King_K_Rules
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I hope there's a DK AT yet to be revealed, be it Cranky, Squawks, Rambi, King Kut Out, Chunky or K. Lumsy.
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If Ellie was made an AT a lot of my frustration would disappear. That'd be mad swag points for Suckerai.I hope there's a DK AT yet to be revealed, be it Cranky, Squawks, Rambi, King Kut Out, Chunky or K. Lumsy.
This ought to be a thing.King Kut Out
I reckon Cranky is a reasonably proficient guess. He seems like he'd fit the criteria perfectly: an important, yet non-playable, character with a supporting role and plenty of potential for an interesting battle gimmick.Cranky
He doesn't have an obvious combat gimmick because his main role in the games is to just talk. Unless of course they give him his pogo mechanic from TF.This ought to be a thing.
I reckon Cranky is a reasonably proficient guess. He seems like he'd fit the criteria perfectly: an important, yet non-playable, character with a supporting role and plenty of potential for an interesting battle gimmick.
I'm pretty sure that in and of itself counts as an obvious combat gimmick. Bouncing around on his pogo stick sounds exactly like something that would fit perfectly into the absurd and chaotic gameplay of Smash.He doesn't have an obvious combat gimmick because his main role in the games is to just talk. Unless of course they give him his pogo mechanic from TF.
Or they could give him his magical sliding rocking chair from the credits sequence to DKC.He doesn't have an obvious combat gimmick because his main role in the games is to just talk. Unless of course they give him his pogo mechanic from TF.
The first statement is sarcasm by the way.Sorry Isaac fans, Isaac appears as a name in random name selection:
Here's the list: Krool, Gumbolaya,Toad, Mona, Ouch, Combo, Kappn, AGGGGGGH,Groth, Isaac, Fanana, Right,Deku, Buddy, Prog, Chowder,Hello
inb4 Krool, Toad, Kappn and Buddy confirmed for Smash.
This video also further hurts the possibility of Mario Bros as a stage. It shows the Fighter Fly as a Mario series related trophy. It will most likely appear with the other Mario Bros trophies (A category we know that exists from a different video).
We already know.Krool is one of the random names when you pick a name in the character selection.
Quoted from PushDustin:
The first statement is sarcasm by the way.
Why do you mention the rap being MIA, as if you have reason to believe it's in the game?So, here's something interesting. The Stage Discussion thread is currently convinced that there's another DK stage in the game, most likely Kongo Jungle Melee, for multiple reasons.
1.) DK Rap is still MIA.
2.) A DK stage is the only stage that would fit into that last slot up top. The Mario stages are split into 2D and 3D stages just fine, so its not likely to be a classic Mushroom Kingdom stage.
3.) Most important of all, Kongo Jungle is specifically called "Kongo Jungle (64)." Another stage follows a similar example: "Mario Circuit (Brawl)."
Technically that means DK would have four stages, but not necessarily. Thing is, 75m is really only half a DK stage; its also a Mario stage.
Also, Isaac reasserts himself as the next most likely DLC character with still no sign of him in the game, and a Golden Sun: Dark Dawn music track discovered on Palutena's Temple. Maybe if DK having a fourth stage pans out we'll get another DK remix? Maybe Crocodile Cacophany? Pretty please Sakurai?
Because almost every single past song from Brawl is in the game. Why is the DK Rap missing? It was in both the past two Smash games. In fact, even more notable, it was THE main song on the Kongo Jungle stage in Melee. In Brawl, it was instead added to Jungle Japes.Why do you mention the rap being MIA, as if you have reason to believe it's in the game?
It's called Kongo Jungle 64, not Kongo Jungle (64). The bracket for Mario Circuit (Brawl) is used to signify which game it's from, whereas the "64" after Kongo Jungle suggests that it's an N64 throwback, which it is. I have a hard time believing that they would through so much effort to bring back two DK jungle stages from Melee when Rumble Falls would have been much easier to port over. Personally, I don't think we're getting any more stages, and if we do, it will be another N64 stage like Dream Land or Saffron City. Hopefully I'm wrong!So, here's something interesting. The Stage Discussion thread is currently convinced that there's another DK stage in the game, most likely Kongo Jungle Melee, for multiple reasons.
1.) DK Rap is still MIA.
2.) A DK stage is the only stage that would fit into that last slot up top. The Mario stages are split into 2D and 3D stages just fine, so its not likely to be a classic Mushroom Kingdom stage.
3.) Most important of all, Kongo Jungle is specifically called "Kongo Jungle (64)." Another stage follows a similar example: "Mario Circuit (Brawl)."
Technically that means DK would have four stages, but not necessarily. Thing is, 75m is really only half a DK stage; its also a Mario stage.
Also, Isaac reasserts himself as the next most likely DLC character with still no sign of him in the game, and a Golden Sun: Dark Dawn music track discovered on Palutena's Temple. Maybe if DK having a fourth stage pans out we'll get another DK remix? Maybe Crocodile Cacophany? Pretty please Sakurai?
The problem is, the only franchises in a position to get a new stage are DK and Mario. And the way Mario's stages are laid out, a returning stage isn't all that likely... Mario's stages start with 2D Platformers, then 3D Platformers, then finally spinoffs. The spinoffs shift over to the next line and are right before the DK stages. There are really no past Mario stages that can plausibly fit into that setup without messing up the lineup. Unless they plan to mess up the lineup.It's called Kongo Jungle 64, not Kongo Jungle (64). The bracket for Mario Circuit (Brawl) is used to signify which game it's from, whereas the "64" after Kongo Jungle suggests that it's an N64 throwback, which it is. I have a hard time believing that they would through so much effort to bring back two DK jungle stages from Melee when Rumble Falls would have been much easier to port over. Personally, I don't think we're getting any more stages, and if we do, it will be another N64 stage like Dream Land or Saffron City. Hopefully I'm wrong!
Not the same context.Hey, remember when we were saying the clones being separate from their series was weird?
What you got? Why aren't they in a weird place?Hey, remember when we were saying the clones being separate from their series was weird?
Well then I'd wonder why they decided to tack '64' on the end of Kongo Jungle. So far everything seems to point towards Kongo Jungle Melee, unless they decided to make a new Kongo Jungle stage, which I highly doubt.What if the remaining stage is a Tropical Freeze stage that, like the Miiverse stage, is still being developed and will be released after Nov. 21?
Side note, it hasn't escaped my notice that Sakurai has spent at least one day on the website discussing the vast majority of new stages. . .except for Jungle Hijinxs.
I've taken the K. Rool moveset I made several weeks ago and posted it to Reddit to get more eyes on it and hopefully garner more interest for him as a character. If you have a moment, please upvote the link so people can locate and read it. Thanks in advance!
Because it's from the N64 era, and the aesthetics reflect that. The reason they don't label the other returning stages is because most of them are graphically on par with what we have now. Kongo Jungle was my second favorite Melee stage behind Fountain of Dreams, so I'd like to see it come back at some point, but this "evidence" is sketchy at best.Well then I'd wonder why they decided to tack '64' on the end of Kongo Jungle. So far everything seems to point towards Kongo Jungle Melee, unless they decided to make a new Kongo Jungle stage, which I highly doubt.
Also, has Rumble Falls been ruled out?
Your idea of a DLC TF stage has made me start dreaming of a Dixie plus TF stage bundle. Why does my mind wander to such places...
The information received came through leaks of people who had the game, indicating that the last "openings" in the roster were the second and final rows.@ JaidynReiman , do you have a picture of the Stage Select Screen to show that there could potentially be a hidden Donkey Kong stage?
Well, about that:
This was a construct made by Vaanrose using all the stuff we had learned regarding stage placement. Miiverse is incorrect (DLC stage post-release) so that's as blank as the stage on the second row, meaning there are upwards of two missing stages on rows 2 and 8.
One possibility is that there are no further remaining stages at all, and that rows one and eight have five as opposed to six stages, but that would force Delfino onto the second row. The rather perfect stage organization of the above conflicts with that, as the Mario series seem to have stages separated as follows;
2D platformer > 3D platformer > Mario Kart > Misc.
This technically debunks any returning Mario stages at all since it would force jumbling of rows, and makes a Donkey Kong stage the most likely outcome. It's unlikely to be a Party stage because a MP9 track appears on Mario Circuit 8, and it's unlikely to be sports related because Mario Circuit Brawl has a Tennis/Golf sports mix theme on it.
The stage ordering itself is as follows;
64 Series > Melee Series > Brawl Series > Smash 4 series > Retro > Misc > Third Party.
Port Town is unlikely to move up to give room for row 3 because its placement has consistently across all stage select screens been between Metroid stages and Yoshi stages, and FZ2 by series order would need to be with Fire Emblem. So the main thing to get is that either it's a VERY off-the-grid/unexpected Mario Stage or it's a DK stage that's either Kongo Jungle Melee or a new DK stage. The fact Kongo Jungle as a past stage has "64" in it may actually be a bit of a clue.
Yes, Rumble Falls has been ruled out. All the music from Rumble Falls is accounted for.Well then I'd wonder why they decided to tack '64' on the end of Kongo Jungle. So far everything seems to point towards Kongo Jungle Melee, unless they decided to make a new Kongo Jungle stage, which I highly doubt.
Also, has Rumble Falls been ruled out?
Your idea of a DLC TF stage has made me start dreaming of a Dixie plus TF stage bundle. Why does my mind wander to such places...
The note about Jungle Japes isn't technically accurate. Kongo Jungle 64's music does appear on Smash 3DS, but so does the Jungle Japes music. Jungle Japes and Kongo Jungle Melee are currently the only DK music tracks from past games missing.I suppose I might contribute my list regarding confirmed/debunked/unknown/etc stages. I built it over the course of the past couple of weeks as information came out. I compiled this, so the 3DS stages have actual track names whereas non-3DS ones don't:
Deconfirmed:
-3D Land: Main theme appears on Delfino Plaza. (Super Mario 3D Land Theme / Beach Theme.)
-Golden Plains: Both themes appear on Mushroom Kingdom U. (Athletic / Ground Theme, Ground Theme / Underground Theme.)
-Rainbow Road: Main theme appears on Mario Circuit 8. (Rainbow Road Medley.)
-Mushroomy Kingdom: Main theme appears on Mushroom Kingdom U. (Ground Theme.)
-Jungle Japes: Main theme appears on Kongo Jungle 64, alternate theme appears on Jungle Hijinx. (Kongo Jungle, Gear Getaway.)
-Gerudo Valley: Both themes appear on Skyloft. (Gerudo Valley, Ocarina of Time Medley.)
-Spirit Tracks: Main theme appears on Temple, alternate theme appears on Skyloft. (Full Steam Ahead, Main Theme/Underworld Theme.)
-Brinstar: Both themes appear on Norfair. (Brinstar, Brinstar Depths.)
-Yoshi's Island: Both themes appear on Yoshi's Wooly World. (Obstacle Course, Ending (Yoshi's Story).)
-Corneria: Both themes appear on Orbital Gate Assault. (Corneria, Star Wolf's Theme/Sector Z.)
-Unova Pokemon League: Theme appears on Kalos Pokemon League. (N's Castle Medley.)
-Prism Tower: Theme appears on Kalos Pokemon League. (Battle! (Trainer Battle) (Pokémon X and Pokémon Y).)
-Mute City: Both themes appear on Port Town Aero Dive. (Mute City, Mute City.)
-Magicant: Both themes appear on Onett. (Magicant/Eight Melodies (Mother), Smilies and Tears.)
-Arena Ferox: Main theme appears on Coliseum, alternate theme appears on Castle Siege. (Id (Purpose), Fire Emblem.)
-Reset Bomb Forest: Both themes appear on Palutena's Temple. (Wrath of the Reset Bomb, Dark Pit's Theme.)
-WarioWare, Inc: Both themes appear on Gamer. (WarioWare, Inc., Ashley's Song (JP).)
-Distant Planet: Both themes appear on Garden of Hope. (Main Theme (Pikmin), Stage Select.)
-Balloon Fight: Main theme appears on Wrecking Crew. (Balloon Fight Medley.)
-Living Room: Both themes appear on Wii Fit Studio. (Bath Time Theme, Bath Time Theme (Vocal Mix).)
-Pictochat 2: Main theme appears on 75m. (Pictochat.)
-Green Hill Zone: Both themes appear on Windy Hill Zone. (Green Hill Zone, Live and Learn.)
-Pac-Maze: Both themes appear on Pac-Land. (PAC-MAN, PAC-MAN (Club Mix).)
-Summit (Music assets were distributed to Boxing Ring and Wrecking Crew. Ice Climbers are gone.)
-Shadow Moses Island (No sign of Snake or Metal Gear content.)
-New Pork City (Music assets were distributed to Onett. Lucas is gone.)
-Pictochat (Music assets were distributed to Wii Fit Studio, 75m, Wrecking Crew, and Wuhu Island. Stage is more 3DS appropriate, and a sequel to it is on the 3DS version.)
-Spear Pillar (Music assets were distributed to Kalos. Palkia is a Pokeball Pokemon.)
-Frigate Orpheon (Music assets were distributed to Norfair and Pyrosphere.)
-Mario Bros. (Music assets were distributed to 75m and Wrecking Crew.)
-Rumble Falls (Music assets were distributed to Kongo Jungle 64 and Jungle Hijinx.)
-Green Greens (Music assets were distributed to Great Cave Offensive.)
-Big Blue (Music assets were distributed to Wrecking Crew and Port Town Aero Dive.)
-Rainbow Cruise (Music assets were distributed to Delfino Plaza.)
-Brinstar Depths (Theme is on Norfair.)
-Yoshi's Story (Theme is on Yoshi's Island Melee.)
-Venom (Theme is on Lylat Cruise.)
-Princess Peach's Castle (Theme is on Delfino Plaza.)
-Great Bay (Theme is on Hyrule Temple.)
-Mute City Melee (Theme is on Port Town Aero Dive.)
-Poke Floats (Theme is on Pokemon Stadium 2.)
-Yoshi's Island 64 (Theme is on Yoshi's Island Melee.)
-Sector Z 64 (Spiritual successor was Corneria. Music that would most likely be used on this stage is used in other Star Fox stages.)
Unlikely:
-Paper Mario: "Try, Try Again" appears on Yoshi's Wooly World.
-Dream Land: "Green Greens Ver. 2" appears on Great Cave Offensive.
-Tortimer island: "Kapp'n's Theme" appears on Town and City.
-Pirate Ship (Most music besides its two main themes seem to be distributed elsewhere.)
-Pokemon Stadium 1 (Theme most likely used on Pokemon Stadium 2 as returning stage tracklists have been expanded.)
-Icicle Mountain (Ice Climbers gone, themes already re-mixed in Brawl and used elsewhere.)
-Hanenbow (DS-centric stage that lacks water physics. Would've most likely been in the 3DS version.)
-Flat Zone (Theme is most likely on Flat Zone 2.)
Unknown:
-Find Mii
-Tomodachi Life
-Fountain of Dreams
-Kongo Jungle Melee
-Mushroom Kingdom Melee
-Mushroom Kingdom II
-Fourside
-Hyrule Castle 64
-Dream Land 64
-Saffron City 64
-Mushroom Kingdom 64
-Peach's Castle 64
-Planet Zebes 64
Should be noted that any stage outside of a Donkey Kong stage and an unknown series stage are technically unlikely once you examine the stage organization.
yeah, i wish dk had just 1 assist trophy.I'm really starting to doubt Chunkygate now, given how no Wii U exclusive ATs have been mentioned. Looks like we're ATless again.
Darken his skin a bit and give him a gold belly as well as a tail and he'll be my character 24/7, I'll literally be determined to be the best at using him and whuping all those other so called pro. players online. Other than that, this is pretty much perfect. Though they should fix the skull on his hat though, make it a kremling skull logo instead of a regular one like in DKC2.while searching for k rool figurines/toys/merchendise i found this image of a kaptain k rool brawl mod,and he fits in smash so well. and this is low quality,imagine how he would look when its official.
Perhaps they fall under the embargo?I'm really starting to doubt Chunkygate now, given how no Wii U exclusive ATs have been mentioned. Looks like we're ATless again.
I realized I may be the last person who didn't get an initiation video, even though I am on the list of K. Rool supporters.I joined the supporters before that was the thing we did to new supporters.
So I never got one.
I like him because DK deserve more reps, and he represents a time when Donkey Kong Country and Rare were alive. It's quite disappointing that he hasn't been in anymore DKC games :/While I can't claim to know what reason @ Magikarpow has for declaring K. Rool as his most wanted, I don't find it unusual. There are plenty of reasons people may support characters even if they haven't played their games. Perhaps they know a bit about the character and really like them, perhaps they think that the character has a lot of potential as a Smash character and would be fun to play as, or perhaps they recognize that the character in question is beloved by many and wish to see that character included for their sake. To put it simply, I don't think it's necessary to play a character's game to support the character.
Dixie would be more known overall now due to appearing in a recent game. Most of the younger generation whose first console was the Wii would have never played a K Rool game.I like him because DK deserve more reps, and he represents a time when Donkey Kong Country and Rare were alive. It's quite disappointing that he hasn't been in anymore DKC games :/
King K. Rool has huge moveset potential and is well known by Donkey Kong fans, arguably better than Dixie. Dixie also has a limited moveset, whereas King K. Rool has a huge moveset.
Plus, every big series needs their antagonist... where's the K. Rool?!
I said arguably. Plus, DKC: Tropical Freeze has sold just about 0.75 mil copies so she really isn't all that popular yet.Dixie would be more known overall now due to appearing in a recent game. Most of the younger generation whose first console was the Wii would have never played a K Rool game.
Not true, both Barrel blast and Mario Super Sluggers had the king, and the latter had good popularity, he was also in king of swing and jungle climber(GBA and DS)Dixie would be more known overall now due to appearing in a recent game. Most of the younger generation whose first console was the Wii would have never played a K Rool game.
Not to mention VC titles.Not true, both Barrel blast and Mario Super Sluggers had the king, and the latter had good popularity, he was also in king of swing and jungle climber(GBA and DS)
He may not have been in a main game, but anyone who came in on the wii would know him loosely
With the fact that Chunky's literal only appearances in games is as a playable in DK64, a cameo in DKC3 for GBA, and as a sticker in Brawl, I never really expected it. Which is a darn shame, really, he was always my favorite Kong. :/I'm really starting to doubt Chunkygate now, given how no Wii U exclusive ATs have been mentioned. Looks like we're ATless again.
I find it baffling that Lanky and Tiny are playable in Barrel Blast and have trophies in Brawl and yet Chunky isn't in both cases. It doesn't make sense at all. Are they trying to push Chunky aside?With the fact that Chunky's literal only appearances in games is as a playable in DK64, a cameo in DKC3 for GBA, and as a sticker in Brawl, I never really expected it. Which is a darn shame, really, he was always my favorite Kong. :/