Ivysaur As A DLC! - VOTE NOW FOR HIM IN THE SMASH BALLOT!!

SMAASH! Puppy · Apr 27, 2015

JackerX said:
Could be a fine case of Ganon-ization!

Still don't like the idea.

Deleted member · Apr 28, 2015

SMAASH! Puppy said:
Still don't like the idea.

I agree, Ivysaur is actually still cute, Venusaur just got fat.

Vsaur · May 2, 2015

JackerX said:
I really wonder how could work out with a size tone-down. . Y'know, i like Ivysaur too but there's room for more fun in here.

Originally i wanted venasaur but i thought he would be a bit awkward in the air

Vsaur · May 2, 2015

Originally i wanted

but then i thought she would be a bit awkward in the air

SMAASH! Puppy · May 2, 2015

Vsaur said:
Originally i wanted venasaur but i thought he would be a bit awkward in the air

Yeah, Venusaur doesn't have efficient mobility.

(Also...You double posted)

Deleted member · May 2, 2015

SMAASH! Puppy said:
efficient mobility.

in the air!

Lotsa people would like to talk to you.

...okay. Thats enough Off topic in this thread from me! - flies away -

SMAASH! Puppy · May 2, 2015

JackerX said:
in the air!

Lotsa people would like to talk to you.

...okay. Thats enough Off topic in this thread from me! - flies away -

All of those characters are pretty mobile. It may be bad mobility compared to others, (I don't notice) but it's there. Venusaur doesn't have this luxury. Also, If Venusaur was made playable, he would look like his growth was stunted at birth. It'd be so weird.
But you are right we are talking about Ivysaur.......Soooooo......Is it bad that I just realized why Ivysaur is poison type? (Poison Ivy)

Deleted member · May 6, 2015

SMAASH! Puppy said:
All of those characters are pretty mobile. It may be bad mobility compared to others, (I don't notice) but it's there. Venusaur doesn't have this luxury. Also, If Venusaur was made playable, he would look like his growth was stunted at birth. It'd be so weird.
But you are right we are talking about Ivysaur.......Soooooo......Is it bad that I just realized why Ivysaur is poison type? (Poison Ivy)

Oh yeah, and Poison Bulba, and Poison Vena, I've heard of those too

Braydon · May 6, 2015

Mewtwo said:
Oh yeah, and Poison Bulba, and Poison Vena, I've heard of those too

I've also heard of something called a toxic forumer.

SMAASH! Puppy · May 7, 2015

Mewtwo said:
Oh yeah, and Poison Bulba, and Poison Vena, I've heard of those too

Well.... Venu is derived from venom. (Or Venus, but I don't think so)

Deleted member · May 9, 2015

SMAASH! Puppy said:
Well.... Venu is derived from venom. (Or Venus, but I don't think so)

Actually I think it would have been derived from venus. It's not spelled Venosaur after all.

SMAASH! Puppy · May 9, 2015

Mewtwo said:
Actually I think it would have been derived from venus. It's not spelled Venosaur after all.

(Shrugs) I dunno. All I know is that Ivysaur+DLC=Must happen. (I've been using a lot of math recently.

)

Braydon · May 10, 2015

SMAASH! Puppy said:
(Shrugs) I dunno. All I know is that Ivysaur+DLC=Must happen. (I've been using a lot of math recently. )

As I've already pointed out he had abysmal popularity, wouldn't sell, and is basically one of the worst candidates.

SMAASH! Puppy · May 10, 2015

Braydon said:
As I've already pointed out he had abysmal popularity, wouldn't sell, and is basically one of the worst candidates.

(sarcastically) Sure Braydon......Whatever you say.

Deleted member · May 10, 2015

Braydon said:
As I've already pointed out he had abysmal popularity, wouldn't sell, and is basically one of the worst candidates.

Quiet you. Ivysaur is very popular in my heart.

BobEugCox · May 11, 2015

I am in full support of this happening (along with Squirtle). I have absolutely no problem with over representing the Pokémon series... Squirtle & Ivysaur have movesets and would be much easier to put in Smash than almost any other characters. Plus, with the roster as large as it is now, any additional characters are just icing on the cake for me.

Indefinite Minimum · May 13, 2015

I think you're all forgetting the most obvious choice for a middle evolution grass type starter Pokemon.

Deleted member · May 13, 2015

Indefinite Minimum said:
I think you're all forgetting the most obvious choice for a middle evolution grass type starter Pokemon.

Bayleef is cuter. But Ivysaur is cutest of all.

Burruni · May 13, 2015

I just wanted to pass this question of to you guys in the thread since it's something I've pondered for a bit.

In Brawl, there were 3 Tether Recovery Specials, different from the mere grab tether of

, I'm referring to the Up+B moves that functioned akin to a whip to latch onto the ledge.

's Pikmin Chain,

's Plasma Whip, and

's Vine Whip.

As

has his winged pikmin and

has the rocket heels she took from Bayonetta, do you all think that Ivy would retain her Vine Whip or would it be changed to something else? And if so, I'd like to hear your ideas for its replacement.

Deleted member · May 13, 2015

Burruni said:
I just wanted to pass this question of to you guys in the thread since it's something I've pondered for a bit.

In Brawl, there were 3 Tether Recovery Specials, different from the mere grab tether of , I'm referring to the Up+B moves that functioned akin to a whip to latch onto the ledge. 's Pikmin Chain, 's Plasma Whip, and 's Vine Whip.

As has his winged pikmin and has the rocket heels she took from Bayonetta, do you all think that Ivy would retain her Vine Whip or would it be changed to something else? And if so, I'd like to hear your ideas for its replacement.

I think we discussed this before. Let's see, I think I have three basic ideas. 1. Make Vine Whip more like a spinning attack like DK's Up B; 2. Replace Vine Whip with a move like Leaf Storm that lifts Ivysaur up in a cyclone of leaves that push others back slightly or cut them; 3. Replace Vine Whip with something like Seed Bomb that shoots downward and propels Ivysaur up, like Robin's Elwind move.

If Down B were something like Synthesis or Poison/Sleep Powder that would be neat.

BridgesWithTurtles · May 13, 2015

I have no clue how people say Ivysaur has no popularity. All stages of the original starters are well-known and beloved by fans.

I'd prefer Venusaur to Ivysaur returning, though, alongside Blastoise. Pokémon "over-representation" be damned. I'd cut out Greninja for those two next game if I could. Having a battle of the fully evolved Gen I starters in Smash would be the hypest thing after the "4 Mascots" battle we got to have this time.

Deleted member · May 14, 2015

BridgesWithTurtles said:
I have no clue how people say Ivysaur has no popularity. All stages of the original starters are well-known and beloved by fans.

I'd prefer Venusaur to Ivysaur returning, though, alongside Blastoise. Pokémon "over-representation" be damned. I'd cut out Greninja for those two next game if I could. Having a battle of the fully evolved Gen I starters in Smash would be the hypest thing after the "4 Mascots" battle we got to have this time.

That would be cool. Venusaur was never really appealing to me, though, whereas Bulbasaur and Ivysaur are pretty cute.
I also always thought Wartortle looked dumb. All the rest of the starter forms are cool. So the way they did the Pokemon Trainer in Brawl really made the most sense.

BoN~ · May 15, 2015

Sorry to everyone!!! D: Im going to update the thread now!
thanks for all! ^^

THREAD TOTALLY UPDATED
Thanks for everything and sorry for the delay, I promise you that I will be more active In smashboards! !! ^^

SMAASH! Puppy · May 15, 2015

BoN~ said:
Sorry to everyone!!! D: Im going to update the thread now!
thanks for all! ^^

YAY! BoN~ is back!

Burruni said:
I just wanted to pass this question of to you guys in the thread since it's something I've pondered for a bit.

In Brawl, there were 3 Tether Recovery Specials, different from the mere grab tether of , I'm referring to the Up+B moves that functioned akin to a whip to latch onto the ledge. 's Pikmin Chain, 's Plasma Whip, and 's Vine Whip.

As has his winged pikmin and has the rocket heels she took from Bayonetta, do you all think that Ivy would retain her Vine Whip or would it be changed to something else? And if so, I'd like to hear your ideas for its replacement.

I don't think it will be replaced, just made better.

BridgesWithTurtles said:
I have no clue how people say Ivysaur has no popularity. All stages of the original starters are well-known and beloved by fans.

Ivysaur is overshadowed by Zoruark (Surprised we haven't had one yet), Sceptile, Blastoise, and even freaking Venusaur fans. That is what we mean when we say Ivysaur isn't as popular.

Indefinite Minimum · May 15, 2015

SMAASH! Puppy said:
Ivysaur is overshadowed by Zoruark (Surprised we haven't had one yet), Sceptile, Blastoise, and even freaking Venusaur fans. That is what we mean when we say Ivysaur isn't as popular.

Grotle master race.

BoN~ · May 15, 2015

so,any idea to put in the thread?
I think that this very incomplete..

BoN~ · May 15, 2015

Why everyone wants the pm ivysaur? D:

Deleted member · May 16, 2015

SMAASH! Puppy said:
Ivysaur is overshadowed by Zoruark (Surprised we haven't had one yet), Sceptile, Blastoise, and even freaking Venusaur fans. That is what we mean when we say Ivysaur isn't as popular.

But Ivysaur has Smash Bros. precedence, which is the only thing keeping Jigglypuff in the game.

And I think this secret power of his might pull through eventually for us Ivysaur fans. It's no doubt helped Dr. Mario, Mewtwo, Lucas, and (probably) Roy return. All hail the Smash veterans! Except Snake. He can just go and

SMAASH! Puppy · May 16, 2015

Mewtwo said:
But Ivysaur has Smash Bros. precedence, which is the only thing keeping Jigglypuff in the game.

And I think this secret power of his might pull through eventually for us Ivysaur fans. It's no doubt helped Dr. Mario, Mewtwo, Lucas, and (probably) Roy return. All hail the Smash veterans! Except Snake. He can just go and

You don't like Snake? Wow. I would have expected Pichu, but Snake?

BoN~ · May 17, 2015

they realized that entry animatoon of 4 pokemons in the game leave of a Pokeball?, a pokemon team have 6 poke's, so ... wheres squirtle and ivy!?

(My english is not perfect,if not understand,tell me)

SMAASH! Puppy · May 17, 2015

BoN~ said:
they realized that entry animatoon of 4 pokemons in the game leave of a Pokeball?, a pokemon team have 6 poke's, so ... wheres squirtle and ivy!?

(My english is not perfect,if not understand,tell me)

I weighed all the facts, and I have come to a conclusion.......................................They were eaten by Charizard!

Pixel_ · May 25, 2015

SMAASH! Puppy said:
I weighed all the facts, and I have come to a conclusion.......................................They were eaten by Charizard!

Well, good thing I use Charizard. Now I'm playing Ivysaur AND Charizard.

I want Ivysaur in the game. It/she in Project M was the only perfect main for me so far in the series, but I've never really been able to play much Project M.

Deleted member · Jun 12, 2015

If Roy really does come back...that kinda makes me think Sakurai will try to bring back (nearly) all cut characters. I hope so. It's the kind of thing DLC is perfectly suited for.

Divemissile · Jun 12, 2015

Honestly, I think Grovyle would be better. We have no Gen 3 Pokemon in the roster and we have plenty of gen 1 Pokemon. Plus, Grovyle is a unique character, and not just a cut veteran.

Putuk · Jun 12, 2015

Divemissile said:
Honestly, I think Grovyle would be better. We have no Gen 3 Pokemon in the roster and we have plenty of gen 1 Pokemon. Plus, Grovyle is a unique character, and not just a cut veteran.

Oh, I just beat PMD2-Sky.
You're making me feel sad things.

SMAASH! Puppy · Jun 12, 2015

Divemissile said:
We have no Gen 3 Pokemon in the roster and we have plenty of gen 1 Pokemon.

Mistake number 1: Reps; No character should be in smash just to fill in something silly as "gen 3 reps" or just "reps" in general, nor should they stop you from liking a character.

Divemissile said:
Plus, Grovyle is a unique character, and not just a cut veteran.

Mistake number 2: Uniqueness; No matter how unique Grovyle may be, it doesn't change the fact that Ivysaur is unique too. He isn't a clone like Pichu, Roy, and Young Link. The only reason why people don't care about him is because "muh popularity" and "muh reps".
(Just so you know, this I'm trying to be funny while conveying a point. I'm not sure how well it worked. lol)

Deleted member · Jun 12, 2015

SMAASH! Puppy said:
Mistake number 1: Reps; No character should be in smash just to fill in something silly as "gen 3 reps" or just "reps" in general, nor should they stop you from liking a character.

Mistake number 2: Uniqueness; No matter how unique Grovyle may be, it doesn't change the fact that Ivysaur is unique too. He isn't a clone like Pichu, Roy, and Young Link. The only reason why people don't care about him is because "muh popularity" and "muh reps".
(Just so you know, this I'm trying to be funny while conveying a point. I'm not sure how well it worked. lol)

You're right though. Sometimes a character is brought into Smash Bros. for a good reason at the time, but later on their inclusion becomes less relevant. However, unless the character becomes essentially replaced (Young Link), I see no reason why they couldn't come back/stay. Just being in Smash in the first place makes them special in a sense. And nobody likes their favorite character to be cut. If DLC can bring cut characters back, I think it'd be perfect. That way, the developers would have prioritized new fighters before release, but can still appease fans after release.

Divemissile · Jun 12, 2015

SMAASH! Puppy said:
Mistake number 1: Reps; No character should be in smash just to fill in something silly as "gen 3 reps" or just "reps" in general, nor should they stop you from liking a character.

Mistake number 2: Uniqueness; No matter how unique Grovyle may be, it doesn't change the fact that Ivysaur is unique too. He isn't a clone like Pichu, Roy, and Young Link. The only reason why people don't care about him is because "muh popularity" and "muh reps".
(Just so you know, this I'm trying to be funny while conveying a point. I'm not sure how well it worked. lol)

You bring up good points, and I agree with you. I just wish gen 1 got less representation in the character department. 4/6 of the characters being from gen 1 is pretty bad, and 5/7 is even worse. But overall, I agree with you.

Deleted member · Jun 12, 2015

Divemissile said:
You bring up good points, and I agree with you. I just wish gen 1 got less representation in the character department. 4/6 of the characters being from gen 1 is pretty bad, and 5/7 is even worse. But overall, I agree with you.

Why is that bad? Gen I is and should remain the most special generation of Pokemon.

Divemissile · Jun 12, 2015

Mewtwo said:
Why is that bad? Gen I is and should remain the most special generation of Pokemon.

Why? Gen 1 hasn't aged that well at all, especially when compared to later gens

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