Just 'nother Mafia game | Game over, town wins

[Jdietz43]

Your missing the first part of my statement where I said his enthusiasm and attempts to add to the discussion/information, that's the main part. The question he asked is real secondary and probably wasn't really worth bringing up

Alright, if it's strictly enthusiasm then the point ends there at null n dead since enthusiasm isn't something you can measure town and scum on.

Didn't know that was a thing he did.


Not my question, but I just found it odd that dietz felt the need to push the idea of me being a town lean by countering Maven's very slight town lean on Kaladin.

Mmm not really. The point of the question "Why not Koopa" is to get Maven to elaborate by directly comparing two slots that have extremely similar contributions (you asked about someone's meta, Kaladin asked about sometone's meta) and get him to explicitly state why he picked one to say at the time over the other. He could've just as easily said "Koopa", so I wanted to see why he said "Kaladin".

If I were to have said you were town though, why would it have been odd to counter with that opinion?

Do you townlean koops at all?

No, not really. Asking what my meta is is a care-tell, in that he cares about the game as either alignment, but that's the most he's given us so far.

Do you?

Yeah, that's likely the case. Should be manageable since Blazblue Mafia is over.

That'd be appreciated. I think we're all half-waiting on that solid 7th man so we can actually say "Towniest and scummiest" and mean it for the whole cast.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Soup officially replaces karthik_king.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Hi. I'm replacing Karthik. I have tentative thoughts that I will be going over soon.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Initial thoughts on page 1:

Maven's approach to Kaladin is comparatively worse than Kaladin's response. I see no importance by antagonizing Kaladin in such the way he did and the vote immediately after isn't even really all that great if we're even speaking in RVS standards. Kaladin looks more confused than guilty and Maven's whole pressure doesn't really sit right with me. Dislike maven alone for this page. J still null even if he voted maven which I think was a decent one to say the least. Other players who posted on this page don't leave me a lasting impression.

Initial thoughts on page 2 (yes this will be how I format this):

TKK's first post gives me bad vibes, mostly because it's the type of post usually made by a scum who just wants to provide content without having the means to actually scumhunt. I am aware that the day has barely started, but talking about voting mechanics where it isn't even prevalent just seems rather pointless. So far in the day all he's done is make a joke, and now this. Would say as somewhat of a stretch that Cyber's post afterwards wasn't two partners agreeing on a moot point.

Side note: TTK's #43 isn't all that good either. Too anxious for his own good.

FoS: TheKingofKoopas

I know maven will tell me that his first interaction with Kaladin was RVS but I still don't like the means that he is going about town-reading Kaladin for. Lack of assurance and the whole "is it me or Kaladin's post the most townie" doesn't make me feel better about him on top of the fact that he shows hesitance in his previous statements by immediately saying "not that he is townie." That doesn't really make any sense and I'm surprised J didn't pick up on this as it's quite literally a contradiction.

Initial thoughts on page 3:

Maven continues to leave a bad taste in my mouth. He's playing very sloppy and his first post confuses just as much as the one he made about Kaladin in RVS. If you're going to say 'yeah I did all that intentionally for reactions' (which is what it pretty much boiled down to without all the unneeded posturing) then the least you can do is make something out of it. Instead, maven somehow manages to change his mind again in the span of ~10 posts and say that Kaladin is null. The conclusions he's reaching right now do not line up with what he is saying.

I look at J's posts and think: "wow, what a J post. that's something J would do, is make that post." That's pretty much a very sarcastic way of saying that I think J isn't of concern right now and I like to wait see what he does over what he's saying. I will say he seems to be somewhat pressuring maven even if it's not in the same angle I am.

I dont know why mavens thing is supposedly noteworthy. I feel like its just a null rvs gimmick point to get newer peoples gears turning.

The post itself is null but what came out of it isn't. Look at what I've said about him instead of just taking it at face-value. Tell me what you think.

And..that's it? Easiest catch-up I had to do.

Focus is TTK and Maven, slightly town-reading Kaladin and the Cyber slot and the rest I have no real opinion about or I will be withholding it until I find something relevant.

Vote: Maven89

 

[TheKingofKoopas]

Mmm not really. The point of the question "Why not Koopa" is to get Maven to elaborate by directly comparing two slots that have extremely similar contributions (you asked about someone's meta, Kaladin asked about sometone's meta) and get him to explicitly state why he picked one to say at the time over the other. He could've just as easily said "Koopa", so I wanted to see why he said "Kaladin".

If I were to have said you were town though, why would it have been odd to counter with that opinion?

That makes sense. I thought you were just inserting your opinion that I was town by pushing Maven.

It would've been odd because there wasn't a reason to counter with an opinion. He was saying he finds Kaladin the closest to a town lean off the top of his head.

 

[Kaladin]

Initial thoughts on page 1:

Maven's approach to Kaladin is comparatively worse than Kaladin's response. I see no importance by antagonizing Kaladin in such the way he did and the vote immediately after isn't even really all that great if we're even speaking in RVS standards. Kaladin looks more confused than guilty and Maven's whole pressure doesn't really sit right with me. Dislike maven alone for this page. J still null even if he voted maven which I think was a decent one to say the least. Other players who posted on this page don't leave me a lasting impression.

Initial thoughts on page 2 (yes this will be how I format this):

TKK's first post gives me bad vibes, mostly because it's the type of post usually made by a scum who just wants to provide content without having the means to actually scumhunt. I am aware that the day has barely started, but talking about voting mechanics where it isn't even prevalent just seems rather pointless. So far in the day all he's done is make a joke, and now this. Would say as somewhat of a stretch that Cyber's post afterwards wasn't two partners agreeing on a moot point.

Side note: TTK's #43 isn't all that good either. Too anxious for his own good.

FoS: TheKingofKoopas

I know maven will tell me that his first interaction with Kaladin was RVS but I still don't like the means that he is going about town-reading Kaladin for. Lack of assurance and the whole "is it me or Kaladin's post the most townie" doesn't make me feel better about him on top of the fact that he shows hesitance in his previous statements by immediately saying "not that he is townie." That doesn't really make any sense and I'm surprised J didn't pick up on this as it's quite literally a contradiction.

Initial thoughts on page 3:

Maven continues to leave a bad taste in my mouth. He's playing very sloppy and his first post confuses just as much as the one he made about Kaladin in RVS. If you're going to say 'yeah I did all that intentionally for reactions' (which is what it pretty much boiled down to without all the unneeded posturing) then the least you can do is make something out of it. Instead, maven somehow manages to change his mind again in the span of ~10 posts and say that Kaladin is null. The conclusions he's reaching right now do not line up with what he is saying.

I look at J's posts and think: "wow, what a J post. that's something J would do, is make that post." That's pretty much a very sarcastic way of saying that I think J isn't of concern right now and I like to wait see what he does over what he's saying. I will say he seems to be somewhat pressuring maven even if it's not in the same angle I am.



The post itself is null but what came out of it isn't. Look at what I've said about him instead of just taking it at face-value. Tell me what you think.

And..that's it? Easiest catch-up I had to do.

Focus is TTK and Maven, slightly town-reading Kaladin and the Cyber slot and the rest I have no real opinion about or I will be withholding it until I find something relevant.

Vote: Maven89

This is a good post, but I'd have to disagree with the Koopa FoS. To me, it reads more like begining of game screwing about than one of those scumcontent posts.

I actually had similar thoughts on Maven I was about to post, so Vote: Maven

 

[#HBC | J]

Unvote

Wwell I am all for voting a slot but rushing him to L-1 is a bit extreme so lemme read up when I finish my run.

But yay I'm happy we have someone doing something so I am glad for that.

 

[Maven89]

Initial thoughts on page 1:

Maven's approach to Kaladin is comparatively worse than Kaladin's response. I see no importance by antagonizing Kaladin in such the way he did and the vote immediately after isn't even really all that great if we're even speaking in RVS standards. Kaladin looks more confused than guilty and Maven's whole pressure doesn't really sit right with me. Dislike maven alone for this page. J still null even if he voted maven which I think was a decent one to say the least. Other players who posted on this page don't leave me a lasting impression.

Are you seriously taking my post where I said "I'm confirmed scum don't lynch me" then followed it up by saying "quick vote that guy before he has time to think" as being legitimate posts?

This right here raises huge warning flags because why are you starting your case off with terrible RVS information? I literally followed that post up by claiming we should vote J because his avatar was giving me homosexual thoughts. Why aren't you including that post?

I know maven will tell me that his first interaction with Kaladin was RVS but I still don't like the means that he is going about town-reading Kaladin for.

That has nothing to do with my RVS post, and I never said I was town-reading Kaladin. If you know it's just RVS why include it, except to pad it out and make it look like you actually have points?

Lack of assurance and the whole "is it me or Kaladin's post the most townie" doesn't make me feel better about him on top of the fact that he shows hesitance in his previous statements by immediately saying "not that he is townie." That doesn't really make any sense and I'm surprised J didn't pick up on this as it's quite literally a contradiction.

It's not a contradiction because I never said I had him as a town read, that's you making things up

Maven continues to leave a bad taste in my mouth. He's playing very sloppy and his first post confuses just as much as the one he made about Kaladin in RVS. If you're going to say 'yeah I did all that intentionally for reactions' (which is what it pretty much boiled down to without all the unneeded posturing) then the least you can do is make something out of it. Instead, maven somehow manages to change his mind again in the span of ~10 posts and say that Kaladin is null. The conclusions he's reaching right now do not line up with what he is saying.

Soup you're not even reading the thread. That's already explained

I look at J's posts and think: "wow, what a J post. that's something J would do, is make that post." That's pretty much a very sarcastic way of saying that I think J isn't of concern right now and I like to wait see what he does over what he's saying. I will say he seems to be somewhat pressuring maven even if it's not in the same angle I am.

This paragraph contains zero information. You just said you were wondering why he didn't push me like you were or pick up on the imaginary contradiction you say I had,

The post itself is null but what came out of it isn't. Look at what I've said about him instead of just taking it at face-value. Tell me what you think.

I don't think you actually read, and I'm waiting for your response before deciding how to take it.

 

[Maven89]

This is a good post, but I'd have to disagree with the Koopa FoS. To me, it reads more like begining of game screwing about than one of those scumcontent posts.

I actually had similar thoughts on Maven I was about to post, so Vote: Maven

Really? Cause you never voiced them even when people asked you to. In fact, you said

I mean the situation is crap, not that you're lying.

It's a janky play, but not necessarily scummy.

When I asked you if my play made me scummy. But now that Soup posted, you're saying you actually were thinking I was scummy. Why did you not bring this up and attempt to push me?

 

[Maven89]

Soup you also didn't even pretend to give me a scum motivation or explain how any of it was scummy. You only claimed I flip flopped on having a Kala town-read (which I never did) and then complain about my RVS posts.Where's your attempt to make that logical? Where's your attempt to give that a scum motivation?

If this is actually a scum push on me I'll be pretty upset that it's of such low caliber

 

[Maven89]

Woops, my response to the Soup quote about J should be this


"This paragraph contains zero information. You just said you were wondering why he didn't push me like you were or pick up on the imaginary contradiction you say I had, well, why do you think he's not? Do you think that's scummy of him?"

I

 

[Kaladin]

When

That was regarding your **** garden. That, and I wanted to not be on mobile when I made an actual post.

 

[Kaladin]

I appear to have broken the quote.

Maven, would you like me to explain my qualms about you independent of Soup's post?

 

[Maven89]

I mean, for future references you should generally always post things like that

But yes, please do so

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Not trading walls with you, though I will say that your reaction is pretty extreme regardless.

Are you seriously taking my post where I said "I'm confirmed scum don't lynch me" then followed it up by saying "quick vote that guy before he has time to think" as being legitimate posts?

This right here raises huge warning flags because why are you starting your case off with terrible RVS information? I literally followed that post up by claiming we should vote J because his avatar was giving me homosexual thoughts. Why aren't you including that post?

Are you taking the fact where I said that, despite RVS, I dislike the intention behind them? Actions are still definable in RVS, and I disliked the ones you took.

That has nothing to do with my RVS post, and I never said I was town-reading Kaladin. If you know it's just RVS why include it, except to pad it out and make it look like you actually have points?

RVS isn't an excuse, that's the point. That's why I brought it up just in case you fell back on saying 'well uh it's only RVS'.

It's not a contradiction because I never said I had him as a town read, that's you making things up

Is it stupid that I'm currently reading Kaladin's posts as, so far, the most townie? Not that he is townie because there really isn't enough to make that judgement, but as of right now I'm leaning most towards town on him.

You might have not said that you explicitly town-read him, but you're most definitely implying it. I don't see the need for you to doubt yourself in your sentence, and that's a main reason why it's a contradiction. You cannot call someone's actions townie then fold and say 'yeah well he's null.' That doesn't make any sense at all. If he was null, why did you bring it up that you thought he was being townie?

I don't think you actually read, and I'm waiting for your response before deciding how to take it.

I read, and your intentions (pretty sure I highlighted this) are the reason why I disliked it, regardless if the post itself could be considered null. I know you've played enough to understand the difference between intent and content so I'm not sure how you're tripped up about this and why you've decided to kneejerk in the most scummy fashion you possibly could by misconstruing everything I've said thus far.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Soup you also didn't even pretend to give me a scum motivation or explain how any of it was scummy. You only claimed I flip flopped on having a Kala town-read (which I never did) and then complain about my RVS posts.Where's your attempt to make that logical? Where's your attempt to give that a scum motivation?

If this is actually a scum push on me I'll be pretty upset that it's of such low caliber

It's scum motivation because you're fabricating reads (e.g you contradicted yourself) and content, which is why I voted you and said you left a bad taste in my mouth. I don't need a case on you in order to establish what I dislike of you and to affirm it to others.

 

[Orboknown]

So my day kinda got ****ed. Like
Stuck at work for probably a long ass time. If anything changes I'll be posting tonight.

 

[Maven89]

Not trading walls with you, though I will say that your reaction is pretty extreme regardless.

I'm at l-2 from a post that belongs in a dumpster, I'll treat it how it deserves

Are you taking the fact where I said that, despite RVS, I dislike the intention behind them? Actions are still definable in RVS, and I disliked the ones you took..

What intentions? Please explain what you're reading into those posts

RVS isn't an excuse, that's the point. That's why I brought it up just in case you fell back on saying 'well uh it's only RVS'.

Vote: Soup

I have a higher opinion of you then to believe you'd really believe that. RVS starts with joke posts. Me and Kaladin already joked earlier in the thread that I was confirmed scum before the rolePms even went out. When the day started we continued it. Then I said J's avatar is making me sexually confused.

Soup comes in saying this is me pressuring Kaladin with scum motivation and that saying it's "just RVS" is an excuse.

Has Soup read mafia games before? He has. Does Soup understand RVS? He does. What does he think I'm pressuring Kaladin for? "scum pressure"? What does that even mean when nothing else is going on? Me and Kaladin were the only people that had posted.

Does Soup really think this is a valid point? I don't think so

So that's the vote.

You might have not said that you explicitly town-read him, but you're most definitely implying it.

Town lean doesn't equal town read. You're expereinced enough to know this

I don't see the need for you to doubt yourself in your sentence.

Because it's super early RVS and there's no reason to give anyone a strong lean either way and phrased to create discussion about it instead of just throwing it out there. Notice the discussion the phrasing generated.

and that's a main reason why it's a contradiction. You cannot call someone's actions townie then fold and say 'yeah well he's null.'

That's ridiculous, yes you can. Do I need to go find posts of your own where you give someone pro-town credit for an action then end up still having him null? Because I will do it

That doesn't make any sense at all. If he was null, why did you bring it up that you thought he was being townie?

Soup, read the thread before you respond.

J asked me to talk to him about someone of my choice. He asked it here.

Maven, talk with me about a player of your choice. I'm sorry I could not save you last game.

I responded by talking about how I had a town lean on Kaladin. This was further clarified twice more by both of us

My Kaladin statement was me talking to you about another player

Okay, I didn't take you as talking about Generic as the answer but it does make sense so thank you for that.

I read, and your intentions (pretty sure I highlighted this) are the reason why I disliked it, regardless if the post itself could be considered null. I know you've played enough to understand the difference between intent and content so I'm not sure how you're tripped up about this and why you've decided to kneejerk in the most scummy fashion you possibly could by misconstruing everything I've said thus far.

Soup, you made a terrible push against me that showed a basic lack of even knowing what's going on, as your first post. You also jump on the easiest target available based on what's going on and do so for garbage reasons. I'm responding because it's town to shut this crap down and judge how you react to it

 

[Jdietz43]

Vote: Soup

See, a 7th player always clears things right up rofl.

No but seriously. Soup rolled scum again.

Look me in the eyes and tell me you believe anything you're reaching for against Maven right now.

Your entire 124 is faked, and clearly looking for reasons to take initiative instead of actually reading thread. You're just posturing at the lowest hanging fruit in thread (the player who tried "a thing" and it didn't work at all).

 

[Jdietz43]

Oh hey Maven lol
I c u there

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I have a higher opinion of you then to believe you'd really believe that. RVS starts with joke posts. Me and Kaladin already joked earlier in the thread that I was confirmed scum before the rolePms even went out. When the day started we continued it. Then I said J's avatar is making me sexually confused.

Honestly, you can't call something a joke post if you make a post like #81 explaining how you were just trying something called ****seed or however you called it. You can't say 'yeah I was joking and didn't mean it' when you clearly were trying to imply that you were attempting to get something out it. That's poor on your part if that's not what you meant but that's how I'm taking it.

Has Soup read mafia games before? He has. Does Soup understand RVS? He does. What does he think I'm pressuring Kaladin for? "scum pressure"? What does that even mean when nothing else is going on? Me and Kaladin were the only people that had posted.

Quoting your post again:

I was planting a ****seed. If you plant a ****seed, scum might smell the scent and fertilize it, with ****. When it's fertilized, it can turn into a ****garden. When it's a ****garden, scum will want to harvest it. Then you just have to see who has **** on their hands.

I assume J the reason you guessed was "because I know you guys wouldn't buy it for a second and wanted to trick new players", which is exactly what the reason was, but not to try and lynch dietz but just to see if anyone would bite.

Were you joking about this too?

That's ridiculous, yes you can. Do I need to go find posts of your own where you give someone pro-town credit for an action then end up still having him null? Because I will do it

Maybe you could, but how is it relevant here? Again, misconstruing.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Soup, you made a terrible push against me that showed a basic lack of even knowing what's going on, as your first post. You also jump on the easiest target available based on what's going on and do so for garbage reasons. I'm responding because it's town to shut this crap down and judge how you react to it

Sorry you have low confidence for yourself or you're aware how horrible you've been playing thus far?

 

[Maven89]

My "****garden" post is a reference to this character https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4iDurCE3Yk (uh, language warning? J don't remove it or you'll be cursed)

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

My "****garden" post is a reference to this character https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4iDurCE3Yk (uh, language warning? J don't remove it or you'll be cursed)

Doesn't change the fact you said you were trying to trick new players with your actions, therefore, it was not just a joke. Please stop saying things that have a double meaning.

 

[Jdietz43]

Honestly, you can't call something a joke post if you make a post like #81 explaining how you were just trying something called ****seed or however you called it. You can't say 'yeah I was joking and didn't mean it' when you clearly were trying to imply that you were attempting to get something out it. That's poor on your part if that's not what you meant but that's how I'm taking it.



Quoting your post again:



Were you joking about this too?



Maybe you could, but how is it relevant here? Again, misconstruing.

Doesn't change the fact you said you were trying to trick new players with your actions, therefore, it was not just a joke. Please stop saying things that have a double meaning.

Wow, I see you're actually serious about this attempt.

#HBC | J , Orboknown

We're done for the day folks, vote Soup and lets be on our way.

Not even kidding.

100% not kidding.

 

[Kaladin]

So many walls! *twirls mustache*

I feel really bad because throughout the game I've said I'm going to post something then haven't.

I promise I'll read these walls and actually post something meaningful later tonight, likely around 10:00 central time.

 

[Kaladin]

Just skimming over, Soup seems really defensive. But that's skimming. Unvote.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Lemme just reach a little further here because something came across my mind while I was getting some chips.

. I'm responding because it's town to shut this crap down and judge how you react to it

Does that mean you dont want to get your hands dirty or be responsible when I inevitably flip town should this pull through?

quickly now, before he has time to think

 

[#HBC | J]

I smell scum in one of Maven or Soup, but I seriously don't know where I lean currently because I think both sides of the argument are a tad silly (Maven's RVS post = scum for soup; Soup is "playing to his scum meta") *Heavily generalizing here while I am continuing to read*

I'm going to dwell on this for a second because I am not sold either way and need to relook at the battle that just occurred.

 

[Maven89]

....I never said Soup was playing to his scum meta

 

[#HBC | J]

Ditzy, my question goes to you for the moment:

Are you seriously serious about what you are saying currently?

 

[#HBC | J]

....I never said Soup was playing to his scum meta

Talking about something I read in Ditzy's post that I may be reading a bit into. (As in, him "rolling scum again")

 

[TheKingofKoopas]

Initial thoughts on page 1:

Maven's approach to Kaladin is comparatively worse than Kaladin's response. I see no importance by antagonizing Kaladin in such the way he did and the vote immediately after isn't even really all that great if we're even speaking in RVS standards. Kaladin looks more confused than guilty and Maven's whole pressure doesn't really sit right with me. Dislike maven alone for this page. J still null even if he voted maven which I think was a decent one to say the least. Other players who posted on this page don't leave me a lasting impression.

it was literally rvs

Initial thoughts on page 2 (yes this will be how I format this):

TKK's first post gives me bad vibes, mostly because it's the type of post usually made by a scum who just wants to provide content without having the means to actually scumhunt. I am aware that the day has barely started, but talking about voting mechanics where it isn't even prevalent just seems rather pointless. So far in the day all he's done is make a joke, and now this. Would say as somewhat of a stretch that Cyber's post afterwards wasn't two partners agreeing on a moot point.

I was replying to Maven and Kaladin's reaction to J putting Maven at L-2, and then never busted his balls about it afterwards.

Side note: TTK's #43 isn't all that good either. Too anxious for his own good.

FoS: TheKingofKoopas

i was saying rvs sucked
What about it made you think I was being "anxious"?

I know maven will tell me that his first interaction with Kaladin was RVS but I still don't like the means that he is going about town-reading Kaladin for. Lack of assurance and the whole "is it me or Kaladin's post the most townie" doesn't make me feel better about him on top of the fact that he shows hesitance in his previous statements by immediately saying "not that he is townie." That doesn't really make any sense and I'm surprised J didn't pick up on this as it's quite literally a contradiction.

I'm assuming by the entire conversation after that the "town lean" was more of a "town vibe" and he said his alignment was null based on logic.

Initial thoughts on page 3:

Maven continues to leave a bad taste in my mouth. He's playing very sloppy and his first post confuses just as much as the one he made about Kaladin in RVS. If you're going to say 'yeah I did all that intentionally for reactions' (which is what it pretty much boiled down to without all the unneeded posturing) then the least you can do is make something out of it. Instead, maven somehow manages to change his mind again in the span of ~10 posts and say that Kaladin is null. The conclusions he's reaching right now do not line up with what he is saying.

He hinted at J what he was trying to do just after he did it, and he "somehow manages to change his mind" because we all said nobodies falling for it. It was sloppy I'll admit that, but there isn't much other than that.

And..that's it? Easiest catch-up I had to do.

no

Focus is TTK and Maven, slightly town-reading Kaladin and the Cyber slot and the rest I have no real opinion about or I will be withholding it until I find something relevant.

Why do you town read Cyber? There was hardly anything about him before he left, and I'm assuming by "Cyber slot", Dietz himself is null to you

 

[#HBC | J]

Okay, basic thoughts are actually I am kind of curious about watching Soup vs. Maven go further because I will say I am stuck on the fence with that because, meh. I just got through a game where Soup shot up like a billion red flags, but here they are barely peaking any scummy intent for me. Maven, I had subtle problems with in the beginning because of the weird stuff, but we talked about that and I will say that his answers sated me. That was mainly because they were logical though. The argument makes me feel meh about both sides and not really either is looking especially towny regarding it.

I'm also curious about Ditzy and Kaladin because Ditzy seems super sure about this soup read and it feels weird on how confident he is and then Kaladin likes Soup's post when he was just saying in larger form what he called earlier "just janky play". But now he unvoted soup over being defensive?

I actually would look more into the Ditzy/Kaladin duo because something reeks there and I am trying to put my finger on it.

Koopy and Orbo are still null since most of Orbo's posts have been "I can't be here so I'll post later" and Koopy is just null.

Someone start being towny please! This is actually becoming harder with the more posts that keep happening.

 

[Maven89]

J I really hate how your attempting to force meta into this. Look at it on its own. Ask yourself, was that post real?

 

[Maven89]

Kaladin you still owe me your points against me

 

[#HBC | J]

I'm not bringing meta into it at all?

The post itself can be interpreted into two ways: It is fake and scummy or it is looking like an attempt to get the game going and push some slots which everyone else seems to be afraid of doing.

To be honest, I don't feel soup's post was fake. Misguided? Possibly. Stretching? That could definitely be seen. I don't get the point of trying to make a dual case on two slots based on RVS posts.

Long answer shortened, I don't think it was fake and if that's what it is being called scummy for then that is a reaching/nonsequeter argument. There are other points I can see to it being scummy.

 

[Maven89]

I am stuck on the fence with that because, meh. I just got through a game where Soup shot up like a billion red flags, but here they are barely peaking any scummy intent for me.

I was on phone and misread this, thought you were saying Soup "shot up" in the sense that he got overly aggressive. My bad

 

[Maven89]

Long answer shortened, I don't think it was fake and if that's what it is being called scummy for then that is a reaching/nonsequeter argument. There are other points I can see to it being scummy.

This is strange to me. Are you saying that about calling any post "fake", or are you just saying there's not enough yet to claim the post was fake or not?

 

[Maven89]

just got through a game where Soup shot up like a billion red flags, but here they are barely peaking any scummy intent for me. .

I misread this and thought you were saying that last game Soup "shot up" as in got aggressive and you weren't noticing that this game. My bad