So far from both discussions and personal experience Yoshi's not-so-fun Matchups so far is like this
Ones I feel that can be troublesome in the future maybe
(when Fox mains figure out we honestly do not win this +3)
For small reasonings
is obvious, Rush down and stuffs us in the face if we attempt any egg camping. Still suffers of course from projectiles but since ours has a decent cooldown whether we use it in the air or ground he's able to retaliate against us compared to projectiles like Sheik Villager Megaman etc.
I really don't see how they think it's +3 still. I can play megafox 100 times in my town and I'll prolly go 4-96. Even though fox's main kill move Usmash is nerfed and he fishes for kills about as hard as Yoshi does. Still feel like Fox would be netting them before us with his speed on the ground and fastfall speed along with his high jumps, spaced bairs basically.
Has been seeing more play recently since most people dropped him due to VI removal, mostly of course usually in 2 stock tournaments and having 1 stock left around 120-170% and killing people around the 30-60% range. If we're too hasty on trying to kill Lucario early cause we're afraid of the aura+rage combo we'll most likely lose if we panic and just keep throwing out our kill moves everywhere giving him a chance to get a free kill with side-b. Think our DA can clank with his charged aura sphere, though I wouldn't test in matches of course, try training before listening to this advice.
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Luigi's cyclone and fireballs got better and him trying to be diddy with his own Dthrow combos is pretty damn strong. Luigi still suffers for being luigi though, friction of being on ice landscape all the time and trouble recovering if he used his DJ already. Prolly safer to pelt eggs at him over Mario.
Mario's strings, while we can DJ out of most of them, are still troubling to deal with and his cape/fludd is annoying to go around as well. His fireballs still as annoying as ever and everything about Mario is, well, Balanced. Even the percents he kills us at is reasonable.
There was a bit of discussion on Megaman somewhere. So for now I'll just say his zoning is pretty damn good and pellets is the most annoying projectile to deal with not including Sheik's Needles of course. Metal blade just helps him even more and Megaman's fair/bair comes out pretty fast too. Wonder when megaman's will use leaf shield to footstool offstage on us more often...
Anyone that's in the skype group can go back to read what I think of Jr.
If not, his aerials come out fast while destroying any egg tosses we do, his Dair has weird priority that beats all our moves and randomly breaks our DJ when it feels like it, he takes less damage if we hit the clown car which we're hitting most of the time so even if we want to camp we get little reward on a hit cause less damage done, you can't gimp him cause he has two double jumps + he can mix up how he recovers. 5th or so heaviest character in the game, and kills relatively early. If he gets a hit confirm with clown car he can UpB to chase and hit with hammer, which I should also mention comes out incredibly fast hits behind him and destroys eggs as well.
Feel like everything about her got stronger, we lost Bair so we can't use that like we did in brawl to deal with Peach and ZSS for example in brawl. And I forget if she was able to in brawl too, but in this game her fair can destroy our eggs. I played one decent peach and even though I went 2-0 they were very close games. I'm not looking forward to playing another peach main again.
http://smashboards.com/threads/yosh...-thread-dinobeast-scary.386843/#post-18383124
A few FG and one offline Wario's I've played they always won, usually from late waft which I'm surprised that kills now over just 40+%, his aerials outside of fair I feel got better (even his bair is a kill move) his bike ramps up pretty fast and funny enough combos into itself but we can thankfully OoS Nair them if they get to bike happy. Bite is still good and actually eats our eggs now, and like usual his smashes outside of Dsmash is relatively good still along with the fact he still has pretty much the same mobility from brawl outside of being able to spam airdodge all day and no more grab release to Usmash so that hurts us :<
Depending if the owner of this thread doesn't come back, I think the ownership of this thread should be switched over to somebody else once we give another month or two for more different matchups to be played.
