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Janon social thread : Lair of the Floating Back Slapping Missile Reflecting King of Evil
- Thread starter teluoborg
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guys, floaaaat!
Meme
Smash Journeyman
Projectile reflection too... oh gawd...
i'm requesting clearance to speak about what i know on it, since i played a dev build quite a while ago (mostly don't know how much of the move got tweaked).
ItsRainingGravy
Smash Ace
...I can't believe that they actually used my idea.
http://smashboards.com/threads/gano...ggestions-go-here.341662/page-8#post-16437671
http://smashboards.com/threads/if-you-could-change-1-thing.348135/page-5
This is absolutely amazing.
http://smashboards.com/threads/gano...ggestions-go-here.341662/page-8#post-16437671
http://smashboards.com/threads/if-you-could-change-1-thing.348135/page-5
This is absolutely amazing.
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so, **** it, i'll talk about the basics that shouldn't have changed. it's only two days from now:
b on the ground is the backhand reflect thing. don't know what they've done with it in the almost 6 months or so since i've played, so i don't know about timing and hitboxes.
b in the air starts your float. you don't get a whole lot of aerial control during it, but you can get some drift. when i played it, you slowly descended. if you press b again (or hold it down) you backhand in the air. if you just float, you lose it as soon as you do anything. only one float per airtime (when i played you needed to stand on the stage to refresh it, not just grab the ledge).
no float cancelling aerials, no repeated aerials during float. it's hype but not entirely stupid.
b on the ground is the backhand reflect thing. don't know what they've done with it in the almost 6 months or so since i've played, so i don't know about timing and hitboxes.
b in the air starts your float. you don't get a whole lot of aerial control during it, but you can get some drift. when i played it, you slowly descended. if you press b again (or hold it down) you backhand in the air. if you just float, you lose it as soon as you do anything. only one float per airtime (when i played you needed to stand on the stage to refresh it, not just grab the ledge).
no float cancelling aerials, no repeated aerials during float. it's hype but not entirely stupid.
it lets you change up approach options so you're not so committed to everything.
it also help(ed) go SUPER deep on edgeguards. or just deal with people stalling while you were edgeguarding.
you can also use it on tech setups to delay your fall if you think they're going to not tech, then getup attack or something.
MerzA
Smash Cadet
MerzA
Smash Cadet
Thats the fsmash, yep
ViewtifulHoe242
Smash Journeyman
Meh, I only wanted a better grab range. I'll wait till I play it to make judgements, and if i dont like it then i won't use it.Its not like i ever used the neutral b anyway. Edit: HE STILL NEEDS THIS
I'll wait till I play it to make judgements, and if i dont like it then i won't use it.Its not like i ever used the neutral b anyway. Edit: HE STILL NEEDS THIS
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Xinc
Smash Lord
I really don't see much groundbreaking about Ganon's new float, other than possibly increased recovery, which is something we asked for a while back. Can't wait to experiment on Friday though. Heheheheheh.
I'm asking for a better grab range tho. :o
I'm asking for a better grab range tho. :o
Comeback Kid
Smash Champion
A useless move is now useful. And they made it completely canon to OoT, all without making him into another sword user.
Biased PMDT be praised.
Biased PMDT be praised.
you now don't need to commit super hard to approaches (you can jump in like you're f/nairing, then just hover and gauge a reaction first, for example. also basic attack timing changeups). and you can float over projectiles for a little bit to help deal with that issue to an extent.
and offstage, recovery isn't even the big part about it. this is a special move. you don't lose your jump. the edgeguards...
and offstage, recovery isn't even the big part about it. this is a special move. you don't lose your jump. the edgeguards...
pooch182
Smash Journeyman
Float means you have no excuse foe dropping a tech chase on a platform.
Hungry Headcrab
Smash Ace
I really need to get my hands on that float. I need to know how it works. Every detail.
3.5 can't come soon enough.
3.5 can't come soon enough.
ArcDawn
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"The king of evil takes flight"
Actually, I only wanted a better grab and changes to his already had moveset.
This outdoes my expectations and I welcome it with open arms to learn.
Whether it makes him better or not, we Ganon fo life.
Also change the social thread name :]
This outdoes my expectations and I welcome it with open arms to learn.
Whether it makes him better or not, we Ganon fo life.
Also change the social thread name :]
Hungry Headcrab
Smash Ace
Ganon Social Thread: HOLY **** WE CAN FLY NOW
Electric Tuba
Smash Journeyman
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
based pmdt is real
Well, like I said in some thread a year ago I guess it's time to money match every Meta Knight in texas to make up for brawl.
based pmdt is real
Well, like I said in some thread a year ago I guess it's time to money match every Meta Knight in texas to make up for brawl.
Yanoss1313
Smash Journeyman
What is this voodoo!?!?!?! Do my eyes deceive?
And i remember suggesting a backhand reflector like a year and a half ago. But then again, Who DIDN'T suggest something like that aye?
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Shell
Flute-Fox Only
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I'll put together a post or thread discussing the nB, probably upon release. While many people here are pretty hyped up about it I'm aware that others would still appreciate more explanation on what motivated us to make it, how it functions, usage suggestions, and the deliberate design calls we made to get it to complement his kit without warping his playstyle.
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Hokori
Great King of Evil
I'm so excited to get back into PM now with The Dorf. Omg.
TTTTTsd
Gordeau Main Paint Drinker
This, boys, is the era of Ganondorf. It is time to truly conquer all.
The float and reflector ? I think someone said they're the same button, but I'm interested in their full uses. Reflector does look complementary indeed and it doesn't look insanely exploitable. Rather, it's got a particular use at a particular place that discourages opponents with projectiles which, I know many of us can agree, are amongst Ganons hardest match ups in 3.02.
From looking at it, it doesn't seem too laggy but totally punishable from up close. Curious to see it's full functions.
Float I'm more interested to hear. I was scared of an uprgade to the dorf that changed him too much from his feel, but this seems fitting and not too exploitable. It'll up Ganons game but to a point where it helps him do what he does int 3.02 better and without so much risk.
But what do I know eh?
teluoborg
Smash Otter
Yeah well from my point of view it's no use theorycrafting over 3.5s of footage when we're 2 days away from testing it.
I just hope the PM site will whistand the traffic this time (spoiler : it won't).
Also updated thread title.
I just hope the PM site will whistand the traffic this time (spoiler : it won't).
Also updated thread title.
TTTTTsd
Gordeau Main Paint Drinker
Keep suggesting new things, you masterful prophet!...I can't believe that they actually used my idea.
his is absolutely amazing.
But yes this is incredibly hype and only adds to Ganondorf's 3.02 arsenal with new ways to make less ridiculous commitments and even disrespect projectiles to an EXTENT.
DarkStarStorm
Smash Ace
Enjoy your float Pea--Ganon mains! Congrats on getting buffs, may you use them to stomp puny Mewtwos around. Teach them a new meaning of "float!"
I'm a Zelda main, and I'm just going to sit in this corner over here and...let you take over... :'-(
I'm a Zelda main, and I'm just going to sit in this corner over here and...let you take over... :'-(
ShadowGanon
Smash Lord
Nguz95
Smash Lord
I vote for pimp slap. Best name.
TTTTTsd
Gordeau Main Paint Drinker
I want the slap to have a hitbox so I can float offstage and pimpslap gimp recoveries for extra disrespect points.
BlitznBurst
Smash Ace
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Oh Ganon's been buffed? That's cool, now if only I could actually play as hi-
HOLY **** PAL RELEASE
THANK YOU BASED PMBR
HOLY **** PAL RELEASE
THANK YOU BASED PMBR
Shin F.
Smash Master
Was curious, just came around to see what the reception to Ganon's changes were since I use him as a bit of a secondary character. I'm pretty hype about them myself!
I've been seeing people refer to it as Dead Man's Volley. Kinda makes sense.Man... The PMDT is so considerate. Hits me right in the feels. They really didn't have make their release date the day before my birthday...
Hey, @CORY , does the reflecting backhand thing (we really need a name for it) have an actual hitbox on it?