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One of my main points. For them not to use Golden Sun music would be such a waste. Honestly to me it rivals Final Fantasy as some of the best RPG themes.
Yeah, I feel the same way. But I'd prefer Isaac, but I won't complain at all if any of them.
I don't think you'll have to worry about that, considering I'd completely forgotten than she even existed before you just mentioned her.
LMFAO
It was just a joke. I understand and love all 3 games. GS is the only series in which I've played through and beaten every game, like everyone else here.
True. How good of chances do you all think GS has of being represented? I feel it's one of the last few IPs that isn't covered in the roster.
Felix was 18.
I think the chances of getting a GS character are decent, but not superb. Sakurai still basing some inclusions off Brawl popularity is a very good start, as is Sakurai's habit of taking from the largest remaining unrepresented series, but as there are still several ahead of GS (like Mii and Punch-Out, not to mention a new retro and perhaps Pac-Man along with the three we've already received) it's pretty up in the air. I think it all depends on how much Sakurai is going to stress unrepresented series this time around, which might be a little greater than usual considering the existing series don't have as many clear omissions as they did in previous games, but it's hardly a sure thing.
Well put. I've been hoping sakurai looks at the old ATs for some character ideas, just to boost his chances.
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that the stars will have to align with Golden Sun for an adept to get on the roster. Here's hoping!
Recent game popularity isn't needed to help anyone's place in the game. Characters like Pit, Ice Climbers, Yoshi, I mean, they all didn't really have games coming out around Brawl's time.
What kind of asinine statement is this? You do realize that saying that Xenoblade Chronicles has no relation to Nintendo is like saying Super Mario Bros., The Legend of Zelda, and Metorid has no relation to Nintendo? Hell, I can even go on a tangent saying that the game is far more intertwined with Nintendo considering it's actually developed by one of the company's subsidiaries instead of a independent partnered company.
I'm thinking like you, that Smash Bros should represent the history of Nintendo. And indeed, Golden Sun was a great part of this history. But because of the relevancy, there is many others games that made this history and not represented yet : The legend of Stafy, Custom Robo, Sin & Punishment... So what does Isaac have compared with Saki from S&P ? What I'm trying to say, is that the history argument is really good, but there is a lot of pretender based solely on that.
Now I'm feeling better ! Indeed, there is may be a chance that Golden Sun was still relevant at this time, and thus Isaac would have been certainly considered even if he didn't make it. Hopefully he made it !
Please, it's posts like these that are fanning the flames of the stupid Isaac vs. Shulk rivalry here. Keep the Xenoblade hate to yourself.
If Golden Sun had a sequel at the same level of the GBA games, i would be more confident about Isaac chances, though he does have the possibility to appear, i would complain about Dark Dawn of something more if he doents.
Im agree with something, and is that Golden Sun deserves to be representated. But saying that Xenoblade is not part of Nintendo is out of place, because he (Shulk) is a Nintendo character and because we dont want to start the flame war Isaac-Shulk again. In fact, the supporters of Minor characters, should team up and go against major characters like Ridley, King K. Rool and Rosalina (joke).
Personally with the exception of Punch-Out and Nintendo Wars, i dont think that there is another minor franchise at the level of Golden Sun, Stafy at the moment is almost exclusive of Japan, then Custom Robo that is a series that also shares something with Stafy, the horrible distribution and then Sin & Punishment that could be considered a minor inside the Minor group. But well, those are simply opinions.
I want to point something, although North America was the place in where Golden Sun had his best reception, it has a good reception also in both Europe and Japan. So yes, he is more popular in "The West" but that dont means that he is unpopular or Uknown in Japan. In fact if we compare Dark Dawn and Xenoblade sales in Japan they are stupidly close (inb4 someone says that comparing Golden Sun sales to Xenoblade sales is not fair). So basically Xenoblade reception seems to be similar in that aspect to Golden Sun, mainly localized in North America, but also considerable outside this.
I'm sure some of the ATs were considered for playability last time around in early stages of production, and I'd be surprised if Isaac wasn't them. Not to say that will effect anything this time around, just that I'd suspect at one time or another Sakurai probably did entertain the notion considering Isaac's popularity and GS's standing pre-Brawl.
If you want to make it, feel free. DD isn't such a stain on the series that we can't even use an icon from it.
You know I've never thought about that, but it's a good idea!
To be fair, that was a popularity spike caused by DD. And yes, Isaac's decline in Japanese popularity is worrisome, but the fact that he's still in the TOP 10 after not being the protagonist of a game for THIRTEEN YEARS, not to mention that Sakurai is using Brawl popularity to some extent and that characters who haven't been at their popularity peak before have still been included means that Isaac shouldn't be counted out yet.
When the roster was composed in 2012 a 2010 game was recent, even if Isaac wasn't the protagonist.
Not necessarily, but it would hinge on there being future GS games, which could happen with the popularity rejuvenation Isaac will bring to the series should he be included.
Shulk is a first-party Nintendo character created by a first-party studio that isn't Nintendo themselves, same as FE, Kirby, Mother, etc.
That's pretty subjective.
I agree GS is more deserving at this point than Xenoblade, but by that logic Wars should've got a rep a long time ago, and definitely before some of the existing series. Even like... StarTropics should've...
A series with unanimous worldwide releases, about like five or six times the audience size, more games, a notable amount of popularity?
Just because those series are all unrepresented doesn't mean they're all of the same merit or factors in their favour.
Dark Dawn was the only one not well received in Japan. GS1 and 2 were both received more positively in Japan (and worldwide) than Xenoblade.
Well there certainly won't be a new GS before Smash 4, but if we get a GS character in Smash it could very possibly lead to a new title considering the popularity it will bring back to the series, as Smash inclusion has done for several series previously.
I agree. I'm not going to say without inclusion in Smash we'll never get a new GS or anything, but having a playable GS character is without a doubt the best chance the series has at regaining its previous popularity and standing.
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I don't have any hate towards the game. I'm not fanning any flames nor am I saying anything ill towards it. I stated a game is more deserving the longer its been around. Its a celebration of Nintendo and as such familar faces from years past. That's all I said, and it's ignorant to read into it that far.
Go tell that to the Starfy supporters.
That's just Young Horsetail being a horse butt.
Bark breath? Is that even a phrase?
I feel exactly the same way.
Well...
Agreed.
