K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: PM BKupa666 for an Invite to the New K. Rool Thread

[WeirdChillFever]

What if K. Rool's Crown Boomerang is a multi-hit attack like the Water Shuriken, where enemies get stuck in, instead of a one hit attack like the other boomerangs?

It would make it unique and give K. Rool a way to lead his opponents in his other nasty traps (gas clouds, spiky cannonballs.)
Maybe you could even combine it with the ability to control the direction the boomerang goes like Pac-Man's Side B.

As far as trailers go, I like the idea that when the screen fades to black after a trailer for a veteran + (clone) Dixie, a cannonball blasts in, making a round hole in the black screen, and then a bloodshot eye appears in the hole, looking around.
K. Rool then completely grabs the screen and throws it away, shows of some poses a la Krusha K. Rool and then:
K. Rool krashes the kompetition!
Cue gameplay and real end of the trailer.

 

[JaidynReiman]

What if K. Rool's Crown Boomerang is a multi-hit attack like the Water Shuriken, where enemies get stuck in, instead of a one hit attack like the other boomerangs?

It would make it unique and give K. Rool a way to lead his opponents in his other nasty traps (gas clouds, spiky cannonballs.)
Maybe you could even combine it with the ability to control the direction the boomerang goes like Pac-Man's Side B.

As far as trailers go, I like the idea that when the screen fades to black after a trailer for a veteran + (clone) Dixie, a cannonball blasts in, making a round hole in the black screen, and then a bloodshot eye appears in the hole, looking around.
K. Rool then completely grabs the screen and throws it away, shows of some poses a la Krusha K. Rool and then:
K. Rool krashes the kompetition!
Cue gameplay and real end of the trailer.

Personally I was thinking exactly this, K. Rool's boomerang NEVER gets stuck on anything, it always comes back to him (unless he dies) because naturally he needs to put his krown back on his krown. :D

Gas Clouds... hmm... not sure when he'd use that. Spiky Cannonballs definitely, though. I suppose Gas Clouds could be his down special. Also, I definitely see his "sucking" with the Blunderbuss his grab, and he can then shoot opponents out of it. His forward smash would be whacking them with the blunderbuss.

I'm not sure if K. Rool would put away the Blunderbuss or not. Maybe he can just always keep it out. Naturally, Kopter MUST be his up special.

Oh yeah, and I absolutely love the idea of K. Rool shooting a cannonball through the screen after the trailer ends! That's ALWAYS how I anticipated it'd work!

 

[Reila]

As for K. Rool's trailer, I am a fan of the "Kredits" idea personally, emulating the shenanigans in the final battle in the original Donkey Kong Country.

 

[JaidynReiman]

As for K. Rool's trailer, I am a fan of the "Kredits" idea personally, emulating the shenanigans in the final battle in the original Donkey Kong Country.

I'd love it, too, but it might take longer. The idea of him shooting a cannonball through the screen at the end of the trailer is a nod back to Kredits without being as long and without being too obvious.

 

[Reila]

I'd love it, too, but it might take longer. The idea of him shooting a cannonball through the screen at the end of the trailer is a nod back to Kredits without being as long and without being too obvious.

True, but if they can waste time with pointless fanservice in Palutena's trailer, they could waste a few seconds with the Kredits in K. Rool's. Unless he is sharing his trailer with another newcomer, then I agree that the cannonball idea would be better.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Blunderbuss could always be pulled from hammerspace for the moves he uses for it.
I envision K. Rool as a heavyweight grappler who uses his crown and throws to get his opponents stuck in his traps (gas clouds with different effects, maybe as UpSmash, Spiky Cannonballs as down tilt)

 

[JaidynReiman]

True, but if they can waste time with pointless fanservice in Palutena's trailer, they could waste a few seconds with the Kredits in K. Rool's. Unless he is sharing his trailer with another newcomer, then I agree that the cannonball idea would be better.

Yeah, Kredits would be awesome. Again, the only issue is it'd be a bit too obvious. But hey, if they want to do all that fanservice even if it is obvious the reveal will be K. Rool, I'd love it!

Blunderbuss could always be pulled from hammerspace for the moves he uses for it.
I envision K. Rool as a heavyweight grappler who uses his crown and throws to get his opponents stuck in his traps (gas clouds with different effects, maybe as UpSmash, Spiky Cannonballs as down tilt)

I think it'll be pulled from hammerspace as well, but its possible they might go the Dedede route. Either way doesn't bother me, and yes, I agree K. Rool definitely would be a heavyweight trap character. He'd have lots of long-range attacks and be fast, but heavy. Just because he's heavy, though, doesn't make him slow.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

I think that a bloodshot eye peeking through a hole after people think the trailer is done is a nice nod to the Kredits.

Maybe have the Smash 4 Logo and information written in the same font as the Kredits before the cannonball shoots through the screen.

 

[JaidynReiman]

I think that a bloodshot eye peeking through a hole after people think the trailer is done is a nice nod to the Kredits.

Maybe have the Smash 4 Logo and information written in the same font as the Kredits before the cannonball shoots through the screen.

This is my idea, using the same Smash Logo and credits information, but replace all the hard C's with K's. It'd be more subtle, because the text would be smaller, but anyone who can catch it knows what's coming, and I do like the idea of K. Rool peeking his bloodshot eye through a small hole. :D

 

[False Sense]

Well, any confirmed character's thread is obviously going to grow by leaps and bounds due to having a deluge of new things to talk about.

Oh no, I was referring to the rapid growth the Robin thread experienced about the time Ike was confirmed. Perhaps you were unaware of this? Not long after Ike was confirmed, the number of Robin supporters began to exponentially increase. More and more people began to voice their opinion that they wanted something new, something that could better represent Fire Emblem, and we believed Robin was a viable choice that could do just that. But even during this rapid increase in support, our little community remained intelligent and analytical: we recognized the fact that the Gematsu leak was outdated, and that it's content could potentially change and give our tactician a real chance to be on the roster. Of course, no one actually listened to us, but...

On a different note, I feel like there are a lot of comparisons you could make between Robin and K. Rool, actually. One of the most obvious is that both are viewed by many as unlikely for some kind of arbitrary reason (for K. Rool, it's relevancy; for Robin, it was not being the "face" of his/her game). The fact that Robin was able to get in anyways is, I think, a good sign for K. Rool.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Namko Bandai and Kapkom.

His "normal" attacks kould also be laggy bekause he tries to show his skills off.
Like his Uair wouldn't be just a punch, but an upside down double kick.
It would be a nod to his overestimation of himself in DK64

 

[AncientTobacco]

How about a K. Rool/Dixie double reveal that incorporates K. Rool's habit of playing dead?

They could have DK and Diddy battling K. Rool on the Gangplank Galleon. Then, just when K. Rool is about to defeat them with a cannonball, it gets deflected back into the blunderbuss by a hair twirl. The blunderbuss explodes, defeating K. Rool. Dixie Kong Spins In! Then there's some gameplay footage and after that the Smash Logo appears. We see a cutscene of the Kongs celebrating with K. Rool laying in the background. Suddenly he gets up (unlike Chrom). King K. Rool Komes To Kompete! To end things off, we see gameplay footage of K. Rool beating the Kongs.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Namko Bandai and Kapkom.

His "normal" attacks kould also be laggy bekause he tries to show his skills off.
Like his Uair wouldn't be just a punch, but an upside down double kick.
It would be a nod to his overestimation of himself in DK64

Actually... I LIKE THIS IDEA! Yes, I do think K. Rool's moves should be laggy to kompensate for his fast moving speed and super armor, and this would be a cool way to do it. Plus, MORE KWIRKY K. ROOL EXPRESSIONS!

How about a K. Rool/Dixie double reveal that incorporates K. Rool's habit of playing dead?

They could have DK and Diddy battling K. Rool on the Gangplank Galleon. Then, just when K. Rool is about to defeat them with a cannonball, it gets deflected back into the blunderbuss by a hair twirl. The blunderbuss explodes, defeating K. Rool. Dixie Kong Spins In! Then there's some gameplay footage and after that the Smash Logo appears. We see a cutscene of the Kongs celebrating with K. Rool laying in the background. Suddenly he gets up (unlike Chrom). King K. Rool Komes To Kompete! To end things off, we see gameplay footage of K. Rool beating the Kongs.

This kould also work very well. Another thing I thing would be kool is in his actually moveset, he kan suck enemies into the Blunderbuss as his Grab. However, if he shoots a cannonball and it lands on the ground, it can be picked up and thrown into the barrel, making it explode in his face. He'll take damage, but the kannonball will shoot back out again. That'd also give him a VERY unique grab animation.

Loving all these ideas! :D

Oh no, I was referring to the rapid growth the Robin thread experienced about the time Ike was confirmed. Perhaps you were unaware of this? Not long after Ike was confirmed, the number of Robin supporters began to exponentially increase. More and more people began to voice their opinion that they wanted something new, something that could better represent Fire Emblem, and we believed Robin was a viable choice that could do just that. But even during this rapid increase in support, our little community remained intelligent and analytical: we recognized the fact that the Gematsu leak was outdated, and that it's content could potentially change and give our tactician a real chance to be on the roster. Of course, no one actually listened to us, but...

On a different note, I feel like there are a lot of comparisons you could make between Robin and K. Rool, actually. One of the most obvious is that both are viewed by many as unlikely for some kind of arbitrary reason (for K. Rool, it's relevancy; for Robin, it was not being the "face" of his/her game). The fact that Robin was able to get in anyways is, I think, a good sign for K. Rool.

And Ridley. Even Ridley is in a similar boat, even though at this point I think Ridley is the #1 mostlikely character, following directly by K. Rool. However, both of them have serious detractors and tons of people will be surprised when these two get revealed (I would've said if, but I think its really "when").

They're both highly popular, but on most people's characters lists no one really lists them very high, instead, Palutena was always considered the mostlikely character, and Ridley and K. Rool barely ever appeared on the "top mostlikely characters" lists most people showed off.

 

[Haydossy]

Add me to the krew of fans klamouring for k. Rools appearance in this kruel fighting game and let his popularity kontinue to grow until he krashes in and we can all be satisfied with our kompleted lives.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Add me to the krew of fans klamouring for k. Rools appearance in this kruel fighting game and let his popularity kontinue to grow until he krashes in and we can all be satisfied with our kompleted lives.

Welkome to the Krew!

 

[Haydossy]

Welkome to the Krew!

I've read this thread multiple times and I'm surprised I've never actually posted

 

[TheAnvil]

I think the only thing that K. Rool has going for him now is that basically all of the newcomers so far have been from their most recent games.

Robin/Lucina - FE:A
Greninja - X/Y
Rosalina - Mario Galaxy/2
Palutena - KI: U
Little Mac - Punch Out (wii)
Wii Fit Trainer - Wii Fit/U (Wii Fit is default, but U is a palette)

Even Ridley (if he's in) is looking to have his Other M design, and the trophy quiz in the Direct hints at a Skyward Sword character.

The only exception really is The Villager, who appears to be based on something other than the 3DS avatars. Hopefully all of the above is just coincidental and doesn't stand in the King's way.

 

[JaidynReiman]

I think the only thing that K. Rool has going for him now is that basically all of the newcomers so far have been from their most recent games.

Robin/Lucina - FE:A
Greninja - X/Y
Rosalina - Mario Galaxy/2
Palutena - KI: U
Little Mac - Punch Out (wii)
Wii Fit Trainer - Wii Fit/U (Wii Fit is default, but U is a palette)

Even Ridley (if he's in) is looking to have his Other M design, and the trophy quiz in the Direct hints at a Skyward Sword character.

The only exception really is The Villager, who appears to be based on something other than the 3DS avatars. Hopefully all of the above is just coincidental and doesn't stand in the King's way.

Going for him? Don't you mean against him?

Because K. Rool has a lot going for him. Kremlings in Smash Run, new villain, original moveset, Sakurai is willing to draw back on past titles, first or second most wanted character, etc. The only thing AGAINST him is that all the newcomers are from more recent titles, and that can be rectified. He's extremely iconic, DK needs more characters, and K. Rool is the main antagonist of the franchise, having appeared in most games in the series.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Captain Falcon has no 'want to know more about' bar on his character profile either. It's no big deal if K.Rool isn't from a recent title.

 

[TheAnvil]

Going for him? Don't you mean against him?

Because K. Rool has a lot going for him. Kremlings in Smash Run, new villain, original moveset, Sakurai is willing to draw back on past titles, first or second most wanted character, etc. The only thing AGAINST him is that all the newcomers are from more recent titles, and that can be rectified. He's extremely iconic, DK needs more characters, and K. Rool is the main antagonist of the franchise, having appeared in most games in the series.

Yeah I meant going against him, my bad.

 

[BKupa666]

I addressed this pages back, but characters being generally from arbitrarily recent games is not really a trend, since the only newcomer candidates who don't fit that criteria are, like, K. Rool, Isaac, and Krystal. Since all come across as unlockable material anyway, that's not really a worrisome sign to me.

The fact that there's no newcomers from veteran series other than Mario, Pokemon, Sakurai's Baby and The Series Sakurai Is a Big Fan Of is more worrisome, if anything, and even then, we still have more to see from DK.

 

[False Sense]

I addressed this pages back, but characters being generally from arbitrarily recent games is not really a trend, since the only newcomer candidates who don't fit that criteria are, like, K. Rool, Isaac, and Krystal. Since all come across as unlockable material anyway, that's not really a worrisome sign to me.

The fact that there's no newcomers from veteran series other than Mario, Pokemon, Sakurai's Baby and The Series Sakurai Is a Big Fan Of is more worrisome, if anything, and even then, we still have more to see from DK.

Wait, Isaac isn't recent? Yet Little Mac is?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the last Golden Sun game came out in 2010. Punch-Out Wii was released in 2009.

And wasn't K. Rool's last appearance in 2008?

 

[JaidynReiman]

Wait, Isaac isn't recent? Yet Little Mac is?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the last Golden Sun game came out in 2010. Punch-Out Wii was released in 2009.

And wasn't K. Rool's last appearance in 2008?

I think the argument is that K. Rool hasn't appeared since Brawl and wasn't in the latest two DK games. Far as I'm concerned its the stupidest argument in the world. Means nothing for K. Rool or Isaac.

Golden Sun: Dark Dawn didn't sell that well, so that's why people think Isaac is unlikely. Apparently having two very popular and excellent selling games on the GBA means nothing. Also, Isaac wasn't a main character in Dark Dawn, he's just a guest character at the beginning. Still, I don't think it affects anything at all.

 

[GunGunW]

I would say King K. Rool is my most wanted unannounced newcomer as of now. It bothers me a little bit because he shouldn't just be added to this game, he should have already been in Brawl.

 

[dimensionsword64]

All I need is King K. Rool. Then I'll be satisfied with this games roster.

 

[JaidynReiman]

I would say King K. Rool is my most wanted unannounced newcomer as of now. It bothers me a little bit because he shouldn't just be added to this game, he should have already been in Brawl.

I think there is a valid explanation people keep skipping. Dedede and Metaknight were simply more iconic than Dixie and K. Rool. Dixie and Diddy were going to be a tag team, but it didn't work, so Dixie got cut. If they had went with just Diddy right from the start, K. Rool could've probably been in Brawl, too. By the time Dixie got canned, though, Diddy's moveset needed to be completely reworked, so only one DK character made it in.

 

[TheAnvil]

Dedede and Metaknight were simply more iconic than Dixie and K. Rool.

Uh. What?

Most people hadn't even heard of Meta Knight before he was revealed for Brawl. Hell, I had Kirby and DK games growing up and I knew who Dixie and K. Rool were, I didn't even know Meta Knight either.

Dixie, especially has been playable, and the main protagonist of 2 games. K. Rool and Dixie are both infinitely more iconic than Dedede and MK.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Uh. What?

Most people hadn't even heard of Meta Knight before he was revealed for Brawl. Hell, I had Kirby and DK games growing up and I knew who Dixie and K. Rool were, I didn't even know Meta Knight either.

Dixie, especially has been playable, and the main protagonist of 2 games. K. Rool and Dixie are both infinitely more iconic than Dedede and MK.

Pretty sure they were. But again, there's also the case that Dixie was planned as a tag team with Diddy Kong, so perhaps that failing is what caused only Diddy to make Brawl. At least Dedede was planned long before Diddy, but either way, Diddy and Dixie were planned to be a tag team, again, it just didn't work out. If Sakurai hadn't spent the time trying to get Diddy and Dixie working as a tag team, K. Rool might've been added in Brawl.

 

[FalKoopa]

Most people hadn't even heard of Meta Knight before he was revealed for Brawl. Hell, I had Kirby and DK games growing up and I knew who Dixie and K. Rool were, I didn't even know Meta Knight either.

Dixie, especially has been playable, and the main protagonist of 2 games. K. Rool and Dixie are both infinitely more iconic than Dedede and MK.

I'm pretty sure Meta Knight was one of the top requests for Brawl, having consistently appeared in Kirby games since his debut. There's a reason he was a part of the reveal trailer.

 

[BKupa666]

Wait, Isaac isn't recent? Yet Little Mac is?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the last Golden Sun game came out in 2010. Punch-Out Wii was released in 2009.

And wasn't K. Rool's last appearance in 2008?

Ah, but then you get into nitpicky BS, not limited to but including "the last 'main series game' he was in...," "the last 'good game' he was in," and "the last 'major role' he had."

Tsk, how could you possibly forget such important, totally not arbitrary criteria??

 

[False Sense]

Ah, but then you get into nitpicky BS, not limited to but including "the last 'main series game' he was in...," "the last 'good game' he was in," and "the last 'major role' he had."

Tsk, how could you possibly forget such important, totally not arbitrary criteria??

Yes, a lot of the reasons why K. Rool shouldn't be in are quite arbitrary. As a result, I see little reason why he shouldn't be in. After all, it's clear at this point that these arbitrary reasons people come up with for excluding characters mean next to nothing in the long run.

 

[FalKoopa]

I could see K. Rool advertising a VC title.

 

[AncientTobacco]

I could see K. Rool advertising a VC title.

DKC, DKC2, DKC3, the GBA versions, DKL, DKL2, DKL3 and DK64.

They should just release them all on the eShop after K. Rool's reveal.

 

[dimensionsword64]

I just realized something.

Want to know more about King K. Rool? Visit the official website for Mario Super Sluggers!
XD

 

[Bravetriforcer]

So Sakurai chose Robin over Chrom because, at the end of the day, Chrom lacked enough unique attributes to not justify him being a newcomer and Robin had so much potential compared to what FE's reps already offered that his moveset just fell into place.

Where does that sounds familiar?

 

[TitanTeaTime]

Ah, but then you get into nitpicky BS, not limited to but including "the last 'main series game' he was in...," "the last 'good game' he was in," and "the last 'major role' he had."

Tsk, how could you possibly forget such important, totally not arbitrary criteria??

But that kind of criteria totally exists! Just look at ROB! He didn't have a game of his own before Brawl since his release but he still had good ones like...
oh, never mind

 

[The Animator]

King K. Rool's reveal trailer...

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=824144514262711

 

[TCRhade]

So! Today I send my build of my K. Rool mod to my video guy. Tomorrow a demo gets released on Kitty Corp.

If CoroCoro reveals the WHOLE roster (maybe not though), I expect some green and vicious teeth.

 

[wilttilt]

Quick update, finished my King K. Rool character render!

Minor touchups, little darker, a more refined head, and better shadows

 

[TerminalMontage]

Quick update, finished my King K. Rool character render!

Minor touchups, little darker, a more refined head, and better shadows

Wow nice work! He looks great!