K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: PM BKupa666 for an Invite to the New K. Rool Thread

[KingZing]

Just a little image that I've found to keep up the hope:

Spoiler

King K Rool confirmed ;-)

GAAAH, at first I only read the "King K Rool confirmed" part and thought it was for real! I almost had a heart attack! Then I opened the spoiler...

Hopefully, soon it will be true, soon...

 

[ChronoBound]

I think a DK newcomer is definitely overdue and deserving. However, would K. Rool fans here be upset if Dixie Kong got in over him? Personally, I would be fine with either one. They are both equally deserving in my opinion.

 

[The Legendary Beast]

I think a DK newcomer is definitely overdue and deserving. However, would K. Rool fans here be upset if Dixie Kong got in over him? Personally, I would be fine with either one. They are both equally deserving in my opinion.

They are both equally deserving in my eyes, I would just vastly prefer K.Rool since he's a DK character that's not a Kong. If we get Dixie I'll be disappointed that it wasn't K.Rool, but I'll just be happy that DK got some love.

 

[BKupa666]

K. Rool > Dixie > Nothing

DK being starved for content doesn't mean I'll be "fine" with just anything bearing a DK icon, just like I wouldn't be thrilled to see Anthony Higgs as a "Metroid Rep" or Pichu as a "cut Melee Pokemon rep." K. Rool should be the priority for the series at the moment IMO, if for nothing else than him being the one remaining element of the series that still needs reintroduction.

Also, can we cut the BS rhetoric about "DK Rep?" All it's doing is creating an uphill battle for whatever character doesn't get in this time (if that happens) when this is clearly a Meta Knight/Dedede scenario.

 

[Snagrio]

IDK why, but I just imagined a Trailer for him exactly like Shulk's, except Bowser is King K. Rool, and Shulk being DK, except this time King. K Rool no-scopes DK with a blunderbuss when he jumps out the bushes and laughs. Followed by Diddy and Dixie twin-attacking as Marth and Link, with the King doing epic dodges before knocking one out with his crown and the other with kannonball.

You lost me at, "K. Rool doing epic dodges."

 

[?????????????]

Although I strongly prefer King K. Rool, I do believe that Dixie Kong is equally deserving.

I could list reasons why I believe both characters are highly deserving, and why I prefer K. Rool, but in the end, that's my conclusion.

 

[Megadoomer]

Personally, I'd be fine with either one. While I'd prefer K. Rool, given that he has more to work with and seems like he'd be the more unique character overall, I've been surprised in that regard before with Rosalina and Pac-Man, so maybe they could give Dixie an interesting moveset.

 

[Hyle "Slush" Russell]

At this point, Donkey Kong has more deserving representatives than any other major Nintendo franchise. K. Rool, Dixie, and, yes, eventually Cranky would all be right at home in Smash Bros., which is the only reason the continued neglect there over third-string Mario characters is starting to bug me as a DK fan.

 

[Wintropy]

I'd argue that both K. Rool and Dixie are indeed equally deserving, though I think K. Rool's got the benefit of being more distinct in his potential abilities, whilst Dixie's got the benefit of possibly being a more "user-friendly" character.

It's pretty balanced, as far as I can see. They both have a lot to recommend them.

 

[BKupa666]

Liking multiple DK characters is one thing, but rambling about "DK Rep" just devalues them as individuals. We play as characters, not as "reps."

Honestly, imagine seeing this in somebody's signature:

--"Mario Rep" for SSB4!
--"Zelda Rep" for SSB4!
--"New Series Rep" for SSB4!
--"Third Party Rep" for SSB4!

Why is that sort of laughable treatment only okay with the DK series? (because fans are conditioned to think of quantity over quality IMO, but that's a different can of worms)

 

[Wintropy]

Liking multiple DK characters is one thing, but rambling about "DK Rep" just devalues them as individuals. We play as characters, not as "reps."

Honestly, imagine seeing this in somebody's signature:

--"Mario Rep" for SSB4!
--"Zelda Rep" for SSB4!
--"New Series Rep" for SSB4!
--"Third Party Rep" for SSB4!

Why is that sort of laughable treatment only okay with the DK series? (because fans are conditioned to think of quantity over quality IMO, but that's a different can of worms)

Agreed. I'd rather take quality and quantity. Let's be honest here, Sakurai's shown that he can certainly do that if he's willing to do just that. Hopefully he's still willing to give the DK series some time to shine. ^_^

 

[Xzsmmc]

Agreed. I'd rather take quality and quantity. Let's be honest here, Sakurai's shown that he can certainly do that if he's willing to do just that. Hopefully he's still willing to give the DK series some time to shine. ^_^

I'd hope so. But I can't shake the feeling that the lack of DK content so far is not because anything is being hidden, but because it's all we're going to get.

 

[BKupa666]

OMG OMG OMG "DK REP"

 

[GunGunW]

I'm also not in favor of adding characters to DK's series for the sake of adding characters. There are a couple that would be nice to have, but I think K. Rool is really the only one I want right now. I don't really care for Dixie as a character and don't really want her to be included especially at the expense of K. Rool, but other people want her so whatever.

 

[KingZing]

I'm also not in favor of adding characters to DK's series for the sake of adding characters. There are a couple that would be nice to have, but I think K. Rool is really the only one I want right now. I don't really care for Dixie as a character and don't really want her to be included especially at the expense of K. Rool, but other people want her so whatever.

Amen to that.

 

[?????????????]

Liking multiple DK characters is one thing, but rambling about "DK Rep" just devalues them as individuals. We play as characters, not as "reps."

Honestly, imagine seeing this in somebody's signature:

--"Mario Rep" for SSB4!
--"Zelda Rep" for SSB4!
--"New Series Rep" for SSB4!
--"Third Party Rep" for SSB4!

Why is that sort of laughable treatment only okay with the DK series? (because fans are conditioned to think of quantity over quality IMO, but that's a different can of worms)

If it were completely up to me, I'd have both Dixie and K. Rool. Why do Mario, Zelda, and Kirby have such fleshed out "series rosters" that cover all their main characters (with excess in Mario's case), and we're missing that for Donkey Kong?

I'm not trying to go about this in a sense of "DK repping," but rather that I believe Dixie and K. Rool are highly qualified characters as far as "missing SSB characters" go, from the standpoint of including Nintendo's greatest icons.

That's my stance for this particular scenario. I'd like to see Dixie and K. Rool, and I can't logically plunk out one over the other, although I personally prefer K. Rool.

 

[Zombie Saurian]

OMG OMG OMG "DK REP"

I have nothing to say. I'm confused why they put the Spider in and not K. Rool...but...is this real? It looks identical to this
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120202233127/donkeykong/images/f/f9/Squitter.jpg

 

[Xzsmmc]

I have nothing to say. I'm confused why they put the Spider in and not K. Rool...but...is this real? It looks identical to this
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120202233127/donkeykong/images/f/f9/Squitter.jpg

Of course not. He was trying to prove a point.

 

[Zombie Saurian]

Well I feelz dumb.

 

[BKupa666]

If it were completely up to me, I'd have both Dixie and K. Rool. Why do Mario, Zelda, and Kirby have such fleshed out "series rosters" that cover all their main characters (with excess in Mario's case), and we're missing that for Donkey Kong?

I'm not trying to go about this in a sense of "DK repping," but rather that I believe Dixie and K. Rool are highly qualified characters as far as "missing SSB characters" go, from the standpoint of including Nintendo's greatest icons.

That's my stance for this particular scenario. I'd like to see Dixie and K. Rool, and I can't logically plunk out one over the other, although I personally prefer K. Rool.

Understood, certainly wasn't pointing fingers at you or anything. The term "rep" as it's commonly used just comes off as treating the characters as secondary to the icon they're under. This gives off the impression that the characters themselves aren't really that great or important, and can be ignored so long as the series gets "repping" with stages or items or whatever.

Also, that photo was made by Cameron over at DK Vine, and I'd have posted it regardless of the current discussion at hand.

 

[Johnknight1]

Liking multiple DK characters is one thing, but rambling about "DK Rep" just devalues them as individuals. We play as characters, not as "reps."

Honestly, imagine seeing this in somebody's signature:

--"Mario Rep" for SSB4!
--"Zelda Rep" for SSB4!
--"New Series Rep" for SSB4!
--"Third Party Rep" for SSB4!

Why is that sort of laughable treatment only okay with the DK series? (because fans are conditioned to think of quantity over quality IMO, but that's a different can of worms)

THANK YOU!!! I've stated this for nearly a decade, and finally people are agreeing with me.

Robin isn't a great addition to the roster because he's a "Fire Emblem rep". He's a great addition because he looks freaking unique, cool, and has a different and very functional skillset, moveset, and playstyle that makes you WANT TO PLAY THE GAME MORE!!!

We should want characters to play as them or against them. I personally want characters that I can play as or against 10 years down the road and still get hyped over it. Most of the previous games' rosters have done this for me, and I can't see K. Rool not doing this if he's a newcomer. That's why I freaking want him LIKE CRAZY KRAZY!!!

 

[BKupa666]

Uh oh, guys, I think this one's starting to look legit. . .

 

[Klaww]

Ridley fans are being told to just play as Charizard.

Worst comes to worst, we can too I guess.

 

[Johnknight1]

^^^^^ Those colors are nearly jacked from Project M, lol. Project M Charizard has a green color like that (Tyranitar), a purple color like that (either the Aerodactyl or the Golbat color), although it doesn't have a white color like that (as far as I remember).

K. Rool AND Dixie > K. Rool > Dixie > Nothing

Fixed!

Also, can we cut the BS rhetoric about "DK Rep?" All it's doing is creating an uphill battle for whatever character doesn't get in this time (if that happens) when this is clearly a Meta Knight/Dedede scenario.

"muh reps", "muh sales", "muh recencuy" aren't things, or at least shouldn't be.

We shouldn't act like they are. Modern characters add a modern feel to the roster, retro characters add a retro feel to the roster, and classic characters add a classic feel to the roster. K. Rool mostly adds the latter with some of the 2nd.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

I'm just surprised that at this point, we don't know in what form K. Rool would appear in Smash 4 at this point. You think at the very least, if he had a non-Trophy role, he would be one of the characters shown or at least alluded to considering the return of the Kremlings and his general notability within the DK series. I mean, what's up with that? Where is K. Rool?

 

[SuperiorYoshi87]

I'm just surprised that at this point, we don't know in what form K. Rool would appear in Smash 4 at this point. You think at the very least, if he had a non-Trophy role, he would be one of the characters shown or at least alluded to considering the return of the Kremlings and his general notability within the DK series. I mean, what's up with that? Where is K. Rool?

It's a good question indeed, I wonder if we will get any explanation as to why he wasn't included if he isn't in

 

[Xzsmmc]

I'm just surprised that at this point, we don't know in what form K. Rool would appear in Smash 4 at this point. You think at the very least, if he had a non-Trophy role, he would be one of the characters shown or at least alluded to considering the return of the Kremlings and his general notability within the DK series. I mean, what's up with that? Where is K. Rool?

No idea, but I'm praying he doesn't end up as a boss. That's the worst case scenario imo.

 

[MrHomelessHobo]

Chunky Kong < King k rool < dixie kong < bluster kong < nothing

 

[Dre89]

Liking multiple DK characters is one thing, but rambling about "DK Rep" just devalues them as individuals. We play as characters, not as "reps."

Honestly, imagine seeing this in somebody's signature:

--"Mario Rep" for SSB4!
--"Zelda Rep" for SSB4!
--"New Series Rep" for SSB4!
--"Third Party Rep" for SSB4!

Why is that sort of laughable treatment only okay with the DK series? (because fans are conditioned to think of quantity over quality IMO, but that's a different can of worms)

We refer to them as reps because the roster is determined partially by proportionate representation. When a character like Diddy gets in, it's because they decided that DK could do with another rep, and thus they added Diddy.

Rep slots come before character potential. They draw up a rough idea of how many slots each franchise will get and then select characters accordingly. Otherwise there'd be an enormous imbalance, as you could make an entire roster with just Pokemon for example.

The reason why people think K. Rool is likely is because DK has no new rep. If DK already had Dixie and Funky revealed no one would expect K. Rool, because despite his clear appeal as a character and moveset potential, the allocated DK slots would have already been filled.

 

[BKupa666]

We refer to them as reps because the roster is determined partially by proportionate representation. When a character like Diddy gets in, it's because they decided that DK could do with another rep, and thus they added Diddy.

Rep slots come before character potential. They draw up a rough idea of how many slots each franchise will get and then select characters accordingly. Otherwise there'd be an enormous imbalance, as you could make an entire roster with just Pokemon for example.

The reason why people think K. Rool is likely is because DK has no new rep. If DK already had Dixie and Funky revealed no one would expect K. Rool, because despite his clear appeal as a character and moveset potential, the allocated DK slots would have already been filled.

That's just fundamentally false. Sakurai has gone over his decision-making process for adding newcomers many times. He considers characters on an individual basis regardless of series based on factors like uniqueness or popularity, occasionally penciling in a spot for revolving door one-off from Pokemon or Fire Emblem. He does not sit down and go:

"Time to make a newcomer list! I think we need a Mario Rep, a Mario Rep, a New Series Rep, a New Series Rep, a New Series Rep, a Kid Icarus Rep, a Pokemon Rep, a DK Rep, a Clone Rep, a Third Party Rep, and a Third Party Rep. What a great list of unique and colorful characters!"

Because he "strives for a balance that will satisfy fans of all series [except DK]," as a general rule, the more characters a series has, the less likely they are to get more characters, with more flexibility granted to the larger series, which are naturally more popular. But the idea of "Reps" has been shot down time and time again by multiple series getting multiple characters in each Smash game to date, and yet people insist on digging up its corpse and flailing it around as if it remotely means anything. It doesn't.

 

[AustarusIV]

This might be my last post here, but I just want to say that my biggest regret is not participating in this thread as often as most of you people have. Dixie and K. Rool are both characters that I really, really, want to see playable in this series, and if it turns out that neither of them are in the game, then I don't think I could ever forgive Sakurai for that.

It's going to be one hell of a ride, and I'm going to hope for the best.

 

[Xzsmmc]

Y'know, I've been studying this evidence again for whatever reason, and something just hit me.

Neo Zero says that it's not final, but he was pretty suspicious about what that meant. Is it possible that it's all we're getting now, but there will be Wii U exclusive characters, that'll end up as free 3DS DLC, similar to what Johnknight is saying? Could that explain K. Rool's current absence?

 

[BowserK.Rool]

I think this will be my last post on here too until after friday. I'll just say this, as much as I want K. Rool to be revealed that day, chances are if we are going to get any of the big 3 revealed it'll either be Ridley or Mewtwo(which I would also be fine with). Unfortantley I'm likely counting on seeing the characters already leaked like DHD, Bowser Jr.(he's ok though I'll admit), Dr. Mario and the god awful Dark Pit to be revealed alongside veterans such as Ganondorf and Wario, I don't want it but being the way Sakurai is, it's likely what we're getting, if not them then probably a bunch of other characters no one cares about. Terrible marketing if you ask me Mr. Suckarai. but hey as his defendants have said, it's his game so whatever. The reason I am being very pessimistic about this is so I can hope to be wrong when the time comes in 2 days and if I'm not then well, at least I won't feel "AS" disappointed as much.

 

[Richard 89]

^ I probably won't be posting much, like usual but i'll be checking up on the thread for any new messages.

 

[Roxas215]

Y'know, I've been studying this evidence again for whatever reason, and something just hit me.

Neo Zero says that it's not final, but he was pretty suspicious about what that meant. Is it possible that it's all we're getting now, but there will be Wii U exclusive characters, that'll end up as free 3DS DLC, similar to what Johnknight is saying? Could that explain K. Rool's current absence?

How would Neo Zero have any knoweldge on future plans for a game that doesn't even have a release date? Whatever he meant he's referring to info he got that pretains to the 3ds verison.

 

[Xzsmmc]

How would Neo Zero have any knoweldge on future plans for a game that doesn't even have a release date? Whatever he meant he's referring to info he got that pretains to the 3ds verison.

Could have been from whatever source he had.

 

[JabbatheHutt]

I think a DK newcomer is definitely overdue and deserving. However, would K. Rool fans here be upset if Dixie Kong got in over him? Personally, I would be fine with either one. They are both equally deserving in my opinion.

I would.

K Rool has so much more move set potential.

Dixie is just another monkey.

 

[JaidynReiman]

I would.

K Rool has so much more move set potential.

Dixie is just another monkey.

I hate this argument. K. Rool and Dixie both have just as much potential as one another. Dixie has lots of very acrobatic moves, especially her iconic ponytail whirl. K. Rool has all of his boss battles to go through with plenty of potential for using electrical charges, blunderbuss as a central mechanic, Krown throw. BOTH have massive potential.

K. Rool just deserves it more...

 

[BKupa666]

I hate this argument. K. Rool and Dixie both have just as much potential as one another. Dixie has lots of very acrobatic moves, especially her iconic ponytail whirl. K. Rool has all of his boss battles to go through with plenty of potential for using electrical charges, blunderbuss as a central mechanic, Krown throw. BOTH have massive potential.

K. Rool just deserves it more...

Shh, anyone who has a preference is an evil, delusional "hater" who deserves to be badmouthed in other threads.

 

[MrHomelessHobo]

Anyways, everyone knows Sakarui is biased as ****.
It would not surprise me if we don't get a new Metroid or DK rep this game because Sakarui would rather there be 13 kid icarus enemies and items and a nice sexy stripper pole dance for palatuana.



I'm not ****ing joking about this http://i.imgur.com/Qf16whK.jpg