Jungle Republic Mafia: To Clarify, the Werewolves Won The Game. Here Marks a New Age in Activity Reform.

[Pythag]

How I have been reading the game recently :

FF
Kevin
Rajam
Raxxel
Maven
Z25
RR

FF - lol, town.

Kevin - Dude i swear if you're ww I'm gonna be pissed.

Rajam - brought apparently, your normal fair. I'm still skittish on your hammer, but that's taking a much lower priority to me right now, and I think your big post makes up for a lot of lost ground in my eyes.

Raxxel - Tentative still new guy plays. Seems to recognze he messed up, but depending on flips I'm still willing to pass over it.

Maven : I can't shake the idea that you're mafia who's scum-hunting.

Z25 :
I was a little more confused by Z25 earlier, but now I don't know how he's really going to argue to me that RR and I are TvT.
I also didn't really him throwing everything and the kitchen sink at Rajam, and approximately 0 of it seems to have stuck.

RR : I feel similarly towards this slot. I'm not completely certain why he chose me to park on, but c'est la vie.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I’m ready for tomorrow after this flip. Time to role the spirit of marshy and #hbc this game.

 

[Raxxel]

Tfw utopia likes your post but still doesn't post vote count. I just want to know whether or not me voting for Z25 right now would hammer him. Don't want a repeat of D2.

 

[Z25]

Tfw utopia likes your post but still doesn't post vote count. I just want to know whether or not me voting for Z25 right now would hammer him. Don't want a repeat of D2.

It should be 3 votes on me iirc, with Utopian saying it’s 5 to hammer

 

[Pythag]

Are you counting RR's vote in that?

 

[Z25]

Are you counting RR's vote in that?

Yes, he should be the third one.

I believe it’s rajam, Kevin, ryu.

Rax hasn’t voted, I don’t believe FF has, you haven’t correct?

Actually no maven jumped on the wagon earlier. So it’s actually 4/5 votes right now. I just looked back at the thread.

So yes we are at hammer im pretty sure

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

It should be 4/5 atm unless I miscounted

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

How I have been reading the game recently :

FF
Kevin
Rajam
Raxxel
Maven
Z25
RR

FF - lol, town.

Kevin - Dude i swear if you're ww I'm gonna be pissed.

Rajam - brought apparently, your normal fair. I'm still skittish on your hammer, but that's taking a much lower priority to me right now, and I think your big post makes up for a lot of lost ground in my eyes.

Raxxel - Tentative still new guy plays. Seems to recognze he messed up, but depending on flips I'm still willing to pass over it.

Maven : I can't shake the idea that you're mafia who's scum-hunting.

Z25 :
I was a little more confused by Z25 earlier, but now I don't know how he's really going to argue to me that RR and I are TvT.
I also didn't really him throwing everything and the kitchen sink at Rajam, and approximately 0 of it seems to have stuck.

RR : I feel similarly towards this slot. I'm not completely certain why he chose me to park on, but c'est la vie.

ok what the actual ****, this post is sending my RR/pythag WW team read into overdrive

Has pythag ever had RR this deep of a scum read? AND hes got me as top town read? Like wtfffff its like he's leaning straight into the bus strategy I just said I was paranoid of last ****ing page!

Like is no one else seeing this?

 

[KevinM]

I’m ok with a Raxxel hammer at this point, we are going to spin our wheels on this one for a while.

If I die overnight I think town should play

Pythag/RR tomorrow.

Leaning RR but would definitely require a full reread on Z25 flip. If he flips town somehow I’m more wary of RR.

If you can’t come to an agreement I believe Maven is possibly our last mafia member, Mac was definitely on to something and with his town flip I respect his flex.

Raxxel if you’re truly noob town toMorrow sheep your vote on whoever FF tunnels.

 

[KevinM]

ok what the actual ****, this post is sending my RR/pythag WW team read into overdrive

Has pythag ever had RR this deep of a scum read? AND hes got me as top town read? Like wtfffff its like he's leaning straight into the bus strategy I just said I was paranoid of last ****ing page!

Like is no one else seeing this?

Nope hard agree, Pythag RR is your pivot slots tomorrow if Z25 flips town

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

Please no one hammer I need to ISO RR and pythag tonight but cant right now because Im on on mobile, ill post my conclusions either tonight before bed or tomorrow morning if I pass the **** out, def enough time to get this done before bedtime. Like if these guys are free WW bingos this game is ****ing over, town wins ez gg so if I can find strong support for my read here I want to be able to make a case for a wagon on one of them because getting a WW today gives us soooo much more flexibility tomorrow

 

[KevinM]

unvote

I’ll play ball, do your thing HBC

 

[KevinM]

If you feel strongly enough on that team by the way I’m still not voting Pythag. Like I can see where you’re coming from but Z25/RR is my other team I’ve been focused on so if you think it’s pythag/RR I’m going the latter half of that pairing.

Work for you #HBC | FrozeηFlame ?

 

[KevinM]

RR flipping WW gives us what?

Worst case scenario:

1 M
1 WW
4 Town

Tomorrow we go Pythag or Z25

Worse case scenario we go down to

1 M
1 WW
2 town

That’s MYLO.

I mean I guess the math is the same as if I’m right on Z25 except we are hitting the one common slot I’ve got on both teams that are bugging me.

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

Totally, RR shows all signs of being a more likely bingo as like you said he makes sense in two plausible WW pairs

 

[Pythag]

ok what the actual ****, this post is sending my RR/pythag WW team read into overdrive

Has pythag ever had RR this deep of a scum read? AND hes got me as top town read? Like wtfffff its like he's leaning straight into the bus strategy I just said I was paranoid of last ****ing page!

Like is no one else seeing this?

I've wanted RR dead since D1.

My town reads had been Mac, Kevin, and you.
Mac is gone and I'm more suspicious of Kevin than you, though a lot of that is depending on the Z25 flips. While you're for it, you haven't been swinging your crank around like Kevin has. Z25 flip tells me more about kevin than you, imo.

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

Your math is good but the thing is by nailing a WW today if last WW kills last non kill scum for us we're in the ****ing promised land

 

[KevinM]

I honestly feel like a lynch of both RR and Z25 in either order guarantees us one wolf so I’m pretty confident we don’t have a bad situation going into MYLO tomorrow.

 

[KevinM]

Or I should say possible MYLO given if we are correct today.

 

[KevinM]

Totally, RR shows all signs of being a more likely bingo as like you said he makes sense in two plausible WW pairs

Agreed. 10/10 times I’m gonna go with my crank on situations like this but this is one of the few 11/10 situations where it makes sense for the game state to lynch RR.

Maven seems in agreement the RR slot is sus , I believe Z25 has mentioned dislike of the slot

 

[KevinM]

Honestly it could be the bud lights whispering sweet nothings into my ear but I’m really liking where this is going

 

[KevinM]

HBC honestly about to H GD BC

 

[Raxxel]

I’m ok with a Raxxel hammer at this point, we are going to spin our wheels on this one for a while.

If I die overnight I think town should play

Pythag/RR tomorrow.

Leaning RR but would definitely require a full reread on Z25 flip. If he flips town somehow I’m more wary of RR.

If you can’t come to an agreement I believe Maven is possibly our last mafia member, Mac was definitely on to something and with his town flip I respect his flex.

Raxxel if you’re truly noob town toMorrow sheep your vote on whoever FF tunnels.

Calm down, still leaving room for discussion to potentially decide on a different lynch D3 is exactly why I avoided voting Z25. I'm dumb this game, but I'm picking up on things.

Maybe lynching Z is not the move for tonight. While he's looking WW to me, perhaps it's in our best interests to pick off the last of the mafia, which is theorized to be Maven due to his defense of Lore, and inactivity. Z's probably dying today whether or not I even contribute to his vote, but it's worth considering.

Red Ryu, who has been largely inconsistent this game, is also a werewolf candidate, arguably a much stronger one than Z.

I'm just thinking that Z hasn't been an obvious pick for as long as Ryu or Maven have. This scum read on him is relatively new. Maybe to avoid LYLO/MYLO we go for someone that we're more confident in.

 

[KevinM]

Read the next few posts. But yes we are waiting

 

[KevinM]

I’ve read most of the thread over again and honestly I just keep going back to D1 KevinM where I actively hated the RR slot.

I can see why I hated his Raxxel vote and then saw why I pressured it.

Z25 reaction to all of my pressure D2 sucks , it super sucks and I still don’t understand it from a town perspective. Every part of me wants that slot dead but am I giving him too much credit? With all due respect meant if he’s legitimate weak town that OMGUS isn’t as insane as if it was someone I’ve played with before. My main read on Z25 was the way he actively played to self preserve but a lot of bad town does that.

RR bussing Python, FF paint me that picture but the more I reread this thread the more I’m convinced my selfish read of Z25 isn’t where I want to be this game.

Still convinced though that if RR flips WW my first thought is Z25 tomorrow. Distancing or Bussing becomes the big question.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Votecount:

Z25: 3 (Rajam, Maven89, Red Ryu)
Red Ryu: 1 (Pythag)

Not Voting: 4 (FrozenFlame, Z25, Raxxel, KevinM)

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to hammer.



Now, I know I have not been public with the prods recently. I DID make a rule that 3 prods will lead to a replacement, but I don't know how likely a replacement would be this far in the game, especially with the recent lack of players in DGames. Rajam and Maven89 , please just try to make a post a day.

An activity slump makes sense this weekend in the States, as I too had to make some Labor Day preparations. Raxxel, I liked your request because I acknowledged that I saw it and was keeping it in my head, but I had to get some housekeeping done myself. Sorry that the votecount was delayed; however, plan on the day ending on schedule.

 

[Raxxel]

Votecount:

Z25: 3 (Rajam, Maven89, Red Ryu)
Red Ryu: 1 (Pythag)

Not Voting: 4 (FrozenFlame, Z25, Raxxel, KevinM)

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to hammer.



Now, I know I have not been public with the prods recently. I DID make a rule that 3 prods will lead to a replacement, but I don't know how likely a replacement would be this far in the game, especially with the recent lack of players in DGames. Rajam and Maven89 , please just try to make a post a day.

An activity slump makes sense this weekend in the States, as I too had to make some Labor Day preparations. Raxxel, I liked your request because I acknowledged that I saw it and was keeping it in my head, but I had to get some housekeeping done myself. Sorry that the votecount was delayed; however, plan on the day ending on schedule.

Oh don't sweat it, I was being tongue-in-cheek. Take all the time you need, sorry.

 

[Rajam]

Have we revisited Tom's nkill analysis? Mac entertained the idea WW-Lore nkilled Tom in hopes of a town flip to throw shade on Mac. We know now that's not the case. I'd like to hear from everyone what's their thoughts

 

[Maven89]

I just assumed they also thought Tom was scum

 

[Rajam]

Regarding Maven:

literally had this same thought. but it was more along the lines that Maven seems have pretty much the same arguments that Lore has against me toDay. Like he mirrors Lore in disliking how I call myself blatant town, and he's with Lore in thinking that my goal today is trying to paint myself as clear town due to flips or nkills. Maven even says the same thing Lore did re how he'd normally be fine with me or read me as town if it weren't for my behavior toDay. given that Maven's thoughts line up pretty well with Lore's I'm wondering why he's so strong on thinking Lore should die. wouldn't Maven's town opinion of Lore go up at least a lil bit if they were in sync like that?

The more I read this the more i fail to see Maven as town: I fully agree with what Mac says in here regarding how Maven pretty much had the same line of thought as Lore but still voted him, and didn't gave Lore some more town points. He should have, and then he should've either defend Lore a bit more or push some other scumread harder. Maven is either 3rd mafioso jumping on the late bus, or WW who despite having aligned views with Lore still lynched him. Actions =><= townie mentality

 

[Maven89]

No, that’s real dumb. Lore pointing out that Mac was acting suspicious in day 2 has nothing to do with clearing Lores action in day 1, nor would Mac being suspicious have anything to do with whether or not he found scum. I have said I haven’t liked Lore for a long while.

 

[Maven89]

Also I’m down with flipping to Red Ryu today

 

[Rajam]

Raxxel are you reading before you post?

This was the last D2 post, after hammer. I read it as an honest callout, and if Pythag and Raxxel were scummates, Pythag could've scolded Raxxel in private

 

[Rajam]

No, that’s real dumb. Lore pointing out that Mac was acting suspicious in day 2 has nothing to do with clearing Lores action in day 1, nor would Mac being suspicious have anything to do with whether or not he found scum. I have said I haven’t liked Lore for a long while.

But you still thought Mac was scummier in the Lore vs Mac interaction

 

[Maven89]

But you still thought Mac was scummier in the Lore vs Mac interaction

No, I didn’t. Read again

 

[Rajam]

No, I didn’t. Read again

Your points against Lore can be found only in D1, here:
#299: 'Current views are still to kill Ryu, Toms post I didn’t like, and Lore is acting exactly like J does when he’s scum, so much that I had to stop and remember if J ever namehanged to Werekill. Is there a single bandwagon this guy hasn’t jumped on?

Mac is most townie right now.

Mac had pretty weak points against Lore, but Lore’s tone and responses have been over the top, he’s jumped on every wagon that has appeared. Has he ever voted for Mac? I don’t recall him doing so and will look for this on reread.'

#339: 'Lore, you clearly have baited Mac into a constant back and forth over what was an incredibly minor point, then complained that Mac is tunneling after he engaged you. This is what I’m talking about when I said you’re acting exactly like J was he’s scum. Your defense was not in good faith at all'


All of your D2 posts:
#538: Unexplained SvS read in Mac vs Lore
#548: Nothing of substance
#578: Points against Mac at the beginning; at the end of this post, you put Lore higher in the scum list despite not explaining why at all (I'll assume you kept your D1 reasoning)
#579: More on Mac


Aaand quoting Mac back again:

#586: 'literally had this same thought. but it was more along the lines that Maven seems have pretty much the same arguments that Lore has against me toDay. Like he mirrors Lore in disliking how I call myself blatant town, and he's with Lore in thinking that my goal today is trying to paint myself as clear town due to flips or nkills. Maven even says the same thing Lore did re how he'd normally be fine with me or read me as town if it weren't for my behavior toDay. given that Maven's thoughts line up pretty well with Lore's I'm wondering why he's so strong on thinking Lore should die. wouldn't Maven's town opinion of Lore go up at least a lil bit if they were in sync like that? '


ok, maybe you didn't find Mac scummier, but you still thought he was scummy, and the important point is: How didn't you sympathize more with Lore given both of you had very similar points against Mac? And also, at the end of D2 your case against Mac looked much more developed and loud than Lore's, which was only explained during D1 and it was mostly meta comparison to J tbh

 

[Maven89]

First, I want to clarify that my previous post was exactly what I said it was, me getting my major thoughts out in case you guys lynched Lore right there and then. I don't have any big bombshells or big evidence that Mac is scum, even calling it "pretty likely" was an error on my part. I should have said "pretty probable".

I'm not scum reading Mac, I have him null scum

These are the relevant parts of my post that you seem to keep missing. The case on Lore was developed early on, the J meta line was a joke, you even quoted the post where I laid it all out but want to paint it as based on J meta. I never argued Mac was scum, and have wanted Lore dead since day 1. When it came to Mac, I didn’t want people to give him a free ride the rest of the day.

No, that’s real dumb. Lore pointing out that Mac was acting suspicious in day 2 has nothing to do with clearing Lores action in day 1, nor would Mac being suspicious have anything to do with whether or not he found scum. I have said I haven’t liked Lore for a long while.

 

[Rajam]

Did a quick read on Pythag's D3 posts; his accusation of Ryu feels lazy af, from the callout on D1 for Ryu's question directed at Raxxel which Pythag read as role-phishing, pythag has parked there on a weak point and not letting it go, and hasn't gone indeep on other slots (key word here being indeep); reads as having issues scumhunting

 

[Maven89]

How didn't you sympathize more with Lore given both of you had very similar points against Mac?

No, that’s real dumb. Lore pointing out that Mac was acting suspicious in day 2 has nothing to do with clearing Lores action in day 1, nor would Mac being suspicious have anything to do with whether or not he found scum. I have said I haven’t liked Lore for a long while.

Fixed the quote for the last part

 

[Rajam]

^ Maven: the J stuff didn't feel as a joke considering you brought it up twice. In 339 doesnt look as a joke at all for sure