K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: PM BKupa666 for an Invite to the New K. Rool Thread

[BKupa666]

I was just watching the Smash Run portion of the Treehouse stream, and during the gameplay, one of the hosts pointed out that "he loved seeing the Kremlings back," to which the other guy responded that "he loves those guys." I don't know what sort of positions they hold within Nintendo, but it's good to see we're not alone in being loyal Kutthroats in any case.

Also, in looking at the Green Kritters in action, it seemed as though they were performing spastic headbutts, kind of like the Kritter mechanics in DK64 did on the Blast-o-Matic to start it up. I don't know if that's what the team was going for, but if so, wow, that's a really awesome subtle reference.

 

[pandajedi]

I'd like there to be a "villains" trailer along the lines of the Pokemon one they had. It's a shady backdoors meeting room, Bowser laughs as the camera pans over to Dedede as Meta Knight glides up, continues panning to reveal Wario, and finally lands on Ganondorf. Cue footage of Ganondorf, Wario, and Meta Knight gameplay, with tweaks to their moves. Finally, cut back to the evil meeting room, and have a cannonball smash the table. K. Rool slams down, and "K. Rool does a cannonball!" appears. The ensuing gameplay footage would show off his moves as well as the Gangplank Galleon stage.

 

[AncientTobacco]

I was just watching the Smash Run portion of the Treehouse stream, and during the gameplay, one of the hosts pointed out that "he loved seeing the Kremlings back," to which the other guy responded that "he loves those guys." I don't know what sort of position hold within Nintendo, but it's good to see we're not alone in being loyal Kutthroats in any case.

If only those guys worked at Retro...

Also, in looking at the Green Kritters in action, it seemed as though they were performing spastic headbutts, kind of like the Kritter mechanics in DK64 did on the Blast-o-Matic to start it up. I don't know if that's what the team was going for, but if so, wow, that's a really awesome subtle reference.

I guess I should've watched the Smash Run coverage after all. It just got kind of repetitive after it was shown at the Digital Event and the Invitational.

Any sign of other crocodilian foes?

 

[BowserK.Rool]

If only those guys worked at Retro...I guess I should've watched the Smash Run coverage after all. It just got kind of repetitive after it was shown at the Digital Event and the Invitational.

Any sign of other crocodilian foes?

Well, there's still a klaptrap on the jungle japes past stage from melee.

 

[JaidynReiman]

If only those guys worked at Retro...I guess I should've watched the Smash Run coverage after all. It just got kind of repetitive after it was shown at the Digital Event and the Invitational.

Any sign of other crocodilian foes?

Not in Smash Run, but the four different types of Kritters play VERY differently. Its awesome how much love was put into their animations. (Now if only they can do it for K. Rool as well.)

 

[Pacack]

Fine, I will accept your argument for the Namco props. Even if I still dislike it that improves it somewhat. However; you did not even attempt to defend the accusation of him summoning his mortal enemies, the ghosts.



No, I am not stupid enough to think that K. Rool's moveset being like that is an actual risk. I am saying that summoning the ghosts is as bad as if K. Rool summoned the Kongs. There is plenty arbitrary nostalgia throughout the set with the props without the need for that. This is also the Classic Pac Man, not the new Pac Man where the ghost characterization is corrupted and they're turned into his friends.

Before moving on from the Pac-Man thing, I can see why they gave him all the retro props, since without them, he's basically left with generic butt-bouncing and chomping, but it's absolutely out of character for him to summon his enemy ghosts in particular. It would be like Mario showing up as a guest in some third party fighter as a "Nintendo Rep" and pulling out Goombas and Koopas to fight loyally at his side.

As far as a K. Rool trailer goes, check out that split second clip of DK running through the jungle in the very first trailer. That's the style I think we'd see in a K. Rool trailer.

Well, keep in mind that the Ghosts are actually his allies a surprising number of games. Most notably Pac-Man World 3 and Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures. So, it's not completely out there even if it is a bit unusual.

 

[AncientTobacco]

Not in Smash Run, but the four different types of Kritters play VERY differently. Its awesome how much love was put into their animations. (Now if only they can do it for K. Rool as well.)

Wait, four? I was only aware of the green and blue variations. What other types are there and what do they do?

 

[TitanTeaTime]

Was going to point out that K. Rool fighting his own minions would be strange, but then again Dedede vs the Waddle Dees happens, same with Bowser vs Goombas, Koopas, Bullet Bills, Banzai bills... they actually have a lot of Mario enemies in there don't they?

 

[Diddy Kong]

Missed a lot. Did anything good happen?

 

[ChunkyBeef]

Was going to point out that K. Rool fighting his own minions would be strange, but then again Dedede vs the Waddle Dees happens, same with Bowser vs Goombas, Koopas, Bullet Bills, Banzai bills... they actually have a lot of Mario enemies in there don't they?

Yeah, dude, K. Rool frequently abuses his own minions.

Missed a lot. Did anything good happen?

Nope. Nothing really. Doubt that'll change. There's a developer Q&A coming, along with a 3DS game reveal, so maybe there?

 

[AncientTobacco]

Nope. Nothing really. Doubt that'll change. There's a developer Q&A coming, along with a 3DS game reveal, so maybe there?

The Q&A isn't going to be Smash-related. Sakurai already took a plane back to Japan.

 

[ChunkyBeef]

The Q&A isn't going to be Smash-related. Sakurai already took a plane back to Japan.

Stranger things have happened. I'm not saying there'll be a reveal there, but who knows, man?

 

[Diddy Kong]

The newcomers in this game are lame...

 

[Snagrio]

So I was at Smash Fest, and in the line right before the main demo there was a lady with 3DS with Smash Run. I had my turn with it and guess what I came across?

Kremlings. Kremlings everywhere. I could just see K. Rool there, jumping around under my control.

 

[Pacack]

The newcomers in this game are lame...

 

[BKupa666]

Wait, four? I was only aware of the green and blue variations. What other types are there and what do they do?

This...@WingedSnagret, are there more color varieties? Namco used blue, green, red and brown varieties in Sluggers, after all.

 

[Snagrio]

This...@WingedSnagret, are there more color varieties? Namco used blue, green, red and brown varieties in Sluggers, after all.

I saw green and blue (Krushas? Forget what the blue ones are called). They both hit hard, and twirl all over the place. I think they also punched and maybe chomped at times, but my memory is foggy so I'm not sure.

 

[MasterWarlord]

One character does not make up for a fitness rep, a non character, one of eighteen starters chosen as concept art as an ad, and the worst choice for a Rhythm Heaven rep.

Now, this guy, on the other hand. . .

 

[Pacack]

One character does not make up for a fitness rep, a non character, one of eighteen starters chosen as concept art as an ad, and the worst choice for a Rhythm Heaven rep.

Now, this guy, on the other hand. . .

A: I am joking.
B: Speak for yourself.

 

[MasterWarlord]

A: I am joking.
B: Speak for yourself.

You get to joke around because your dream character is already in. Meanwhile, ours and that of most everyone else is damaged severely by the 95% leak confirmation.

Please continue snarking about how I am imposing my opinion on others as if you're not doing the same thing.

 

[BKupa666]

I saw green and blue (Krushas? Forget what the blue ones are called). They both hit hard, and twirl all over the place. I think they also punched and maybe chomped at times, but my memory is foggy so I'm not sure.

The green and blue ones we've seen have been Kritters, which make sense since they're the most iconic types.

This is a Krusha, which, according to urban legend, Nintendo cannot use anymore, since allegedly, a rapper named Krusha trademarked the name before Nintendo could. This is why you see Kludge appearing in Barrel Blast instead, as well as Kruncha and Krumple mentioned in Kludge's Brawl trophy, but not Krusha.

 

[Pacack]

You get to joke around because your dream character is already in. Meanwhile, ours and that of most everyone else is damaged severely by the 95% leak confirmation.

Please continue snarking about how I am imposing my opinion on others as if you're not doing the same thing.

I was joking on people dissing Pac-Man waaaaaay before he was confirmed. And I said speak for yourself because Pac-Man does indeed make up for the rest of the roster in some peoples' opinions. Including mine. I wasn't implying anything else.

 

[Snagrio]

The green and blue ones we've seen have been Kritters, which make sense since they're the most iconic types.

This is a Krusha, which, according to urban legend, Nintendo cannot use anymore, since allegedly, a rapper named Krusha trademarked the name before Nintendo could. This is why you see Kludge appearing in Barrel Blast instead, as well as Kruncha and Krumple mentioned in Kludge's Brawl trophy, but not Krusha.

Oh, okay. In any case I was having too much trouble with the controls to pay enough attention since the button configuration was really odd. But I asked the lady and she did say that you can reconfigure them, so there's that.

 

[Xzsmmc]

I played the demo today, and seeing Kritters got me all happy. Blue ones have a nasty spin attack, and tend to get multiple hits with their basic punches, kicks, and bites.

 

[Pacack]

I played the demo today, and seeing Kritters got me all happy. Blue ones have a nasty spin attack, and tend to get multiple hits with their basic punches, kicks, and bites.

How'd the game feel to you? I've heard complaints that it felt kinda meh.

 

[Diddy Kong]

If Kritters bite to attack, surely K.Rool would do this to!

 

[Xzsmmc]

How'd the game feel to you? I've heard complaints that it felt kinda meh.

Game felt awesome! Gameplay is great, both versions are gorgeous, and what I heard of the music is top-notch. Only complaint is with the control on the 3DS version. It's X to jump, which is hard to get used to if you're used to pressing A.

 

[SomewhatMystia]

Game felt awesome! Gameplay is great, both versions are gorgeous, and what I heard of the music is top-notch. Only complaint is with the control on the 3DS version. It's X to jump, which is hard to get used to if you're used to pressing A.

I'd imagine the released game would let you rebind controls; didn't Brawl allow that?

Also, congrats on getting to play and good to hear that it was awesome!

 

[Pacack]

Game felt awesome! Gameplay is great, both versions are gorgeous, and what I heard of the music is top-notch. Only complaint is with the control on the 3DS version. It's X to jump, which is hard to get used to if you're used to pressing A.

Good. I'm hoping I feel the same way.

 

[Snagrio]

Game felt awesome! Gameplay is great, both versions are gorgeous, and what I heard of the music is top-notch. Only complaint is with the control on the 3DS version. It's X to jump, which is hard to get used to if you're used to pressing A.

Yeah, that's what got me. But I was told reconfiguration is possible so no worries there.

 

[Groose]

The green and blue ones we've seen have been Kritters, which make sense since they're the most iconic types.

This is a Krusha, which, according to urban legend, Nintendo cannot use anymore, since allegedly, a rapper named Krusha trademarked the name before Nintendo could. This is why you see Kludge appearing in Barrel Blast instead, as well as Kruncha and Krumple mentioned in Kludge's Brawl trophy, but not Krusha.

Krusha was a pretty prominent character in the cartoon, and that just saw a rerelease. What kind of issues were involved with that?

 

[TCRhade]

Thank you, guys. Reading this last page of posts made me relax and calm down considerably.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

The newcomers in this game are lame...

We'll get Dark Pit next and you'll learn to love it, you'll see!

Krusha was a pretty prominent character in the cartoon, and that just saw a rerelease. What kind of issues were involved with that?

I'm rather curious about that as well, honestly. *pays a respectful moment of silence for Krusha while I'm at it*

 

[JaidynReiman]

So the people in the Gematsu leak topic think that the characters we already know is the final set of newcomers. I just couldn't possibly understand Sakurai's logic of adding a Kid Icarus and Fire Emblem character due to sales when DKC Returns sold over 5 times the amount of both games, and more than double the two games combined. (Granted, it came out two years earlier, but...)

 

[Topplox]

So the people in the Gematsu leak topic think that the characters we already know is the final set of newcomers. I just couldn't possibly understand Sakurai's logic of adding a Kid Icarus and Fire Emblem character due to sales when DKC Returns sold over 5 times the amount of both games, and more than double the two games combined. (Granted, it came out two years earlier, but...)

It may seem meek but you do have to remember one thing about the leak. It really only had one character in it that made it believable which was WFT. At this point I have a feeling its real, but really besides that, all the predicted characters in reality were pretty obvious choices.

Yes I know, not everyone is happy with all the newcomers. But you have to be able to suck it up and say to yourself, "Ya I didn't like the idea of this character getting in, but really was a pretty obvious choice." I didn't want Mii's in but I understand why they got in. I wasn't sure how Pac Man would fair because he isint on the same level of popularity as the other 3 mascots, but really all the stars were aligned in his favor.

I am not saying the leak doesn't hold weight, because until they announce another character he didn't predict, he has been right so far, just remember that the only reason it ever did hold weight was because of the WFT prediction. Every other character so far has a legitimate reason for being there. Lets just hope the Top Kroc finds his way in.

 

[BKupa666]

So the people in the Gematsu leak topic think that the characters we already know is the final set of newcomers. I just couldn't possibly understand Sakurai's logic of adding a Kid Icarus and Fire Emblem character due to sales when DKC Returns sold over 5 times the amount of both games, and more than double the two games combined. (Granted, it came out two years earlier, but...)

It's one interpretation of the phrase "characters participating." That, and people are starting to tinker with the demo select screen and have found out that, without changing the boxes' dimensions, the screen fits 48 slots (47 characters plus random), which we already have. It's not guaranteed that these spell doom for any other newcomers yet, but they're still hellishly troubling.

Krusha was a pretty prominent character in the cartoon, and that just saw a rerelease. What kind of issues were involved with that?

Good point, yeah, and he's in Donkey Kong Land as well (which is being released on the U.S. Virtual Console now!). If such a controversy even existed in the first place, maybe it only applies to new releases? I really don't know, but his lack of mention on Kludge's Brawl trophy despite his DKC2 and DKC3 expies getting name-dropped is certainly a head-scratcher.

 

[TCRhade]

DKL IN US VC???

Maybe with that will Kome the King, ;D

 

[ChunkyBeef]

It's one interpretation of the phrase "characters participating." That, and people are starting to tinker with the demo select screen and have found out that, without changing the boxes' dimensions, the screen fits 48 slots (47 characters plus random), which we already have. It's not guaranteed that these spell doom for any other newcomers yet, but they're still hellishly troubling.

That presents an interesting problem, because if post-launch character DLC really IS a thing and not just hot air, where are the newcomer icons going to be? They going to shrink the icons to fit the extras?

 

[JaidynReiman]

It may seem meek but you do have to remember one thing about the leak. It really only had one character in it that made it believable which was WFT. At this point I have a feeling its real, but really besides that, all the predicted characters in reality were pretty obvious choices.

Yes I know, not everyone is happy with all the newcomers. But you have to be able to suck it up and say to yourself, "Ya I didn't like the idea of this character getting in, but really was a pretty obvious choice." I didn't want Mii's in but I understand why they got in. I wasn't sure how Pac Man would fair because he isint on the same level of popularity as the other 3 mascots, but really all the stars were aligned in his favor.

I am not saying the leak doesn't hold weight, because until they announce another character he didn't predict, he has been right so far, just remember that the only reason it ever did hold weight was because of the WFT prediction. Every other character so far has a legitimate reason for being there. Lets just hope the Top Kroc finds his way in.

Believe me, the leak is legit. The leaker came out again and said "Mii Fighter" and "Goddess Palutena" specifically, and both appeared with those exact name. Plus we've seen Rhythm Heaven enemies in Smash Run.

EDIT: Come to think of it, from a marketing perspective, it might actually be better for K. Rool and Ridley to be DLC characters as annoying as that is. Both of them are among the most popular requests and DKC Returns at least sold far, far better than the latest Fire Emblem and Kid Icarus games.

 

[BKupa666]

So the people in the Gematsu leak topic think that the characters we already know is the final set of newcomers. I just couldn't possibly understand Sakurai's logic of adding a Kid Icarus and Fire Emblem character due to sales when DKC Returns sold over 5 times the amount of both games, and more than double the two games combined. (Granted, it came out two years earlier, but...)

It's quite simple: Uprising's characters are his babies and he's a massive Fire Emblem fan. As far as we know, he has no such affinity for Donkey Kong.