K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: PM BKupa666 for an Invite to the New K. Rool Thread

[SomewhatMystia]

He looks unexpectedly handsome for a giant, bulgy-eyed lizard.

 

[JFM2796]

DKC, DKC2, DKC3, the GBA versions, DKL, DKL2, DKL3 and DK64.

They should just release them all on the eShop after K. Rool's reveal.

I believe DK64 can't be rerealeased because of the Rare game "Jetpack" appearing in it.

So! Today I send my build of my K. Rool mod to my video guy. Tomorrow a demo gets released on Kitty Corp.

If CoroCoro reveals the WHOLE roster (maybe not though), I expect some green and vicious teeth.

I think the Corocoro website clarified today that only announced characters would be in the new issue.

 

[aldelaro5]

I believe DK64 can't be rerealeased because of the Rare game "Jetpack" appearing in it.

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I just hated that buyout because of stuff like this. DK64 is my most wanted n64 game but getting the system and games on ebay is very expensive. It's my most wanted because it's the first video game I've played and I just want to live nostalgia.

That and the fact I can't get all first 3 dkc games. CAN I JUST GET WHAT I'M MISSING?

Not even a demo or anything like seriously.

 

[JaidynReiman]

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I just hated that buyout because of stuff like this. DK64 is my most wanted n64 game but getting the system and games on ebay is very expensive. It's my most wanted because it's the first video game I've played and I just want to live nostalgia.

That and the fact I can't get all first 3 dkc games. CAN I JUST GET WHAT I'M MISSING?

Not even a demo or anything like seriously.

I think DK64 may very likely get a remake for handhelds.

 

[dimensionsword64]

I think the Corocoro website clarified today that only announced characters would be in the new issue.

Do you have a source for this?

 

[JFM2796]

Do you have a source for this?

http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2azuid/the_text_for_smash_bros_on_the_coro_coro_website/

 

[JaidynReiman]

Do you have a source for this?

You do realize that's EXACTLY what they did for Brawl, right? The whole thing was a misinterpretation/mistranslation. They are talking about what's already announced, they're an official magazine, not a leak magazine. The only time stuff gets "leaked" through CoroCoro is when the magazine itself gets leaked early. Basically, they're explaining how things work, not leaking the entire roster.

 

[DarkFoxTeam]

He looks unexpectedly handsome for a giant, bulgy-eyed lizard.

Clearly, our King has a great sense of fashion. He was first dressed as royalty, a pirate, a scientist, and was almost even dressed as a pilot that one time.

 

[lelelelelel]

Pilot in a laboratory

 

[BKupa666]

Heh, this costume talk reminds me of a thread from GameFAQs this morning. The guy was basically arguing that, because transformations are gone, K. Rool couldn't possibly use anything from his costumes, and thus was no different from Bowser in his King form.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Heh, this costume talk reminds me of a thread from GameFAQs this morning. The guy was basically arguing that, because transformations are gone, K. Rool couldn't possibly use anything from his costumes, and thus was no different from Bowser in his King form.

So K. Rool can't just use his other costumes abilities in his normal form? Seriously? Who the hell spews **** like this?

K. Rool's costumes will be alts of him, of course. I'd at least like to see both Kaptain and Baron. If only one, Kaptain FOR SURE. Krusha is ok.

 

[Bravetriforcer]

Quick update, finished my King K. Rool character render!

Minor touchups, little darker, a more refined head, and better shadows

Looks like what you'd get if K. Rool was in Melee.

 

[APC99]

So, I was doing some character icons for some characters...

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...So I went ahead and started with my most-wanted newcomer!

It's not official-looking like the others, but I think it looks pretty good.

 

[TCRhade]

I love me the K. Rool renders.

 

[Xzsmmc]

Heh, this costume talk reminds me of a thread from GameFAQs this morning. The guy was basically arguing that, because transformations are gone, K. Rool couldn't possibly use anything from his costumes, and thus was no different from Bowser in his King form.

I...What? That's like saying Mega Man can't use any Robot Master weapons.

 

[JaidynReiman]

I...What? That's like saying Mega Man can't use any Robot Master weapons.

Zelda uses magic that she never used, Link used them. Robin is one of the closest portrayals to actual skills characters can use without delving into doing things that can be done through reclassing, and even then, Robin can still use Dark Magic.

At least K. Rool is using his OWN abilities. Some people are just idiotic.

 

[BKupa666]

It's anti-heavyweight bias at its finest.

People would never, ever suggest that a newcomer candidate would be boring or shouldn't get in for "just being another middleweight like Mario."

 

[JaidynReiman]

It's anti-heavyweight bias at its finest.

People would never, ever suggest that a newcomer candidate would be boring or shouldn't get in for "just being another middleweight like Mario."

As far as I'm concerned, I think K. Rool should be the "good" heavyweight, the heavyweight who is a truly heavyweight character but is incredibly competent in his own right. He's heavy, but still decently fast. He also has plenty of super armor, so he can't get knocked around easily. His attacks would be a bit slow, but he can use a large variety of weapons and items from his past to trap foes. DK and Bowser have only been getting "less" heavy as time goes on, K. Rool can help to fix the notion that a heavyweight character can't be good.

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

Do you think it would look out of place for him to use his blunderbuss in his classic "king" costume?

 

[Mr. KoopaTurtle]

As far as I'm concerned, I think K. Rool should be the "good" heavyweight, the heavyweight who is a truly heavyweight character but is incredibly competent in his own right. He's heavy, but still decently fast. He also has plenty of super armor, so he can't get knocked around easily. His attacks would be a bit slow, but he can use a large variety of weapons and items from his past to trap foes. DK and Bowser have only been getting "less" heavy as time goes on, K. Rool can help to fix the notion that a heavyweight character can't be good.

Exactly. I definitely agree with this.

Although I think Bowser and DK are currently working on that "heavyweight characters are never good" stereotype.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Exactly. I definitely agree with this.

Although I think Bowser and DK are currently working on that "heavyweight characters are never good" stereotype.

Well, again, though, Bowser and DK have been getting reductions in their heavy weight status TO make them good. Heavyweights are supposed to usually be "slow and powerful." Bowser and DK both have been much more faster as a whole, and not as heavy as in past games, at least from what I'm seeing.

 

[bellboy64]

Well, again, though, Bowser and DK have been getting reductions in their heavy weight status TO make them good. Heavyweights are supposed to usually be "slow and powerful." Bowser and DK both have been much more faster as a whole, and not as heavy as in past games, at least from what I'm seeing.

Well, that's one of the things I'd like to see K. Rool subvert then. If everyone's going to be the same there's not going to be much in the variety. True variety.
I don't even care if he's competitively crap for it. (Not that I really cared in the first place)

 

[Xzsmmc]

Well, again, though, Bowser and DK have been getting reductions in their heavy weight status TO make them good. Heavyweights are supposed to usually be "slow and powerful." Bowser and DK both have been much more faster as a whole, and not as heavy as in past games, at least from what I'm seeing.

From the demo I played, Bowser and DK are just as heavy now as they were in the previous games. And while Bowser is definitely faster, it isn't like he's Sonic or Fox. I personally welcome the changes.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Again, I like the idea of K. Rool being a heavyweight trap character.

From the demo I played, Bowser and DK are just as heavy now as they were in the previous games. And while Bowser is definitely faster, it isn't like he's Sonic or Fox. I personally welcome the changes.

Eh, maybe I was wrong...

 

[BowserK.Rool]

Not to brag or anything but I was always good using heavyweights especially Bowser in melee but I'd use K. Rool either way as well.

 

[InASnowBoundLand]

I didn't make this, just added the Smash logo, the obligatory border, and edited the colors quickly. But I loved it so much I had to share. I found it the other day by luck when looking for DKC pics. I think it's from the old DKC manga.

I hope we get something even half as cool if K. Rool gets in!

 

[MagnesD3]

K. Rool better be the heaviest character in the game..

 

[The Animator]

Do you think it would look out of place for him to use his blunderbuss in his classic "king" costume?

 

[Nat Perry]

I want this guy in. I never wanted him but now I want him in this game. He needs to be in Smash. He is too memorable, too iconic, not to make an appearance in Smash as a playable character. It makes too much sense. I back this so hard.

 

[JaidynReiman]

K. Rool better be the heaviest character in the game..

Well, yeah, he would be. If Ridley is in, Ridley would be lighter because he's a flying character. He'd probably be a lot more floaty than heavy.

 

[FalKoopa]

K. Rool better be the heaviest character in the game..

I still think Bowser will be heavier than him. We'll see.

 

[a Link to the Forums]

One thing I'm wondering is whether he'll be fast or not because fast(he's surprisingly fast for someone with a massive gut)+heavy(lots of power) just doesn't work. I wonder how Sakurai would handle him though he'd undoubtedly be able to come up with something. It's K Rool

 

[JaidynReiman]

One thing I'm wondering is whether he'll be fast or not because fast(he's surprisingly fast for someone with a massive gut)+heavy(lots of power) just doesn't work. I wonder how Sakurai would handle him though he'd undoubtedly be able to come up with something. It's K Rool

Here's the thing, K. Rool's attacks would probably be quite slow. One idea someone else had is that K. Rool likes to show off. He could do flashier moves that are a bit slower in general, but he MOVES fast. So, he's heavy and a hard hitter, but he can run quite quickly. I think he'd probably be about half as fast as he was in DKC, with great jumping and recovery, despite being a heavyweight character. His attacks themselves are what will be slow, so you've got to time them right.

Granted, he'd probably slow walk normally, but his dash would be quite fast.

 

[TheAnvil]

Anyone think that K. Rool could technically qualify as a retro rep?

 

[JaidynReiman]

Anyone think that K. Rool could technically qualify as a retro rep?

No, because his last appearance was 2008. That's hardly "retro." Saying K. Rool is irrelevant is stupid for the same reason, because the last time he appeared was around the same time Brawl came out anyway.

Lip would qualify as a retro rep, even though the last Panel de Pon game was around 2009, because she didn't appear in any of the games since the SNES.

 

[Zynux]

Anyone think that K. Rool could technically qualify as a retro rep?

First, define "retro". What qualifies as someone being a "retro"?

 

[JaidynReiman]

First, define "retro". What qualifies as someone being a "retro"?

I think generally when people refer to "Retro" Nintendo reps, they refer to characters that haven't appeared in a game for a long time. I'd say at LEAST 15 years, or perhaps 20. Lip hasn't been in a game for 19 years except for cameos. Another example, if a character appeared in Captain Rainbow and hasn't had their own game since, they're a retro rep (except perhaps Birdo, as Birdo has appeared quite often in Mario spinoffs...).

 

[TheAnvil]

First, define "retro". What qualifies as someone being a "retro"?

A character not used in their own series for good long while.

Obviously Ice Climbers are still retro, despite being in Brawl.

 

[JaidynReiman]

A character not used in their own series for good long while.

Obviously Ice Climbers are still retro, despite being in Brawl.

K. Rool has been absent for 6 years. That's hardly Retro. I'd say a character needs to be absent at least 15.

 

[Zynux]

I think generally when people refer to "Retro" Nintendo reps, they refer to characters that haven't appeared in a game for a long time. I'd say at LEAST 15 years, or perhaps 20. Lip hasn't been in a game for 19 years except for cameos. Another example, if a character appeared in Captain Rainbow and hasn't had their own game since, they're a retro rep (except perhaps Birdo, as Birdo has appeared quite often in Mario spinoffs...).

A character not used in their own series for good long while.

Obviously Ice Climbers are still retro, despite being in Brawl.

The reason why I asked is because what usually defined as "retro" seems to be nothing more than an arbitrary fanmade term that's hardly defined or agreed upon.

Do characters that were created before or on a certain date count as "retro"? Why 15 years? Why 20 years? Other people believe that a certain gaming/console era defines them as Retro (If they appeared on the NES, for instance). If so, then why aren't Mario, Donkey Kong, Link and Samus considered "retro"?

Or is just a character that hasn't made an appearance in a game in a "long time?" Why would cameos or any other non-canon appearance be arbitrarily excluded, then? Just because? Also, many consider Pac-Man retro because of his arcade game yet his franchise is still active.

Or does it just pertain to characters that have historical gaming value? Like ROB and Mr. Game & Watch? If so, then why do so many consider Ice Climbers "retro" when it is barely historic or remembered fondly?

In short: I really dislike the whole "Retro rep" thing. It's arbitrarily defined (like what character is considered "recent" or "relevant", or the infamous "too big" arguments), and often what's criteria for retro or not is blurry at best. The only relevance I can find that pertains to Sakurai is that he wants to bring back "Old Characters." But Characters like Megaman and Pac-Man can also be seen as "old characters". No one seems to know what "Old Characters" or "retro" actually means, so I feel that they moot as a whole IMO.

Sorry to go on a rant haha