Its A Hurricane!!!.....its Ike!!!.....NO!!!.....its That Stupid Mach Tornado!!!

[misterpimp5757]

what is with this move?? it racks damage like no tommorow and is really annoying at some points....sometimes when i shield this thing it ignores my shield and bring me in the tornado.

so bsides shield grenade...is there another way to counter it?

like a utilt from under or a ftilt or a nikita or a cypher?


same thing for the drill(mk side b move) anything for that

sometimes when i do a nair he doesnt get hurt by the drill...samething happend to me once with the tornado but it only worked bcuz i was far away from him.

(bulbachu)

 

[abit_rusty]

Shield and roll?

 

[misterpimp5757]

Shield and roll?

bsides shield and dodge?

i want a secret i guess....manuever.

 

[Azgner]

projectiles work well. You can try to cancel it u-tilt, but it's riscky

 

[smallwolf24]

I've gotten lucky with just the tilts alone but other than that I think Shield Grenade is the only method safe enough to stop at close range.

 

[iRjOn]

shield dropped nades are the best option
but u can utlit it and the reason its ignores your shield is because it pokes your shield.
ftilt doesnt really break through it but i might sometimes.
Drill rush...wtf a MK that uses drill rush...anywho erm same thing for it.

 

[Azgner]

you can punish drill rush easily if you're not hit by the last hit

 

[brinboy789]

your tilts **** through it. shield drop grenade. and uh...dsmash? shield roll? not much else you can do. i don rly use mach tornado anyway

 

[Azgner]

If you can prove to Mk that tornado is not a good option, he will stop using it. And if he tries to nado you while you're high in the air, aiming for a vertical Ko, just pull a nade as he does. Meta is lighter, snake is the 3rd heavier and a fastfaller. I've already ko'ed a meta once or twice doing this. And even if you don't Ko him, you don't care for damage as much as a meta does

 

[xXArrowXx]

mach tornado is lame, grenades easily stop it also staying to the edge of the stage.

 

[Karmacide]

Blocking it is a lot easier if you shield and then hold up to move the shield to the top of your body. MK wants to get in and get out if it's being blocked so he'll stay about that height.

 

[bman in 2288]

Thing is, Tornado ***** shields. As soon as one is done, he'll be able to get another one in, and if you shield that, you're pretty much dead.

It's all about the tilts and explosives.

 

[nintendoman56]

Spam Shield + down and dodge outt of the way

 

[bman in 2288]

Not going to work. There are frames of vulnerability that everyone has after a spotdodge so that it can't be spammed. A MK will love you if you try that.

 

[Karas]

K so what your gonna wanna do is basically listen up, i have to fight a mk way to much >.< fing zaF.
i found out you got 2 things you CAN do. for the Nado nade Shield is your only option. unless u want die.
and for the drill rush. i find that his running dive does pretty good, probably the best, unless you got super utilt timing skills
@ irjon, zaf uses Drill rush alot and its pretty good do you even know what your saying?

 

[TKD]

From far away enough, press and release B aka grenade throw. Its trajectory marks an arc, making it easy for it to touch the tornado.

If he's too close, you can either uptilt at KO percentages (worth the risk I think), or powershield and aim your shield up for it to last the whole tornado.

Dropping grenades doesn't work. If they tornado the top of your head, tornado doesn't touch the grenade.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Try this thread: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=191593