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Kingdom Hearts Mafia~Day 8~End Game!~Roles revealed!

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ligolski

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Okay, this whole voting Pure of Heart thing is out of hand. Inactivity is best defined as not playing the game, and is not in a ny way indicative of role. She simply hasn't posted; she's inactive. While it is valid to say that an inactive player is not helpful, she is not necessarily a bad guy. The town goal is to lynch all the non-town players, not the least useful players. A Pure of Heart lynch wouldn't show as much information as a lynch of anyone else. For example, let's say you lynched me. My alliance is then confirmed (I know I'm town, but anyone would say that so it's not really necessary), and then you look at who I sided with, who I sided against, etc. If we lynch PoH, there's no other leads for the next day besides whatever information is obtained overnight.

By contrast to inactivity, lurking is one when is reading the game, and keeping up somewhat, but intentionally not posting. This is much more suspicious than inactivity, as the lurker is afraid to post because he or she may be seen as suspicious for saying something stupid/scummy (ugh, redundant much?). Anyway, I feel that SmashNinja has truly been lurking. You've posted several times, but haven't said much at all in terms of content. Is there anyone you find suspicious, and why?
QFT...I won't vote for smashninja b/c that would be just plain bandwagonning but I agree with the pressuring votes...Hopefully later I will have time and go back through and reread...this has been one long day one...
 

Uncle Meat

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I don't want to be seen as a flip-flopper or whatever, but I guess I was wrong about voting PoH. Not to mention he hasn't suddenly started posting and the pressure voting did nothing.

Un-vote: Pure of Heart

I haven't thought of Smashninja as being lurking as much as just inactive. Has he done anything suspicious?
 

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There's one thing that I don't quite understand though. Earlier, you guys pressure voted me (and someone else, I forget who, smashninja?) and a few people joined along and kinda bandwagoned. They did so until the voted person showed up (for me it was because Chill sent me a PM, not sure about the other person). But now we vote PoH, she doesn't show up, show no sign of life, didn't post ONCE and NOW you all figure that it's a bad idea to vote an inactive? Did I miss something?
 

Uncle Meat

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I just realized I didn't actually post a real response to you.

I'm not completely sure about this, but I think pressure votes aren't actually intended for the kill, just to make people argue their case. Some people are unvoting because Smashninja seems a better target, and some people have stopped now that it's clear that she has forgotten about the game.
 
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A few people have been talking about not voting for this or that because of bandwagoning, but if you think about it, with this many people in the game still, Chill said i believe it was 9 people are needed to vote for something to come up with any one consensus so if a few people vote for someone and then everyone else desides not to because of bandwagoning, we wont get anywhere to quickly.

vote: smashninja

I still think no lynch is a bad idea and still agree with the inactives. Smashninja seems like the better inactive to get rid of because of the previous points against him such as lurking.
 

ligolski

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fyi:
there is a difference between inactive and lurking

inactive is when I person doesn't even read the forum/forgets about it
while a lurker just reads but doesn't post as doc said I believe for being afraid of being scummy or just wanting to not help the town...whichis inherently mafia or independent...
smashninja is thought to be a lurker not an inactive...

A few people have been talking about not voting for this or that because of bandwagoning, but if you think about it, with this many people in the game still, Chill said i believe it was 9 people are needed to vote for something to come up with any one consensus so if a few people vote for someone and then everyone else desides not to because of bandwagoning, we wont get anywhere to quickly.
I guess your right and this day has been going on forever...
vote: smashninja

We definetly need a vote update cuz I have no clue where we are at this time...
 

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Official vote Count

Pure of Heart: 5
Arkengate, Camo-man, Jarc,karshkin,common

Ronike: 1
frozenflame

SmashNinja02: 6
Thedocsalive,DiamondFalcon,DeathReaver780,jazzyswimmer,ligolski

With 19 alive it takes 10 to lynch
 

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I'd edit that last post for it's lameness, but then I'd get warned.

I'll go read the thread to see what I can find
 

Ronike

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Sorry smash, but this day has just gone on too long. vote: smashninja
Thanks for the second chance people, Ill make sure that I make myself worthy of it.
 

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One more vote is needed.

I haven't re-read the thread yet, but could someone at least give me a small reason why you're all voting for this guy?
 

Ronike

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Major lurking. He posted twice before the game started, then when he was pressure voted, and then once more for something.
 

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ronike throws the hammer vote eh? ontop that you were already suspicous and we didn't give the guy a chance to say anything thats mighty suspicious IMO...I at least wanted smashninja to say something...o well its too late now unless he wants to talk during twilight...
 

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And we indeed need to move on.
Booooooo incredibly tedious day 1's! Boooooooo lurkers/inactives! :mad:
Chill;2070296 Hurry up and kill someone.[/QUOTE said:
Come on, 1 more vote to end this bloody day.
Thats why I hammer voted. Everyone (myself included) seems sick of this forever lasting day 1. Come on people, stop suspecting me for doing one stupid thing! Just cause I was mafia in the other game doesn't mean I am in this one!
 

Uncle Meat

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Hey, I know he's already lynched, but Vote: SmashNinja.

*Kicks the dead body*
 

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Official vote Count

Pure of Heart (now Eoringlas): 3
Arkengate, Camo-man,karshkin

SmashNinja02: 12
Thedocsalive,DiamondFalcon,DeathReaver780,jazzyswimmer, ligolski,Kujirudo,frozenflame,Ronike, Jarc, Uncle Meat, Commonyoshi
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After much discussion, arguing, and subtle lies, the majority have come to a decison. As night draws closer you grab SmashNinja and carry him to the gateway leading from this world.

Without much effort the mob tosses him into interspace.

But SmashNinja comes back without a problem.
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End of Day 1.

It is now Night 1 send in your abilities.
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As a reminder, there is no posting during the night. Save your comments for the beginning of the next day.
 

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Day 2

You look around to see what happened during the night. You see a heartless running off into the shadows. You soon realize thedocsalive is missing. He was Donald Duck, Town-aligned.



Could that heartless have been him?

SmashNinja is shrouded in darkness and cannot use or be hit by abilities tonight.

Commonyoshi is in a daze and cannot vote today.

Worried about the events of the night you begin a new day.

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Official Vote Count

Uncle Meat: 1
Eoringlas
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You may now post. Even if you can't vote you can still post.
 

Ronike

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Hmm, so kuji's not who I thought he was. Doesnt mean much, could easily be a number of other characters
 

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Hmm, so kuji's not who I thought he was. Doesnt mean much, could easily be a number of other characters
You thought I was Donald Duck eh? Nope, however I know why you thought that I was him. Magic?

Anyway, anoying SmashNinja. I haven't played the game, but seeing him getting back in this world after we tried to lynch him is bad. Seeing him being able to ward abilities off is even worse. I'm almost 100% sure that he is mafia. But, there is one thing that prevents me from that. Why is he also unable to use his own abilities? Is this a restriction on his role or did some town character do this to him? If SmashNinja is really inactive, then a town character would have put this darkness thing on him. But if he is lurking, he could have used this skill on himself, thinking that we would think somebody else did it.

And I think that Ronike is very lucky to be alive, I thought he would get killed because he helped us to figure agentli's role out.
I also think that the mafia player who lynched thedocsalive is an advanced player. Thedocsalive didn't post too much, although what he did post was very accurate. Thedocsalive has always been a good mafia player and seeing him getting lynched on Day 1 probally means that an advanced mafia player feared thedocsalive knowledge about the game.

I'm gonna Google around for a moment to backtrack SmashNinja's role.
 

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Hmmm seems thedocsalive always dies off quickly....well at least that's what's been happening...maybe he was on to something day 1 and the mafia thought he got a little too close?

But I am a real boy!
 

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So smashninja can't be lynched (or maybe that only works once) and now he has been roleblocked or whatever at night which also defends him. Let's see what he has to say about this. Do we have any hints about his role yet?

And alas poor Donald Duck. I wonder what abilities he had.
And since the heartless ran off and thedoc was missing, I doubt he was heartless so maybe there is a mafia person that controls heartless and he kidnapped/murdered him.

Anyone else notice that Eorlingas is voting for Uncle Meat already without posting it? I thought that was odd.
 

ligolski

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In conclusion:
Vote: agentli
FoS: SmashNinja
FoS: Deathreaver
maybe he was on to something day 1 and the mafia thought he got a little too close?
That is a good place to start and what do you know agentli, one of his last posts he did was against you and other suspicious characters, though he later overturned that by unvoting you...
It seems to me that it is possible that smashninja is just lurking around and used his ability on himself and even more is that thedoc fosed him and maybe others? who definetly could be mafia and are just lurking and decided that he was a threat...
I can't remember who else he voted or was suspicious of so if someone could throw that out there because I got hw to do :(

But otherwise I I am going to need to spend some time rereading if I ever get the chance so hopefully more later...
 

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Wtf? Why do I have a vote on Frozen flame?

Unvote: Frozenflame
 

#HBC | FrozeηFlame

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Thedocsalive is a superb player, and any person who has played mafia here before knows it. That's why they killed him. Beleive it or not, I think TDA has tied, if not surpassed my record of night 1 deaths. While it's very possible that he was on to something the mafia didn't like, I think the primary reason is just the simple fact that he's a strong player.

As for SmashNinja, I personally don't think he's mafia. Giving a mafia member an unlynchable ability would be pretty unbalanced. His survival reminds me of the original SSBM mafia we had here hosted by Drab, in which TDA was Peach and had two lives. Furthermore, that black shroud around definately sounds like a mafia roleblocking ability to me, which further supports the idea that SmashNinja isn't mafia. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he was independant (as a matter of fact I'm leaning more tha way than town, seeing as how he has a survival role), but I can't see him being mafia at this point.

Also, Eorlingas your vote was on Uncle Meat, not me. Regardless a pre-emptive vote is quite peculiar.
 

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Well I feel dumb

I could have sworn it was on Frozen

Unvote: Uncle Meat
 

ligolski

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I wouldn't be at all surprised if he was independant (as a matter of fact I'm leaning more tha way than town, seeing as how he has a survival role), but I can't see him being mafia at this point.
Does it matter?
 
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