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K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: PM BKupa666 for an Invite to the New K. Rool Thread

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So, in other words, a chance and want score, correct?

Chance: 50%

Personally, I think it could go either way. Kremlings in Smash Run help, I think, but then there's also limited roster space left at this point. We know we're coming down to the last few (Not necessarily because of Sakurai's comment. It was obvious that we had already seen the majority of the newcomers), and there's the Gematsu Leak to consider as well. So it's hard for me to strongly lean one way or another. But I think K. Rool has a good chance of being playable.
Actually Sakurai's statement all but confirms secret newcomers. He said they're running out of TRAILERS, not characters. We'll probably have at least 4 secret newcomers with 12 announced before release, for an estimated total of 16 (right between Melee and Brawl).
 

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I probably would have pegged him at like 70% percent if it weren't for the leak. If he's not in the base game he's a prime choice for DLC, especially seeing as he would probably sell well. Unfortunately, I could see them making most of the "heavy-hitters" DLC.

Want 95%
He's really the only realistic choice I want to see in the game at this point.
 

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Actually Sakurai's statement all but confirms secret newcomers. He said they're running out of TRAILERS, not characters. We'll probably have at least 4 secret newcomers with 12 announced before release, for an estimated total of 16 (right between Melee and Brawl).
So, do you assume that secret newcomers will not have trailers, or do you believe Sakurai was referring to how there were not many trailers left that they could show before release?

Though I do agree that there will likely be some extra secret newcomers. We're at least getting two more reveals before release, and perhaps three. I find it hard to believe they would only leave one (or none) newcomer secret.
 

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Two quick slightly unrelated questions:

1)
Can I like get One of Us on iTunes or something? What are your Hope and Think percentages for K Rool in the main roster? (Ex: Hope: 100% Think: 35%)

2) Who's the voice of
Expand Dong Donkey Kong in One of Us...
Chance: 75%
He has a lot of things going for him; his series only has two reps, this game hasn't introduced any villains yet, the kremlings appear in Smash Run, and DK overall hasn't had much attention in this addition of Smash, so a King K. Rool could give us a potential stage reveal and a DK-centered trailer (though a villians one would be cooler), plus he's one of the most requested characters.
But then he has some things going against him; Dixie Kong has been more relevant and almost made it into Brawl, and King K. Rool's last appearance was in a baseball game in 2008.
I've also been worrying about whether or not we'll get newcomers not mentioned in the Gematsu leak, if we do my confidence will raise since I think he's one of the most likely to get in not counting those three.

Want: 100%
He's my most wanted newcomer. I explained this in another thread but basically of all the newcomers I'd like to see King K. Rool's exclusion would upset me the most since I have more confidence in him than I do with others.
 

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I'd give K. Rool a 65% Chance right now. The Kremlings have been revived by Sakurai, DK still does not have a 3rd character despite being a really big series, this game still does not feature a new heavy character and lastly he is very popular. The only thing standing in his way is Dixie Kong, which is fine. The Gematsu leak does not include him, but he could still be a secret character or the leaker did not know about him. Want would be 100%. Him along with Ridley are the only newcomers left that can really hype me up.
 

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So, do you assume that secret newcomers will not have trailers, or do you believe Sakurai was referring to how there were not many trailers left that they could show before release?

Though I do agree that there will likely be some extra secret newcomers. We're at least getting two more reveals before release, and perhaps three. I find it hard to believe they would only leave one (or none) newcomer secret.
I think every newcomer will get a video, but note that unlockable characters won't get "trailers." They'd just have intro videos. My guess is the secret newcomers would get brief videos like Wolf, Jigglypuff, Sonic, and Toon Link did (technically Sonic was in the same boat, even if he did do one small thing in the main story).


Two quick slightly unrelated questions:

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Can I like get One of Us on iTunes or something? What are your Hope and Think percentages for K Rool in the main roster? (Ex: Hope: 100% Think: 35%)

2) Who's the voice of
Expand Dong Donkey Kong in One of Us...
Lot I missed the questions. :p

1.)

Hope: 100%, K. Rool's my top pick after all, despite Dixie being my favorite DK character.

Think: 80%. I'm 90% confident in Ridley at this point, which increases my thoughts on K. Rool's chances. Prior to Smash Run it was about 30%. After Smash Run it jumped to 60%. Recently, with me studying and further believing Ridley is playable, plus seeing all of these new references we keep seeing for the DK franchise that seem to be legit (Chunky Kong AT, larger Kremlings as bosses in Smash Run, potentially Krusha coming back), my belief that K. Rool is playable has only jumped ever more. There's literally nothing against K. Rool's inclusion, and DK's massive sales and popularity practically GUARANTEE another newcomer, and K. Rool is by far the more popular pick over Dixie Kong.


2.) Assuming that DK's normal actor is the same as his singing actor, its Richard Yearwood. I can't find any evidence that he has a different singing voice from his normal voice.
 

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Love live the king! Long live the king!



Surely this must be K. Rool's finest hour!

 

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I think every newcomer will get a video, but note that unlockable characters won't get "trailers." They'd just have intro videos. My guess is the secret newcomers would get brief videos like Wolf, Jigglypuff, Sonic, and Toon Link did (technically Sonic was in the same boat, even if he did do one small thing in the main story).
Though Sakurai does mention that they're reaching the bottom of the stash of new character videos, not trailers. What do you make of that?
 

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Though Sakurai does mention that they're reaching the bottom of the stash of new character videos, not trailers. What do you make of that?
Dunno. I suppose its possible not every newcomer will get a video. Or it could've been mistranslated. Its hard to tell.
 

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Meanwhile, Miiverse is spazzing about Inkling, Shulk and Silver.
This saddens me.
 

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http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/252950318

Oh boy, here we go again

Any betters on this being real? I can't because I'm pretty pessimistic now
I'm not THAT pessimistic, but I don't believe leaks without evidence. This has no solid evidence or backing whatsoever, just another troll. There's nothing to suggest K. Rool will be announced, or even a starter, mostlikely K. Rool will be unlockable. I'd love for K. Rool to be announced before release, but I highly doubt it.
 

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Probably just a over-hype sham to let our hopes down, but I must stay optimisstic.
Well, you say that but I made a conscious decision prior to the Smash Bros. Direct to not have ANY expectations of any kind. No hope for a character I want. No hope for a disconfirmation of character I hate. Nothing.

Best thing I ever did. No expectations. No disappointments. In fact I really enjoyed it instead.

But on that note:
Happy 300 pages, everyone!! While I have haven't been here from the beginning I've treasured my time here completely!
Here's to another 300 with laughter and immature trolling that befits us well, okay... me!
(And lots and lots of DKC cartoon clips!!)
 
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Oh, we hit 300 pages, eh? Well done. Let's hope he's confirmed before we reach another 100 pages!
 

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Well, you say that but I made a conscious decision prior to the Smash Bros. Direct to not have ANY expectations of any kind. No hope for a character I want. No hope for a disconfirmation of character I hate. Nothing.

Best thing I ever did. No expectations. No disappointments.
Best post ever. 10/10. (not sarcasm) That's the attitude I'll adopt too, in fact.

If K. Rool might not be revealed tomorrow, then why do I have goosebumps about it? XD
 

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Best post ever. 10/10. (not sarcasm) That's the attitude I'll adopt too, in fact.

If K. Rool might not be revealed tomorrow, then why do I have goosebumps about it? XD
Well, all things considered if it really is Shulk then I ain't complaining. Xenoblade is one best-made RPGs I've ever played and the cast was really stellar. (One of those rare J-RPGs where I like each and every character. There's no squeaky wheel ruining it for everyone else.)
 

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K. Rool (or Ridley) being revealed is literally the best thing that could happen to Smash 4. Ever.

1. Gematsu Leak is proven to not contain every character.
2. Faith restored in otherwise-****ty roster choices.
3. K. Rool in ****ing Smash Bros.
 

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K. Rool (or Ridley) being revealed is literally the best thing that could happen to Smash 4. Ever.

1. Gematsu Leak is proven to not contain every character.
2. Faith restored in otherwise-****ty roster choices.
3. K. Rool in ****ing Smash Bros.
Unfortunately its going to be Shulk. Well, hopefully they're just trying to throw us off and its actually someone else. At this point I think pretty much everyone believes Shulk is in anyway.
 

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I honestly don't care enough about Shulk to be excited. To me his inclusion would be "blah, move on nothing to see". I'm not bashing him, but I feel like others, like Rool, have earned it before him.
 

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I honestly don't care enough about Shulk to be excited. To me his inclusion would be "blah, move on nothing to see". I'm not bashing him, but I feel like others, like Rool, have earned it before him.
Same. Most of the newcomers are 'meh' to me. The only ones I dislike are Rosalina, Palutena, and Miis. Greninja is also a little iffy, though it's more for the circumstances of his choice than the actual Pokemon.
 

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I honestly don't care enough about Shulk to be excited. To me his inclusion would be "blah, move on nothing to see". I'm not bashing him, but I feel like others, like Rool, have earned it before him.
I disagree with this logic. I think newcomers and new characters from existing franchises deserve equal chances to be added. Plus, we don't even know if K. Rool isn't in at this point anyway. If you said that about CHROM, though, then I'd agree. Fire Emblem definitely doesn't deserve more representation than Donkey Kong, DK should get at least three reps before FE gets a third by popularity and sales alone. Not that I don't think FE should get three reps, or that FE doesn't deserve three reps, DK just deserves it first. I love both franchises, though.


Same. Most of the newcomers are 'meh' to me. The only ones I dislike are Rosalina, Palutena, and Miis. Greninja is also a little iffy, though it's more for the circumstances of his choice than the actual Pokemon.
I like Palutena and Rosalina. Well, I'm indifferent to Palutena. Rosalina I think was by far the BEST pick for a new Mario rep. Couldn't care less about Pokemon. Greninja looks like the one Pokemon character I might regularly play as, though. Villager and Pac-Man are meh to me, and I hate the inclusion of Wii Fit Trainer and Mii Fighter (Wii Fit Trainer is growing on me, but I still don't like the inclusion).

I don't like the possible inclusion of Chorus Men, but not because of Rhythm Heaven representation. Rather, I don't like the inclusion of Chorus Men because I feel that they badly represent Rhythm Heaven; a more central Rhythm Heaven character would be a better pick (like Marshal) than a trio of characters that only appeared in TWO minigames in the ENTIRE series.

And Chrom would also be "meh" to me, I'd rather have a new FE rep that better represents what the franchise has to offer, although Shulk looks pretty cool. I'd prefer Isaac to Shulk, though.
 
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Unfortunately its going to be Shulk. Well, hopefully they're just trying to throw us off and its actually someone else. At this point I think pretty much everyone believes Shulk is in anyway.
In february everyone was expecting Dixie Kong due to the fact that Tropical Freeze was being released. You cannot predict Masahiro Unpredictable.
 

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In february everyone was expecting Dixie Kong due to the fact that Tropical Freeze was being released. You cannot predict Masahiro Unpredictable.
To be fair, we have a lot more information this time around. It's going to be one of the Gematsu trio, whether we like it or not. Shulk definitely seems like the most likely at this point.
 
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To be fair, we have a lot more information this time around. It's going to be one of the Gematsu trio, whether we like it or not. Shulk definitely seems like the most likely at this point.
How is it sure it's one of the Gematsu trio?
 

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To be fair, we have a lot more information this time around. It's going to be one of the Gematsu trio, whether we like it or not. Shulk definitely seems like the most likely at this point.
I disagree completely with this notion. In my mind, its going to be Shulk or its going to be a non-Gematsu newcomer. I don't think we'll get a new FE announcement before release. I think if anything both the new FE character and Chorus Men will be unlockable, but its possible that at one point they were planned to be starters.
 

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Unfortunately its going to be Shulk. Well, hopefully they're just trying to throw us off and its actually someone else. At this point I think pretty much everyone believes Shulk is in anyway.
Xenoblade's Director and someone related to them (I forget) tweeted the April Direct and we got no Shulk, so don't count on it.
 

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Xenoblade's Director and someone related to them (I forget) tweeted the April Direct and we got no Shulk, so don't count on it.
Shulk's creator retweeted this one. He only has retweeted announcements relating to Xenoblade. He retweeted the newcomer announcement in the same way Next Level Games retweeted the Little Mac direct. It's gonna be Shulk.
 

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Shulk's creator retweeted this one. He only has retweeted announcements relating to Xenoblade. He retweeted the newcomer announcement in the same way Next Level Games retweeted the Little Mac direct. It's gonna be Shulk.
Great. >.>

Heaven forbid it could be someone new we didn't get "leaked". I had high hopes for this roster... no longer.

I used to idolize Sakurai as well back when I wanted to be a game developer. Then Smash 4's roster happened.
 

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I like Palutena and Rosalina. Well, I'm indifferent to Palutena. Rosalina I think was by far the BEST pick for a new Mario rep. Couldn't care less about Pokemon. Greninja looks like the one Pokemon character I might regularly play as, though. Villager and Pac-Man are meh to me, and I hate the inclusion of Wii Fit Trainer and Mii Fighter (Wii Fit Trainer is growing on me, but I still don't like the inclusion)
My dislike for Rosalina mainly stems from Nintendo's pushing of her. It reminds me of how Square Enix is adopting the "Every time until you like her" policy with Lightning. I also jut find her kind of dull. Beyond vague helpfulness, she never really does anything. Not to mention that she kind of feels like a third wheel for the Mario characters. We had the four main stars, and yet she's added instead of someone more prolific like Toad. I always considered the cast of MK64 to be the big 8 of the Mario franchise. Toad is the only one of them not in Smash Bros.

Admittedly, the reason I don't like Palutena is because I'm starting to buy into the favoritism argument. Why a new Kid Icarus character when the series isn't nearly as popular as something like DK or Metroid?

Greninja is an odd one. I don't like his inclusion mainly because it's...unfair I guess? With the Pokemon Trainer, you had Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard, meaning you could use one form of your favorite Kanto starter. But now, if you liked Delphox or Chesnaught better? Too bad.

Miis I don't need to say anything about.
 
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