Koopa Questions: a Bowser Q&A Thread

[colddegree]

I just started to use bowser, so wat should i learn and how to play him?

 

[kewl]

I just started to use bowser, so wat should i learn and how to play him?

first thing, learn that bowser aint great, but he aint bad either. just takes a high learning curve. but he is fun as hell :D.
second thing, learn to UP B OoS


the rest i bet the others can tell you better than me.

 

[Trouble King]

I just started to use bowser, so wat should i learn and how to play him?

Lose gracefully.(jk) I'm not a huge Bowser pro but I'm not some no-talent scrub either.

Just don't play aggressively, (especially since you're new with him). Space your attacks carefully and don't use alot of punishable attacks(anything with long ending lag) unless they're a sure hit. Like they said before me, up-b oos. It'll be your best friend in the long run. It's Bowser's safest move if you use it wisely. And...wait just go to JayDeth's Bowser guide, 'More Power'. It'll answer the rest of your question. It's stickied on the Bowser page.

 

[colddegree]

yea i shad alot to ftilt, and upb oos shield already its very useful lol,

 

[Kofu]

Also learn to Klawhop, it takes about 2 seconds to get the basics down and it's a fantastic technique.

 

[colddegree]

i learned klawhopping from the start, i was klaw hopping all over a ganon lolol
my fav combo i do against a ganon is a klaw to ffnair to upb its an easy 40-50% O_o

 

[Trouble King]

i learned klawhopping from the start, i was klaw hopping all over a ganon lolol
my fav combo i do against a ganon is a klaw to ffnair to upb its an easy 40-50% O_o

Unless they DI/Dodge out of the way. O.o

 

[Maniclysane]

Is anyone gathering Bowsers hitbubbles?

I would love too see some of them, like his uair and nair.

 

[Hobobloke]

Did you even look?

 

[Maniclysane]

No I didn't.

 

[B!squick]

I think you have your answer then, lol.

 

[colddegree]

Unless they DI/Dodge out of the way. O.o

lol well i never had any1 dodge the upb after the nair, but it only happens if the nair connects >_> lol
btw i just fought a bowser today, i have no idea how to fight one -_-

 

[B!squick]

As Bowser? Lots of Firebreath I'd imagine. And grab releases.

 

[Flayl]

It's a klaw hop fest.

 

[Trouble King]

Block his up-b oos, punish with up-b oos.

 

[Flayl]

Or just klaw his shield? lol

 

[colddegree]

hmm k, but would grab release be useless? i mean cant he do the exact same thing he he ground releases?

 

[Flayl]

That didn't make much sense. And no grab release isn't useless against Bowser, it's useless against Donkey Kong and Ice Climbers.

 

[Bowser King]

I'm pretty sure DK is the only character that gets 20 frames where he can't move when hes grab released. Bowser only gets 20 frames when hes doing the grab if I'm not wrong. Meaning, when he gets grab released, he still has the usual 30 frames. I think thats how it goes. I'll look it up and then come back to you....

 

[Flayl]

No need to look it up, that's exactly how it goes.

 

[Liquid Gen]

Actually, dk gets 21 frames. Bowser gets 31. So does most everyone else with a few exceptions getting 30 frames (breaking from a grab)

 

[MrEh]

Grab releases are also semi-useless against Yoshi and Zelda.

 

[colddegree]

>_> i forget that theyre frames from a grab release, forgive im a nub

 

[Phir3]

What are some good grab release strings or combos? I looked in the grab release thread and couldn't find anything. The grab releases that I use are:
GR>Dtilt (for kills)
GR>Both Jabs (damage racking)
GR>Jab>Re Grab>GR>Both Jabs (damage/GR mixup)

 

[lcampoy8]

What are some good grab release strings or combos? I looked in the grab release thread and couldn't find anything. The grab releases that I use are:
GR>Dtilt (for kills)
GR>Both Jabs (damage racking)
GR>Jab>Re Grab>GR>Both Jabs (damage/GR mixup)

Grab to Ftilt
Grab to Klaw
Grab to jab to Klaw

also i heard that bowser has a infinite grab release. is that true?

EDIT: like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeOvN3LtlKI&feature=related
or this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNTfktgrsS8&feature=related

 

[Flayl]

Read the comments of the first video you posted.

 

[lcampoy8]

lol alright, now i know. thanx

 

[colddegree]

hmm I cant ever true pivot > I tried to learn it for the retreating pivot grab thingy for marth, but i cant seem to pull it off D:

 

[WhatIsRaizen?]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=235552

 

[GreenFox]

How effective is bowser in doubles? I'm guessing not very because I cant find a thread for it

 

[B!squick]

Depends on who you ask, but you're better off with a different character as a partner. One of Bowser's failings is his big ol' hurtbox and having two dudes to worry about instead of just one doesn't help matters.

 

[GreenFox]

Yeah, but D3 has the same problem and hes a great doubles partner I just didn't see a thread or have ever seen a bowser in doubles. I'll just assume working on that is a waste of time then :D

 

[Cassius.]

Haven't seen a Bowser in doubles? Try two, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQqRo1b-wPM&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzf5Rd2y7X0&feature=channel

Also GreenFox, I was just in Clayton last week lmao.

 

[GreenFox]

Haven't seen a Bowser in doubles? Try two, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQqRo1b-wPM&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzf5Rd2y7X0&feature=channel

Also GreenFox, I was just in Clayton last week lmao.

really? what were you doin here nothin at all is here <_< shoulda played brawl with me lol

 

[Cassius.]

I was visiting family for my thanksgiving break. A lot of my family lives in the Clayton area and in Virginia as well so I went to spend time with them.

Bowser really isn't that great of a choice in doubles. I only use him when I'm either bored, it's Low Tier doubles or if I'm paired with someone like Snake. <.< I usually use D3. I guess Bowser works so long as you're never the "1" in a 2 on 1 situation. If your partner is good at keeping one enemy at bay long enough for you to go to work on the other, or even both enemies, you'd be fine, but that usually never happens for me. D:

 

[Jupz]

I'm having some trouble with grab release regrabs, mainly when they ground or pummel release. Any tips or easy ways to do it?

 

[Hobobloke]

There's no easy way, you can't buffer out of a grab release so it's just learning the timings. Practice makes perfect.

 

[Flayl]

Find out how's your reaction speed. If you can't reliably dash regrab an opponent out of a pummel release (I can't), then just use the most damaging move available to you.

Here's what I do:

For damage

---Standing chaingrab---
Charizard
Ivysaur
Wario

---Wait and follow chaingrab (avoid releasing during a pummel)---
Bowser
Charizard
Diddy Kong
Falco
Ganondorf
King Dedede
Link
Sheik
Snake

---Forced air release chaingrab---
Lucas
Meta Knight
Pikachu
Squirtle

---Pummel into OverB---
Fox
Lucario
Mario
Ness
Olimar
Popo/Nana
R.O.B.
Toon Link
Wolf

---Forced air release FAir---
Jigglypuff
Kirby
Luigi
Mr. Game and Watch
Yoshi

---Down Throw---
Captain Falcon
Donkey Kong
Ice Climbers
Ike
Marth
Peach
Pit
Samus
Sonic
Zero Suit Samus
Zelda



For kills

---Pummel into DownB---
Lucas
Ness

---Forced air release UAir---
Jigglypuff

---Forced air release UTilt---
Wario

---Pummel into DTilt---
Bowser
Charizard
Falco
Fox
Ganondorf
Ivysaur
Link
Lucario
Mario
Meta Knight
Olimar
Popo/Nana
R.O.B.
Sheik
Toon Link
Wolf

---Pummel into OverB---
Luigi
Peach
Popo/Nana
Samus
Snake
Sonic
Squirtle

---Forced air release FAir---
Kirby
Luigi
Mr. Game & Watch
Pikachu
Yoshi

---Pummel into FTilt---
Captain Falcon
Diddy Kong
Ike
King Dedede
Marth
Pit
Zelda
Zero Suit Samus

---Back Throw---
Donkey Kong
Ice Climbers

 

[Vex Kasrani]

Bowser is awful in doubles :/

I wish he was awesome in doubles though! :/

 

[Jupz]

Thanks a heap flayl, that list is very helpful. I'll just have to memorize it.
thanks a lot guys.