Janon social thread : Lair of the Floating Back Slapping Missile Reflecting King of Evil

[Soft Serve]

double ganon is so painful to play against, Its like every time I get hit I take like 35%, and I can't run from ganon because theres two. You also have to commit to every edgeguard if you ever want to hope to kill one, and then you have to deal with another ganon trying to tipman/stomp you.

Its probably a really bad team but Its so good >.>

 

[CORY]

well, there was that double ganon team that had vex on it that sent oracle/sethlon to loser's bracket a while back.

and that was when ganon was a straight up low tier, rather than at least mid.

 

[Bazkip]

well, there was that double ganon team that had vex on it that sent oracle/sethlon to loser's bracket a while back.

and that was when ganon was a straight up low tier, rather than at least mid.

Vex and Gunblade.

Also in GOML Melee dubs Kage and Loki got 5th (they even took a game off M2K and Hbox). So it can work...just gotta be really good.

 

[Hungry Headcrab]

So, Link got an ocarina taunt.

Sheik is apparently getting a harp (shown on Silentdo0m's stream).

When do we get an organ?

 

[Bazkip]

So, Link got an ocarina taunt.

Sheik is apparently getting a harp (shown on Silentdo0m's stream).

When do we get an organ?

I still want hold uptaunt to keep spinning

 

[Hungry Headcrab]

I still want hold uptaunt to keep spinning

 

[Bazkip]

Also press B on sidetaunt to put on sunglasses

Then we shall truly be the Dark Lord of Swag

 

[CORY]

I still want hold uptaunt to keep spinning

I still eagerly await a hidden laugh taunt on dair... I should bug the hell out of sb about that, actually...

 

[Bazkip]

I still eagerly await a hidden laugh taunt on dair... I should bug the hell out of sb about that, actually...

I feel like that should be on fair. Or maybe...

 

[CORY]

He basically does the utaunt when he stomps, tho... And laughing as he boots you down is way cooler than laughing as he punches your head.

We also need to be careful about hidden taunts, too much swag might make him op : o

 

[Coastward]

fun fact: i lost a game on saturday because i was trying to get a kill with down taunt but i used side taunt instead LOL

 

[RelaxAlax]

Next PTO let's team Coast lel

We could win bc people can't handle double Ganons. Especially if both of them are stylish as ****. The stomps, the wiz kicks....

 

[Coastward]

Next PTO let's team Coast lel

We could win bc people can't handle double Ganons. Especially if both of them are stylish as ****. The stomps, the wiz kicks....

if i go sure, but if n0ne goes then well most likely team.

 

[RelaxAlax]

True true who does n0ne play?

 

[Coastward]

True true who does n0ne play?

ganon/falcon

 

[RelaxAlax]

o o o o o o i remember him now hes gahliek

 

[n0ne]

o o o o o o i remember him now hes gahliek

Sup

 

[HiroProtagonist]

What should the hidden taunt on dair be? I'm thinking some booming thunder would go great with the electric effect.

 

[CORY]

His utaunt laugh.

 

[RelaxAlax]

Sup

Howdy

I never met you, i'm new to tourneys yolo swag

And it should be his laugh, but you have input z+uptaunt before the dair, maybe the speed of a dacus

That reminds me i should set uptaunt to x so i can taunt cancel and slowly destroy my opponents spirits

 

[CORY]

Z would make you do an aerial, so that wouldn't even work. Just make it so the window to input utaunt is only open right before theove is active, if you're that worried about overswagging.

 

[Coastward]

http://gfycat.com/RewardingDismalJoey

here's me swaggin.

 

[Bazkip]

http://gfycat.com/RewardingDismalJoey

here's me swaggin.

Huh TO Joe still plays PM? I figured he'd dropped it after he didn't enter it Smash Intensifies.

Also looooooool rekt
Though now I'm worried that if we get into a 2v1 at LAN ETS we'll both try to Wiz Foot spike the guy and end up killing each other.

 

[Coastward]

Huh TO Joe still plays PM? I figured he'd dropped it after he didn't enter it Smash Intensifies.

Also looooooool rekt
Though now I'm worried that if we get into a 2v1 at LAN ETS we'll both try to Wiz Foot spike the guy and end up killing each other.

thats what i did to @ n0ne what a previous tournament LOL, we got 3rd because i went too deep with a wizkick.

 

[CORY]

doesn't @Shell owe us a ganon write up article, still?

 

[n0ne]

So i have a 100$ mm vs gravy. Reppin the dorf for this. What/whens the next big thing after apex in the states?

Also, im putting falcon to the side for a while and going dorf more now

 

[n0ne]

Woops wrong thread didnt notice it till today

 

[Bazkip]

omg just had the best idea
You know how we were talking about having laugh taunt on fair/dair?

Screw the laugh
It has to be this

 

[CORY]

give that a frame perfect hidden taunt input : p

edit:

 

[Bazkip]

give that a frame perfect hidden taunt input : p

edit:

Is this what happens when Kage and Axe team in dubs?

 

[CORY]

kage's all like "we're teaming" and axe is like "but i've already agreed to tea-" "i'll break your arm" "ok, we're teaming".

 

[Nephiros]

I'd argue Ganon could use a laugh hidden taunt on every attack he has for maximum disrespect. owo

 

[Electric Tuba]

I don't know, flame choke>jab> run off taunt cancel stomp is pretty disrespectful. I'm not sure what would happen if it got any bigger.

 

[CORY]

holy ****... need to practice my taunt cancelled drop zone aerials now!

 

[Electric Tuba]

So as I'm working on tech, the timing for perfect waveland after short hop upair seems really specific, especially compared to bair. Is that just me, or is it actually harder? I'm trying to have more/better setups than just bair for perfect wavelands.

 

[CORY]

no, it is really tight. don't know the specific numbers (mostly because i'm lazy and haven't gone to check the actual iasa frames on moves vs the sh air time...) but it's MUCH tighter than bair wl.

 

[Scuba Steve]

I think it's mostly just because bair contorts your landing detection stuff in a way that makes wavelanding easier and upair doesn't

 

[Electric Tuba]

I think Callum's partially right. Back air is still kind of in an attack animation when you waveland, whereas up air is usually back to the standard falling animation by the time you hit the ground.

By my tests, you have a one frame window to waveland if you up air the frame you leave the ground (because the upair animation is over). However, if you upair the third frame you're in the air, you have a two frame window to waveland, THEN another frame or two where you will airdodge but not waveland. So, the earlier you up air the harder it actually is to perfect waveland (but too late and you won't be able to). This is kind of unintuitive, but makes sense when you consider the animation lengths.

 

[Scuba Steve]

sheeeeeeeeeiiittt, only two frames? That makes me feel good about myself that I can get it semi consistently lol

 

[CORY]

I think Callum's partially right. Back air is still kind of in an attack animation when you waveland, whereas up air is usually back to the standard falling animation by the time you hit the ground.

By my tests, you have a one frame window to waveland if you up air the frame you leave the ground (because the upair animation is over). However, if you upair the third frame you're in the air, you have a two frame window to waveland, THEN another frame or two where you will airdodge but not waveland. So, the earlier you up air the harder it actually is to perfect waveland (but too late and you won't be able to). This is kind of unintuitive, but makes sense when you consider the animation lengths.

that's really interesting to know!