Isaac (Golden Sun) in SSBB thread

[Arteen]

Hell, I'm european and Isaac is really well-known around here (at least in Spain). I don't know even a single one gamer that doesn't know who he is. And that comments about Europe... Hey, we have rights too, even if most people around here are americans D:

I don't think I was clear in what I meant. What I meant was that even Europe got the games, even though many games don't make it there, especially considering how Nintendo doesn't seem to care that much about the continent. Super Paper Mario for example, took half a year to make it across to Australia and Europe, and many games don't make it at all. Other companies put more effort into releasing major titles internationally within a very short timespan (Halo 3 for example was released in EU only one day after the NA release, and in JP only two days after the NA release). I guess Nintendo just doesn't like that continent that much.

Including Isaac would be great since Golden Sun is so popular in Europe (I didn't know that he was as popular as you said though, but I've heard that he's especially popular in Europe.). It would be a chance to include characters that aren't simply popular in Japan or even North America. Of course, Europe still gets screwed over by a later release date, but at least you get Isaac?

 

[Magically Enhanced Hobo]

So you're saying Isaac will get in over Ridley, I doubt it.

But with everything else, I agree.

Not quite. I understand Ridley's chances are way higher, but Isaac would be a...Well, I'm not really sure how to put it. He's not more likely than Ridley, just more deserving, as far as I'm concerned, but I guess I'm biased.

What I meant by being in a better position is that Isaac comes from a new series as opposed to an already established series in Smash, and it just seems like a better choice to add in important characters from as many series as possible, as opposed to less important characters from series that already have representation(Looking at you, Ashley).

 

[ThreeX]

Isaac = beast ^^; been playing through golden sun 1 all over again just cause it's beautiful <3.. that'd be so nasty if isaac got into brawl (even though i kinda liked felix' design better, but eeh w/e.. and alex is pretty sick looking too) but anyways.. mmhm, isaac for brawl plz @_@

 

[rblair]

For the movesets for the new thread i think you should include screenshots for each move from the game. so people know what say, ragnarok or spire look like. pretty sure theres a screenie of every move on one of the major GS fansites. That`d be a nice addition

 

[RandomGuy42]

Hello Isaac supporters.

Recently me and some other posters were discussing what would be a good "icon" for the GS series. I made two quick examples to give a rough idea of what they would look like:

Djinni: http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/Dark_Random/GSicondjinni.jpg

Lighthouse: http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/Dark_Random/GSiconlighthouse.jpg

They don't look very good because they were put together quickly to give a rough indication, that's why they don't look so good.

EDIT: Just found out someone made a much better Djinni one:

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/4684/worldb24mq7.jpg

Anyway which would you prefer/think looks better? I want to gather a few opinions.

 

[Magically Enhanced Hobo]

That Venus Djinni is definitely nice. I always thought it'd end up being a sunburst for some reason, but the Djinni or Lighthouse makes more sense.

That icon should totally be added to the new thread >.>

 

[VVayfarer]

I think the djinn icon would work out better. Why? Because i didn't even (clearly) recognize a lighthouse in the other picture. (no offense)

Will the new thread be done within this week? Or the next?

 

[Storm Eagle]

What about the Golden Sun symbol in the title screen for the icon? Or would it be too similar to the Mother icon?

 

[silver777]

What about the Golden Sun symbol in the title screen for the icon? Or would it be too similar to the Mother icon?

if Issac is included, I am pretty sure his icon would be the golden sun as you said, the Dijin is a possibility, the lighthouse?? no offense but who though of that????

 

[VVayfarer]

This has been bothering me (a lot!), so i thought of asking about it here:
Is Isaac called Issac in the US (Japan?), or why do people write his name so?

//Ok, so is he called Issac in the US?

 

[silver777]

This has been bothering me (a lot!), so i thought of asking about it here:
Is Isaac called Issac in the US (Japan?), or why do people write his name so?

Isaac's name is Robin in Japan.

 

[VVayfarer]

Isaac's name is Robin in Japan.

So is he called Issac in the US, or is it just an overused typo? (I'm starting to think it's the latter...)

//I searched Issac with google, and i found no matches. So it is just a widely used typo.
Why can't people understand he's Isaac?

 

[SuichimoTheDragoon]

Issac is just an overused typo, although it is a common way to spell the name. His name is Isaac here in the US.

 

[Storm Eagle]

In Germany, his name is pronounced E-sah-uck.

 

[gangstajuice02]

he could have a chance but not the lowest or the highest!

 

[gangstajuice02]

well just a small chance!!!

 

[Rubydragon]

...You mean like your Shadow? Or greater?

I like the Dijnn one, I can totally see that as his icon.

Isaac doesn't have bad chances at all really... It's more like other characters have good chances and just simply overpower Isaac in terms of games and popularity. That and Sakurai's judgment.

 

[Aqua Rock X]

Hello Isaac supporters.

Recently me and some other posters were discussing what would be a good "icon" for the GS series. I made two quick examples to give a rough idea of what they would look like:

Djinni: http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/Dark_Random/GSicondjinni.jpg

Lighthouse: http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/Dark_Random/GSiconlighthouse.jpg

They don't look very good because they were put together quickly to give a rough indication, that's why they don't look so good.

EDIT: Just found out someone made a much better Djinni one:

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/4684/worldb24mq7.jpg

Anyway which would you prefer/think looks better? I want to gather a few opinions.

Yeah, Djinn is the way to go. I can't see anything else that would represent the Golden Sun series better.

And as far as Isaac's chances go, I believe they are really good. Personally, I'd go so far as to say that he has the best chances of all 1st and 2nd party characters after Ridley and Krystal. That's how faithful I am of Isaac. He has tremendous moveset possibilities, represents a highly popular series that Nintendo themselves asked for a sequel to, and has multiple letters worth of Sakurai's interest. Well only two letters, but that's still good.

 

[Storm Eagle]

To prepare myself for Isaac's appearance in the game, I started to play Golden Sun once again. It's been a couple of years since the last time.

And now I know which song I want to hear in the game: The Battle Theme played during the Colosso fights! That's freakin AWESOME!

http://208.53.158.138/soundtracks/golden-sun-the-lost-age/vavndjgzor/64-the-men-who-cleave-steel.mp3

 

[Bassoonist]

I agree the Colosso Battle Theme would fit very well in Brawl. Not as well as Venus Lighthouse, but hey, can't we have them all thanks to "My Music"?

Just to let you guys know I'm still working on the topic. I'm slow and I've kind of procrastinated... Don't kill me.

 

[Lord Viper]

Did anyone did Isaac's taunts? Victory Stance?

 

[SuichimoTheDragoon]

Did anyone did Isaac's taunts? Victory Stance?

I figured his victory stance would be Flint coming out and jumping around on Isaac, or maybe perching on his shoulder, the way they do in some of the artwork.

 

[Magically Enhanced Hobo]

This has been bothering me (a lot!), so i thought of asking about it here:
Is Isaac called Issac in the US (Japan?), or why do people write his name so?

//Ok, so is he called Issac in the US?

Nah, it's Isaac with 2 A's, but we Americans are (for the most part) too illiterate to worry about such trivialities as syntax and grammar, amirite?

 

[ßruK]

I was just wondering... can Isaac Borrow some of his attack's from Marth/Roy moveset? In case Marth isn't in.... I mean, NOT the entire moveset, (obviously not the specials) but maybe some??

 

[Bassoonist]

I was just wondering... can Isaac Borrow some of his attack's from Marth/Roy moveset? In case Marth isn't in.... I mean, NOT the entire moveset, (obviously not the specials) but maybe some??

Marth will be in. -_-

I don't really understand what you're getting out anyways? You mean Isaac using sword attacks for standard moves? I don't understand why they'd have to be Marth's.

 

[Pulse]

Isaac fights with long swords, mostly. His sword would likley be fairly long, but such a weapon also makes for decreased agillity. Most, if not all of Marth and Roy's attacks focus on being quick to swing the weapon, something that would be difficult for Isaac. Besides, every sign points towards Marth's return, so I wouldn't worry about it much.=)

Edit: Dang, too late.

 

[HarryTheChin]

To answer your question, Isaac is the main character of Golden Sun, and a party member in Golden Sun: The Lost Age. It was an incredibly unique game, revolving around the use of magical powers called Psynergy. Go and give it a whirl, it should be down to 10 bucks or less by now.

We all want him in Brawl not only because his game was awesome, but because he has the potential for an incredibly unique moveset, and all the great music from his games would be a welcome addition to Brawl.

Yeah, I might take a gander on this game. It sounds pretty interesting with one character already.

 

[RandomGuy42]

To prepare myself for Isaac's appearance in the game, I started to play Golden Sun once again. It's been a couple of years since the last time.

And now I know which song I want to hear in the game: The Battle Theme played during the Colosso fights! That's freakin AWESOME!

http://208.53.158.138/soundtracks/golden-sun-the-lost-age/vavndjgzor/64-the-men-who-cleave-steel.mp3

There is definitely a few tunes I'd like to hear, such as the obvious Venus Lighthouse tune (Venus Lighthouse Aerie for stage, also!), mabe Mars Lighthouse too. Definitely a few of the battle tunes, maybe even a medley of the battle tunes or overworld tunes. Then there are a few random ones that I think could fit, like the Tolbi-bound ship song.

And thanks for the opinions, guys.

 

[Mini Mic]

Here's a Golden Sun pic I drew just recently:

Just seemed appropriate for this topic

 

[Magically Enhanced Hobo]

That's really good, Mic!

Crap, today's update makes me want to see Isaac in Subspace...How awesome would it be if he was with Captain Falcon and Snake?

 

[raphtmarqui]

Here's a Golden Sun pic I drew just recently:

Just seemed appropriate for this topic

Nice drawing! What attack is Satrous using?

 

[Rubydragon]

I love that picture. It looks really nice.

I forgot how awesome that song was, I'd like to see it in too.

A remix of all the battle themes? My ears would explode in utter enjoyment!

 

[Deleted member]

Golden Sun for Brawl!

(Not my work, but its cool.)

 

[Ndot]

Now thats a sick picture! Nice pic MIc.

 

[Rubydragon]

Isaac looks amazingly cool in that picture.

 

[Ndot]

Mia is hot lol.

 

[Rubydragon]

Please tell me the third one is Sheba and not Ivan...

 

[Boofer]

Anybody notice that 15 of the top 20 characters from the melee poll made it into the game by brawl (in some form)?

1) Koopa [Super Mario series]: 169 (Bowser)
(2) Princess Peach [Super Mario series]: 66
(3) Wario [Super Mario series]: 65
(4) Great King Dedede [Kirby of the Stars series]: 46
(5) Ganon(dorf) [Legend of Zelda]: 36
(6) James Bond [GoldenEye 007]: 35
(6) Mewtwo [Pocket Monsters]: 35
(8) Banjo & Kazooie [Banjo & Kazooie's Big Adventure]: 33 ([Banjo-Kazooie])
(9) Kinopio [Super Mario series]: 27 (Toad)
(10) Mew [Pocket Monsters]: 24

(11) Marth [Fire Emblem]: 21
(12) Dosei-san [Mother 2]: 18 (Mr. Saturn [Earthbound])
(12) Satoshi (main character) [Pocket Monsters]: 18
(12) character from Fire Emblem [Fire Emblem]: 18
(15) Gooey [Kirby of the Stars series]: 17
(16) Diddy Kong [Donkey Kong series]: 15
(16) Sukapon [Joy Mecha Fight]: 15
(18) someone from Pokemon [Pocket Monsters]: 12
(19) Meta Knight [Kirby of the Stars series]: 11
(19) Lugia [Pocket Monsters]: 11

I didn't know the poll was that credible. Now I truly believe he'll be in the game in some form. It better not be as an effing AT though.

 

[Rubydragon]

How does that increase his chances again?

 

[raphtmarqui]

Because Isaac is on the top 20 of the Brawl poll.