K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: PM BKupa666 for an Invite to the New K. Rool Thread

[Snagrio]

Or make it like that one episode of donkey kong where he refused to talk to his soldiers and said No calls! no reports! no nothing! and then they bring up mac and he comes down really pissed

Also the Direct tonight will technically be tomorrow in Europe and such, so watch him somehow be confirmed tomorrow which would explain why he's holding off all news, calls, and tyranny for today.

 

[Raxxel]

This.

Let me further add that the leaks and rumors threads in general are fueled by a heavy amount of personal bias. Any leaks that don't contain Ridley are combined with leaks that do (as they don't conflict) as to make him relevant to the leak. Any leaks that don't contain Shulk aren't even discussed.

I have no problem with Shulk or Ridley and would love to see both but there's isn't anymore evidence at this point for them as there is for any other heavily wanted character. The rumor thread sees what they want to see.

Also, one more thing that really smashes this leak to bits is that Sakurai has stated that he doesn't like alts that change the character. Bowser Junior having seven alts that do just that sounds insanely ridiculous. Also, as much as I liked playing Dr. Mario in Melee, I can see that he is a Mario clone and should be nothing more than an alt. The only other option is giving Mario Dr. Mario's stats, or (pfffttttt) replacing Mario with Dr. Mario. This leak is so clearly fake that the Crystal Coconut is harder to see through.

 

[Briokinho]

This.

Let me further add that the leaks and rumors threads in general are fueled by a heavy amount of personal bias. Any leaks that don't contain Ridley are combined with leaks that do (as they don't conflict) as to make him relevant to the leak. Any leaks that don't contain Shulk aren't even discussed.

I have no problem with Shulk or Ridley and would love to see both but there's isn't anymore evidence at this point for them as there is for any other heavily wanted character. The rumor thread sees what they want to see.

I addressed this a few pages back. Every time i see a roster there and see Dixie and no K. Rool with the reasoning that he didn't appear in any leaks i die a bit on the inside. Not that i don't want both, but almost that entire sub-forum is biased, taking any leak that has their favorite character as 100% legit info.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Also, one more thing that really smashes this leak to bits is that Sakurai has stated that he doesn't like alts that change the character. Bowser Junior having seven alts that do just that sounds insanely ridiculous. Also, as much as I liked playing Dr. Mario in Melee, I can see that he is a Mario clone and should be nothing more than an alt. The only other option is giving Mario Dr. Mario's stats, or (pfffttttt) replacing Mario with Dr. Mario. This leak is so clearly fake that the Crystal Coconut is harder to see through.

Actually, Sakurai debunked that with this game already. It doesn't matter if a character's name is different, they can still be an alt. That might've been Sakurai's theory at one point, but not anymore.

I addressed this a few pages back. Every time i see a roster there and see Dixie and no K. Rool with the reasoning that he didn't appear in any leaks i die a bit on the inside. Not that i don't want both, but almost that entire sub-forum is biased, taking any leak that has their favorite character as 100% legit info.

Pretty much this, exactly. I take all leaks as false, even if it has all my most wanted characters in it. Its not about the leaks themselves, its about the fact that people had to MAKE UP those leaks.

 

[SuperiorYoshi87]

I addressed this a few pages back. Every time i see a roster there and see Dixie and no K. Rool with the reasoning that he didn't appear in any leaks i die a bit on the inside. Not that i don't want both, but almost that entire sub-forum is biased, taking any leak that has their favorite character as 100% legit info.

Absolutely, until a legitimate picture leak comes out we don't know who's in, who's cut, who's secret, we know next to nothing. Leaks of Nintendo employees, game testers, etc. leaking info is getting old. Old leakers to my knowledge never told anyone ANYTHING about themselves. I don't know how the entire leaks and rumors thread will throw one leak away due to a person talking to much but will count another where someone says "hi I'm a game tester and I tested SSB4" just cause it includes a fan favorite......

Leaks are fake until proven otherwise in my mind. No one knows the roster aside from Sakurai of course and maybe some higher ups. We HOPE King K. Rool will be there, we HOPE Ridley will be there, we HOPE Shulk will be there but we don't know. It's fun to speculate and im all for it, I love discussing but it's hard to discuss when your opinion is attacked constantly cause you disagree with a leak.

But I think were gettin off topic we should go back to more K.Rool discussing lest we may get a warning

 

[TCRhade]

If K. Rool isn't in this roster, it means he's just too good for Smash.

 

[lelelelelel]

 

[FinalStarmen]

Before this discussion ends, I say this with cautionary wariness to the K. Rool fan-base, stay away from the dreadful General Rumors and Leaks discussion page. One of the more highly respected community members considered K. Rool's absence to be questionable decision, and the hordes of sycophantic leak supporters hounded on him with aggressive ad-hominem attacks ("You're just a butt-hurt K. Rool fan", "The K. Rool fan-base isn't huge, its just loud", etc.), lest "the best roster ever" should be not considered as such.

I abide by a simple rule - if Sakurai does something praise-worthy, I will praise him for it, and if Sakurai does something condemn-worthy, I will condemn him for it. For the majority of Sakurai's decision-making process, I have praised it. Over there, however, only the first-half holds true for them. I suppose it is not the "leak" that persistently annoys me (the prospect of playing as Roy, Wendy, and Morton Koopa Jr. would excite me) as much as the initial hostility of "leak" supporters a week ago.

Notwithstanding the negativity of this post (which I apologize for, I had to get it out of my system) and K. Rool's absence as a playable character, this roster would still be substantially good. It just would not be as substantially good if K. Rool was playable.

Here is to hope.

 

[Opossum]

Leak supporters get that way a lot of the times. And I say that as one of Gematsu's biggest fans...poor Chrom.

Either way, it's best to just ignore them and not let them get you down. And if anyone is acting overly jerkassish, report them. That's what K. Rool would do. Maybe.

 

[BridgesWithTurtles]

How I feel about every un iconic character making it into smash over the big ones...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG8jBpNvRCE

Is it sad that I totally feel like Mike whenever something like this happens? I mean, I don't fall to the floor in a hysteric fit, but every time we get a trailer for some one-shot I hardly know about, with characters like Mewtwo, Ridley, and K. Rool yet to be seen, I die a little inside. Or maybe that's just all the pizza talking.

The good news for us K. Rool fans is that the extreme lack of revealed new DK content may mean we'll be getting a large info dump in the future (Dixie and K. Rool sharing a trailer a la Lucina and Robin, perhaps?). The bad news is that this lack of content can just as easily mean there isn't much to show. Given Sakurai's treatment of the franchise in the past, it's not entirely impossible. DK's never been an ignored series, but it seems to have been skipped over in some areas, such as its lack of a newcomer in Melee (which may be blamed on the Nintendo-Rare split), and its lack of an Assist Trophy in Brawl (and so far, Smash 4 as well).

 

[JaidynReiman]

Is it sad that I totally feel like Mike whenever something like this happens? I mean, I don't fall to the floor in a hysteric fit, but every time we get a trailer for some one-shot I hardly know about, with characters like Mewtwo, Ridley, and K. Rool yet to be seen, I die a little inside. Or maybe that's just all the pizza talking.

The good news for us K. Rool fans is that the extreme lack of revealed new DK content may mean we'll be getting a large info dump in the future (Dixie and K. Rool sharing a trailer a la Lucina and Robin, perhaps?). The bad news is that this lack of content can just as easily mean there isn't much to show. Given Sakurai's treatment of the franchise in the past, it's not entirely impossible. DK's never been an ignored series, but it seems to have been skipped over in some areas, such as its lack of a newcomer in Melee (which may be blamed on the Nintendo-Rare split), and its lack of an Assist Trophy in Brawl (and so far, Smash 4 as well).

Well, the only "one-shots" we've gotten so far are from two franchises that have new casts of characters in every game. In Pokemon, every Pokemon comes back in future games anyway, so we know they'll always remain relevant. In Fire Emblem, the cast is different in every new game except for a few.

None of the other newcomers in this game are one-shots, and there's a high chance of both Robin and Lucina appearing in a future game. The only legitimate "one-shot" non-retro character that has a chance of making it in is Shulk.


And yes, lack of DK content is a huge boon for DK fans, because DK tends to always have two new stages per game. Lack of DK content likely means they're saving it for a big DK trailer, so I personally do not think at this point that even if we do have a Villains Trailer K. Rool will be in it (except for perhaps a K. Rool teaser). Unless the DK trailer comes first.

 

[Banjodorf]

Well, the only "one-shots" we've gotten so far are from two franchises that have new casts of characters in every game. In Pokemon, every Pokemon comes back in future games anyway, so we know they'll always remain relevant. In Fire Emblem, the cast is different in every new game except for a few.

None of the other newcomers in this game are one-shots, and there's a high chance of both Robin and Lucina appearing in a future game. The only legitimate "one-shot" non-retro character that has a chance of making it in is Shulk.


And yes, lack of DK content is a huge boon for DK fans, because DK tends to always have two new stages per game. Lack of DK content likely means they're saving it for a big DK trailer, so I personally do not think at this point that even if we do have a Villains Trailer K. Rool will be in it (except for perhaps a K. Rool teaser). Unless the DK trailer comes first.

Yeah...I just can't see Sakurai making trailers for all these newcomers, and skipping out on all the DK info until nearly release, and not doing something great for the DK franchise, considering the love he's given it in many small/large ways in the past.

I just can't, and I hope I don't eat my words.

C'mon K. Rool and Dixie, c'mon...

 

[dimensionsword64]

Leak supporters get that way a lot of the times. And I say that as one of Gematsu's biggest fans...poor Chrom.

Either way, it's best to just ignore them and not let them get you down. And if anyone is acting overly jerkassish, report them. That's what K. Rool would do. Maybe.

Nah, K. Rool would just stomp on them.

 

[shrooby]

Also, one more thing that really smashes this leak to bits is that Sakurai has stated that he doesn't like alts that change the character. Bowser Junior having seven alts that do just that sounds insanely ridiculous. Also, as much as I liked playing Dr. Mario in Melee, I can see that he is a Mario clone and should be nothing more than an alt. The only other option is giving Mario Dr. Mario's stats, or (pfffttttt) replacing Mario with Dr. Mario. This leak is so clearly fake that the Crystal Coconut is harder to see through.

That's what the Project M Backroom said regarding alternate costumes.
Sakurai has never given an explicit stance on alternates.
One can assume he's fine with making different characters alternates since Lucina was originally going to be an alternate, but was made into her own character. And the reason she was made into her own character was not because she was a completely different character than Marth canonically.
But I digress; this has nothing to do with K. Rool.

 

[Xzsmmc]

Nah, K. Rool would just stomp on them.

Or kidnap them, and proceed to tie them up and pelt them with comically oversize kannonballs.

 

[Snagrio]

Optimistic K. Rool!

 

[Spazzy_D]

One of the best things about K. Rool in Smash is getting a possible redesign. I'd love a more uniform look for K. Rool, maybe something that would combine the king and pirate looks a bit.

I don't know, maybe I'm way off base.... perhaps part of his charm is the constantly changing look.

 

[MandoBardanJusik]

One of the best things about K. Rool in Smash is getting a possible redesign. I'd love a more uniform look for K. Rool, maybe something that would combine the king and pirate looks a bit.

I don't know, maybe I'm way off base.... perhaps part of his charm is the constantly changing look.

Actually this a good thought, if Sakurai really does embody the true spirit of K.Rool, then He will do a unique outfit for the game, and then have the other as alternate outfits, however in either case he will probably have the crown though and the blunderbuss, though he could have alternate moves with different hats

 

[Spazzy_D]

Actually this a good thought, if Sakurai really does embody the true spirit of K.Rool, then He will do a unique outfit for the game, and then have the other as alternate outfits, however in either case he will probably have the crown though and the blunderbuss, though he could have alternate moves with different hats

How about a Wrestler K. Rool? It would make a lot of sense for that to be his Smash Bros. persona.

 

[BKupa666]

Hey! Hey, you! Go to the 'new' portion of r/smashbros and upvote K. Rool Sings Taylor Swift to Masahiro Sakurai!

The King's message needs spreading.

 

[MrHomelessHobo]

what if king k rool is announced as dlc for mario golf world tour.

 

[JaidynReiman]

what if king k rool is announced as dlc for mario golf world tour.

At this point its highly unlikely. Now for Mario Kart 8? That's incredibly possible.

 

[MrHomelessHobo]

At this point its highly unlikely. Now for Mario Kart 8? That's incredibly possible.

no, he will be announced for mario golf kart wolrd tour 8 as part of the danky kang dlc pack, it includes king k rool, bluster kong, swanky kong, and redneck kong.

 

[Wegenbarth]

Hey BKoopa, check the "show more" sign in Youtube if someone (like me) write the dumb Rool Rare assumption.

 

[BKupa666]

Hey BKoopa, check the "show more" sign in Youtube if someone (like me) write the dumb Rool Rare assumption.

Heh, I saw that. . .Well, when "made by Rare" comes up in the song, people might legitimately think others are still confused on the matter. Good thing Smash will be out to clear things up in a little over a month, be it through Kremlings or K. Rool himself.

 

[InASnowBoundLand]

Ha! I liked the line about the Miis. The new video is funny but maybe a little too angry sounding. I think it may make too many people upset, which is not exactly our goal if we want to raise K. Rool's profile.

 

[BridgesWithTurtles]

Well, the only "one-shots" we've gotten so far are from two franchises that have new casts of characters in every game. In Pokemon, every Pokemon comes back in future games anyway, so we know they'll always remain relevant. In Fire Emblem, the cast is different in every new game except for a few.

None of the other newcomers in this game are one-shots, and there's a high chance of both Robin and Lucina appearing in a future game. The only legitimate "one-shot" non-retro character that has a chance of making it in is Shulk.

Referring to one-shots, I was taking into consideration both literal one-shots and characters that only have one or so notable roles. Palutena is only playable because of her one appearance in Uprising, and I'm sure that's likely the only game she'll be pulling her material from. Rosalina was only really relevant in the first Galaxy, although I guess that she's sort of a player in SM3DW. Greninja I consider a one-shot not in that it will only ever appear in one game, but because it only had one appearance under its belt (zero if you consider that it was added to the roster before X/Y were even known to the public).

Anyway, my point was that these characters don't get me hyped because they're not big names like most of Brawl's newcomers, so I sort of feel like Mike every time a trailer comes around, showing off a character everyone else seems to love but just doesn't appeal to me. I'm hoping to have one or more moments of Brawl-like hype before release, and K. Rool would certainly do the trick. All things considered, I'm actually content with Pac-Man (being my most wanted newcomer), but some additional favorites would certainly be appreciated.

On the subject of K. Rool getting a new design for Smash, I'd rather just have him in his classic kingly look. K. Rool's personas always influence the weapons and attacks he uses in battle, so if we had a Smash-original design for the king, I believe that it could end up feeling "off". He'd either be using made-up attacks to match his new design, or use recognizable attacks that don't match the design. I think that K. Rool should have as "neutral" of a design as possible in Smash, and the king attire fits that role best (especially given that King K. Rool is his name). However, he should definitely have at least one costume.

 

[Xzsmmc]

Referring to one-shots, I was taking into consideration both literal one-shots and characters that only have one or so notable roles. Palutena is only playable because of her one appearance in Uprising, and I'm sure that's likely the only game she'll be pulling her material from. Rosalina was only really relevant in the first Galaxy, although I guess that she's sort of a player in SM3DW. Greninja I consider a one-shot not in that it will only ever appear in one game, but because it only had one appearance under its belt (zero if you consider that it was added to the roster before X/Y were even known to the public).

Anyway, my point was that these characters don't get me hyped because they're not big names like most of Brawl's newcomers, so I sort of feel like Mike every time a trailer comes around, showing off a character everyone else seems to love but just doesn't appeal to me. I'm hoping to have one or more moments of Brawl-like hype before release, and K. Rool would certainly do the trick. All things considered, I'm actually content with Pac-Man (being my most wanted newcomer), but some additional favorites would certainly be appreciated.

On the subject of K. Rool getting a new design for Smash, I'd rather just have him in his classic kingly look. K. Rool's personas always influence the weapons and attacks he uses in battle, so if we had a Smash-original design for the king, I believe that it could end up feeling "off". He'd either be using made-up attacks to match his new design, or use recognizable attacks that don't match the design. I think that K. Rool should have as "neutral" of a design as possible in Smash, and the king attire fits that role best (especially given that King K. Rool is his name). However, he should definitely have at least one costume.

Yeah, I hear ya. Mega Man, Villager and Mac are great, but as far as 'big names' go, that's about it. Some people have been waiting literally over a decade for Ridley to be in Smash Bros. Disappointing them yet again would just be kicking someone while they're already down. I know I'm beating a dead horse at this point, but I'm really worried about the rest of the newcomers for this game.

As for costumes, his normal king attire is fine. But with how much effort is being put into alts now, it'd be a crime for the guy who's gimmick is dressing up not to at the very least get a Kaptain alt.

 

[MagnesD3]

Referring to one-shots, I was taking into consideration both literal one-shots and characters that only have one or so notable roles. Palutena is only playable because of her one appearance in Uprising, and I'm sure that's likely the only game she'll be pulling her material from. Rosalina was only really relevant in the first Galaxy, although I guess that she's sort of a player in SM3DW. Greninja I consider a one-shot not in that it will only ever appear in one game, but because it only had one appearance under its belt (zero if you consider that it was added to the roster before X/Y were even known to the public).

Anyway, my point was that these characters don't get me hyped because they're not big names like most of Brawl's newcomers, so I sort of feel like Mike every time a trailer comes around, showing off a character everyone else seems to love but just doesn't appeal to me. I'm hoping to have one or more moments of Brawl-like hype before release, and K. Rool would certainly do the trick. All things considered, I'm actually content with Pac-Man (being my most wanted newcomer), but some additional favorites would certainly be appreciated.

On the subject of K. Rool getting a new design for Smash, I'd rather just have him in his classic kingly look. K. Rool's personas always influence the weapons and attacks he uses in battle, so if we had a Smash-original design for the king, I believe that it could end up feeling "off". He'd either be using made-up attacks to match his new design, or use recognizable attacks that don't match the design. I think that K. Rool should have as "neutral" of a design as possible in Smash, and the king attire fits that role best (especially given that King K. Rool is his name). However, he should definitely have at least one costume.

Yeah Im tired of these nobodies getting in before the cream of the crop, If sakurai doesnt deliver the goods on the big 3 then something is definitely wrong. However I am currently going to give him the benefit of the doubt since he is being so damn secretive. He says that there are newcomers who only a few people know about in the treehouse, I kind of feel Ridley and K. Rool and hell even mewtwo may be the one's he is keeping super hidden. I hope so for his sake, I just cant get truly hype at the likes of palutena or wii fit trainer....

 

[Xzsmmc]

Yeah Im tired of these nobodies getting in before the cream of the crop, If sakurai doesnt deliver the goods on the big 3 then something is definitely wrong. However I am currently going to give him the benefit of the doubt since he is being so damn secretive. He says that there are newcomers who only a few people know about in the treehouse, I kind of feel Ridley and K. Rool and hell even mewtwo may be the one's he is keeping super hidden. I hope so for his sake, I just cant get truly hype at the likes of palutena or wii fit trainer....

If it makes you feel better, the 'big three' all have something going for them right now:

He's got the that whole shadow thing going on. There's a massive analysis on the first page of the Ridley thread. I'm personally not convinced, but check it out and decide for yourself.

Hasn't been shown as a PokeBall Pokemon, nor did it show up in Greninja's trailer. Was planned for 64 and Brawl. Sakurai even mentioned 'We're thinking about it' when asked about it at E3 last year, after the roster was already decided.

A rather conspicuous lack of DK content so far. Kritters in Smash Run, who weren't named, despite being prominently shown in the introduction of the mode. DK and Diddy already revealed.

 

[MagnesD3]

If it makes you feel better, the 'big three' all have something going for them right now:

He's got the that whole shadow thing going on. There's a massive analysis on the first page of the Ridley thread. I'm personally not convinced, but check it out and decide for yourself.

Hasn't been shown as a PokeBall Pokemon, nor did it show up in Greninja's trailer. Was planned for 64 and Brawl. Sakurai even mentioned 'We're thinking about it' when asked about it at E3 last year, after the roster was already decided.

A rather conspicuous lack of DK content so far. Kritters in Smash Run, who weren't named, despite being prominently shown in the introduction of the mode. DK and Diddy already revealed.

It does but there is still the possibility that sakurai is extremely extremely extremely stupid and thinks these 3 would make "great" stage hazard boss fights (cuz you know Yellow Devil just makes dr. willys castle soooo much better right) exclusive to the wii u version. Wouldnt that just be what everybody wants. I think there would be a riot if this is the case. But I hope that he is not that stupid and am putting my faith in old sakurai.

 

[JaidynReiman]

It does but there is still the possibility that sakurai is extremely extremely extremely stupid and thinks these 3 would make "great" stage hazard boss fights exclusive to the wii u version. Wouldnt that just be what everybody wants. I think there would be a riot if this is the case. But I hope that he is not that stupid and am putting my faith in old sakurai.

Sakurai's not at all stupid, though. He knows what he's doing, so I'm fine. I'm not worried, I'm positive K. Rool is playable. In fact, he's probably purposely saving the Hype 3 for later on.

 

[Xzsmmc]

It does but there is still the possibility that sakurai is extremely extremely extremely stupid and thinks these 3 would make "great" stage hazard boss fights exclusive to the wii u version. Wouldnt that just be what everybody wants. I think there would be a riot if this is the case. But I hope that he is not that stupid and am putting my faith in old sakurai.

Sakurai's made some questionable decisions, but he would have to be extremely out of touch in order to think that making the three most popular 1st party (2nd in Mewtwo's case) characters into bosses would be well-received.

Then again, I'm of the opinion he did that to Ridley, so you never know.

 

[MagnesD3]

Sakurai's made some questionable decisions, but he would have to be extremely out of touch in order to think that making the three most popular 1st party (2nd in Mewtwo's case) characters into bosses would be well-received.

Then again, I'm of the opinion he did that to Ridley, so you never know.

Ridley imo is the most likely at the moment because of all of the secrecy with him but you know he could just be ignorant thinking wow people love these bosses so why not make them bosses derp..

 

[MrHomelessHobo]

Sakurai's not at all stupid, though. He knows what he's doing, so I'm fine. I'm not worried, I'm positive K. Rool is playable. In fact, he's probably purposely saving the Hype 3 for later on.

But what if he isn't, what if Sakarui does really hate the Donkey Kong Franchise.

 

[MagnesD3]

But what if he isn't, what if Sakarui does really hate the Donkey Kong Franchise.

Or sakurai just hates everyone but his own franchises and Kirby, Metaknight, King D3, Bandanna Dee, Pit, Dark Pit, and Palutena get to be playable, but not the big three... humble my ass... if so. I pray and hope smash 4 is where the fans arent ignored...

 

[Xzsmmc]

Or sakurai just hates everyone but his own franchises and Kirby, Metaknight, King D3, Bandanna Dee, Pit, Dark Pit, and Palutena get to be playable, but not the big three... humble my ***... if so. I pray and hope smash 4 is where the fans arent ignored...

To be fair, Kirby, Dedede and MK all deserve their spots imo. They're the 'big three' of a popular series. I agree that DK needs at least three as well though. Now KI getting three characters is what I find ridiculous, but it hasn't happened yet.

 

[MagnesD3]

To be fair, Kirby, Dedede and MK all deserve their spots imo. They're the 'big three' of a popular series. I agree that DK needs at least three as well though. Now KI getting three characters is what I find ridiculous, but it hasn't happened yet.

I know those 3 have earned it. The point is that sakurai better have his priorities straight...

 

[MandoBardanJusik]

Admittedly a Hype 3 reveal trailer would be sick, and fit the criteria, with 2 newcomers and one technical vet

 

[Banjo-Kazooie]

What if King K. Rool with Ganondorf from Hyrule Warriors hair?.