you want from me laundry. Yeah i was more proactive in gs, but so what ? A large part of my early p[lay their was to just do whatever it is I felt like in order to feel out my reads. i don't know why people have such an issue with me doing the exact same thing i always do. The only difference is here i'm not being nice about it, and it's because I'm acquainting myself to how to deal with all these mechanics that I have to.

Because you're not visibly going about it in the same way you usually do.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

And that makes me scum because... ?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

It's like you all expect me to just start town telling like it's my job lol.

Just let me figure out my reads and it'll be clear enough that you don't have to worry.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

You've got the appearance of collectively doing nothing in addition to how you acted in our hotel room.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

It's like you all expect me to just start town telling like it's my job lol.

Just let me figure out my reads and it'll be clear enough that you don't have to worry.

>says he's gonna be a lazy ass about getting said reads

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

yeah i am going to be lazy lol. because it works. Why is my method in question if the results are good ?

 

[Wots All This Then?]

because we've yet to see results, silly.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

What about my actions in our hotel room is telling one way or another. What response were you expecting in the hotel room that would have made your read on me town ? What purpose did your question fulfill, when you could have asked the selfsame thing in thread ?

 

[Wots All This Then?]

Thread was not yet available.
I was expecting something more along the lines of" this is why something is protown", not "don't cheat and you can figure out why". The fact you said we shouldn't cheat tells me you're either wrong or trying to convince me that we shouldn't use one of the few weapons we have against the mafia. You dragging your feet about it definitely didn't help.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

My questions purpose fyi was gauging your intentions wrt matches, which are one of the few ways we have of beating the mafia in this game.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

You should spill any reads you've got btw.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

joker is really townie and he should get the bye

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

I said cheating should be reserved to the need to cheat for townies. It's not a weapon against mafia, if they can cheat too.

 

[Super Fabulous]

@Rake: Would you say you think you are playing well this game, by taking a laid-back approach? Has this gone well for you in previous games? (If so, please give examples)

joker is really townie and he should get the bye

Why? Talk to me a little bit about Joker. Also can you re-substantiate your PP read.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

And it should be painfully obvious why I said that. But instead, here I stand, waiting for it to sink in.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

joker is really townie and he should get the bye

I'm fine wih this. I'm also fine with kantrip or PP getting it.

I said cheating should be reserved to the need to cheat for townies. It's not a weapon against mafia, if they can cheat too.

But nabe's even said that if we don't use cheating that we can drastically fall behind the mafia. Cheaing's more of a survival tool then a last ditch effort.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

No, I'd say I'm getting a lot of people hot and bothered and it's hilarious to me they think that, in the situation were I finally role scum like I've been wanting to for the longest time, that I would then proceed to just make myself real hated. Goobey plz. Yes, my laid back approach was very semi successful in GS mafia, which was lost to a mechanic i still maintain is bs.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

And it should be painfully obvious why I said that. But instead, here I stand, waiting for it to sink in.

There's two options that work for rake town. One is that he is stupid. You aren't stupid.

 

[Super Fabulous]

So getting people hot and bothered is a good thing? How has this helped you find scum in any way? Can you, post some results if any?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

My reads were hella tight that game. Early Cirmafia everyone got all uppety at me too because of my attitude and then me and orbo picked out 3/5 scum.

So yeah, I can keep citing games were doing things my way results in pretty good results. But what's the point of that question ?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

no i literally have decided all of this talk is pointless and im starting to understand why kantrip isn't motivated to discuss reads further than surface level

 

[Super Fabulous]

I'm saying what results you may have in this game.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

no i literally have decided all of this talk is pointless and im starting to understand why kantrip isn't motivated to discuss reads further than surface level

talking to me?

 

[Super Fabulous]

no i literally have decided all of this talk is pointless and im starting to understand why kantrip isn't motivated to discuss reads further than surface level

It's not pointless. If we don't talk about reads then it'll be just mechanics and crapshoots. (Without any strong reasoning because there wouldn't be anything to pull from, just w/e)

So please, talk to me about why you want PJB bye'd. Come on bro.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

hm i dont know conflicted on pp still want to like him for washed's recent posts today

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

because pjb is really ****ing town and like do you need me to draw a map for you like look at his posts

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

It's not pointless. If we don't talk about reads then it'll be just mechanics and crapshoots. (Without any strong reasoning because there wouldn't be anything to pull from, just w/e)

So please, talk to me about why you want PJB bye'd. Come on bro.

this game is gonna be really long and i doubt all of this will be even close to relevant when we actually get to the matches.

 

[Kantrip]

no i literally have decided all of this talk is pointless and im starting to understand why kantrip isn't motivated to discuss reads further than surface level

Thank you. I also agree with Joker getting a bye, but if people are okay with it I'd like to ask if I could have?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Well I'm pretty reasonably sure Soup is town here despite other's assertions otherwise, that's a result of it.

Watt is becoming a bit of a stronger town lean the more he fights me. But i'm waiting to see if he takes it anywhere.

I've got a null town lean on j, because once again he's misconstruing my play and it readsd the same way he tends to try to figure me out when he's town. The fact that WL is at least trying to discenr my alignment before jumping down my throat like he did in gs makes that hydra just ok for now. But i need to see that those two are actually having a process to their reads.

I still don't like Kantrip, not a huge fan of the xonar hydra and I'm waiting to be impressed by ryu, pawn and koopa.

Still deciding if you(Super fab) have earned anything more then me not worrying about you for the moment.

Joker's pretty okay to me (null townis), he looks like the same plodding PJB that I've been town with so many times.

That's all I got.So PoE wise I'm doing alright, and eventually I will have a stronger feel on scum.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

why is having the bye so important to you?

 

[Kantrip]

soup talk to me about Super Fab if you will

 

[Super Fabulous]

because pjb is really ****ing town and like do you need me to draw a map for you like look at his posts

Well, yes. I'm re-reading to solidify my reads but I want to know why you find him so ****ing townie.

 

[Kantrip]

why is having the bye so important to you?

Because I'm a selfish greedy ******* who plays to his personal win-conditions

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

nothing's really changed for me for that slot besides the previous read i have (in my wallpost), is there something that's bothering you about him?

 

[Kantrip]

Well, yes. I'm re-reading to solidify my reads but I want to know why you find him so ****ing townie.

Because he is. PJB has my Kantplay endgame pass right now, and if you can't just see the towniness emanating from his posts then I'm not gonna waste the time sitting here explaining it to you when there is no benefit to doing so.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

speaking of win-cons are we allowed to talk about them like can i state what my individual win-cons are

 

[Kantrip]

nothing's really changed for me for that slot besides the previous read i have (in my wallpost), is there something that's bothering you about him?

The defense of you without any reasons really bothered me. Like, I think you're town now, which makes him coming in with that defense smell really bad. It reeked of him having knowledge he shouldn't (you're town) and playing on the right side because he could (I'd say for town points but this game is so weird I don't see how that would get town points, it's just the natural scum reaction to side with a townie who's getting pressured. Makes that townie like you)