Isaac for DLC - One day. Some day. Golden Sunday.

[Falgor]

I still don't get why Nintendo would waste the Inklings by making them for Smash 4 DLC:
- Splatoon is hyped enough to stand on its own. The game doesn't need Smash's help anymore.
- The whole gimmick for the Inklings requires a lot of thinking, meaning a lot of time: How will the ink work in Smash? If you don't give the team enough time to properly imagine it, the character will be bland/bad.
- DLC means not everyone will buy them; on the contrary, people buying the costumes can be angry to see the full character coming after they spend their money on costumes.
- Why waste resources on costumes if you intend to make the full character to begin with?
- They're most probably going to be the most requested newcomers for Smash 5, and therefore will be the perfect characters to hype the game. If they calculate this enough, it could even promote Splatoon 2.

People are so happy to see Nintendo releasing a new IP, a good one, a correctly advertised one that they don't even think that making them so soon is just wasting their potential. I want the Inklings in Smash, don't get me wrong. But certainly not this soon.
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This is not the first Smash ballot, believe it or not. This is the first one for AMERICA but a Japanese Brawl ballot was a determining factor in Sonic's inclusion. And with Kojimas place at Konami now? Don't make me laugh; we will never see another Konami character in smash. And as for Capcom? Ryu is getting a new game. Mega Man isn't.

I hate to be a pessimist but i think all of this gives Isaac a fighting chance at inclusion. All those people who want Snake or Simon? Out of luck I'm afraid.



Im sure Bandai's involvement in smash had no effect on that outcome either?

Also, let me know when that promised high-profile Pacman sequel is set for release. My point still stands.

Not only "for AMERICA" but "for the entire world", please.
I agree on Snake not being possible anymore, just like any other Konami character. At the very least not for this game.
I'm not hyped by Ryu, but I still think he's going to be added.
About MegaMan, don't dig his grave so soon: http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/02/new-mega-man-tv-series-coming-2017
This + his Smash appearance smells pretty good actually, imo.
Finally, Pacman is there because Miyamoto wanted it + he's a legend of the video games, the fact he gets a new game or not is irrelevant.

Edit: About E3, I'm going to be pessimistic and say we'll get Wolf, and maaaaaaybe Ryu. But there's other occasions for Ryu and Roy. I won't claim there's no possibility for a first Ballot character but it seems really unlikely to me, right now.
The same goes for Golden Sun 4, seems a bit too early. I still hope we're going to see something like a title announced, though.

 

[JaidynReiman]

I still don't get why Nintendo would waste the Inklings by making them for Smash 4 DLC:
- Splatoon is hyped enough to stand on its own. The game doesn't need Smash's help anymore.
- The whole gimmick for the Inklings requires a lot of thinking, meaning a lot of time: How will the ink work in Smash? If you don't give the team enough time to properly imagine it, the character will be bland/bad.
- DLC means not everyone will buy them; on the contrary, people buying the costumes can be angry to see the full character coming after they spend their money on costumes.
- Why waste resources on costumes if you intend to make the full character to begin with?
- They're most probably going to be the most requested newcomers for Smash 5, and therefore will be the perfect characters to hype the game. If they calculate this enough, it could even promote Splatoon 2.

People are so happy to see Nintendo releasing a new IP, a good one, a correctly advertised one that they don't even think that making them so soon is just wasting their potential. I want the Inklings in Smash, don't get me wrong. But certainly not this soon.

I agree for the most part. I could potentially see them as a ballot character, but I don't think Nintendo really wants to do it right now, they want Splatoon to stand on its own. I personally don't think they'll be a ballot character either, and that the Inkling costumes are basically the only Splatoon representation we'll get as DLC.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

You people still don't think Ryu is coming after his data was added after the fact?

 

[JohnnySparkxs]

Lucas is going to be released 14th June and I'm super hyped. Also, we might get lucky and we could hear Golden Sun's theme speeded up and lasting for about 10 seconds. It would be like Royu's leak, but with a much more awesome and unique character.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I still don't get why Nintendo would waste the Inklings by making them for Smash 4 DLC:
1- Splatoon is hyped enough to stand on its own. The game doesn't need Smash's help anymore.
2 The whole gimmick for the Inklings requires a lot of thinking, meaning a lot of time: How will the ink work in Smash? If you don't give the team enough time to properly imagine it, the character will be bland/bad.
3- DLC means not everyone will buy them; on the contrary, people buying the costumes can be angry to see the full character coming after they spend their money on costumes.
-4 Why waste resources on costumes if you intend to make the full character to begin with?
5- They're most probably going to be the most requested newcomers for Smash 5, and therefore will be the perfect characters to hype the game. If they calculate this enough, it could even promote Splatoon 2.

People are so happy to see Nintendo releasing a new IP, a good one, a correctly advertised one that they don't even think that making them so soon is just wasting their potential. I want the Inklings in Smash, don't get me wrong. But certainly not this soon.

1. Smash DLC is being chosen by character popularity on the Ballot so far, meaning this is a reason they'd be DLC
2. Considering this applies to the newcomers (Rosalina is a mother to Lumas, she wouldn't let them get hurt like this, Shulk's Monado Arts are fairly inaccurate, Speed being the only one that really has any connection as Shield blocks 1 Talent Art and Buster is a bigass sword swing) This isn't a problem
3. You are saying people will be angry that a highly requested character from a stupidly popular game that they likely want is DLC. Besides, costumes are only 1 currency per system iirc
4. Most of the costumes are of characters that are playable, and the Majora costume is only a mask but still full price, not to mention costumes are much less work, so this could be made to advertise Splatoon while a character would take too long to work on
5. Splatoon has been called the Mario Kart of it's genre by Nintendo, they aren't waiting this long to make Splatoon, especially considering the huge succes of the game already, not to mention there are other characters that this applies to. Imagine, a new Metroid is announced and Ridley is announced as a newcomer at the same presentation, or a new GS and Isaac in the new Smash, or a new DK game and K.Rool. You can do this with any popular character
EDIT: I absolutely hate the idea of Inklings in Smash but I'm always willing to call people out on BS

 

[Skyblade12]

1. Smash DLC is being chosen by character popularity on the Ballot so far, meaning this is a reason they'd be DLC

Smash DLC is being suggested by popularity in the ballot. It's being chosen by Nintendo and Sakurai. They even specifically said the ballot will give them ideas about character demand that may be reflected in Smash and other games.

Not saying that I disagree with you overall, just on that point.

Personally, I think Inklings would be a much better fit for Smash 5, or a later DLC choice. Ballot or no, I don't think an entirely untested IP should get representation.

 

[FalKoopa]

I do think it's a little too soon for Inklings. The way their costumes were advertised did lower their chances considerably, imo. Smash 5, I'll say.

 

[Coaltergeist]

You people still don't think Ryu is coming after his data was added after the fact?

I just think that it's unlikely if you think about it from a logistical standpoint. I am fully prepared to be proven wrong, but if you think about it, it doesn't make much sense from a marketing standpoint.

Which means Nintendo might go through with it . We all know their amazing marketing skills (thru have gotten better after the wii u's launch thankfully)

 

[JohnnySparkxs]

Back in the GBA era, Nintendo's marketing here at Portugal was almost inexistent, that nowadays, although it has gained a lot more recognition, when people talk about videogames, they immediatly think of Playstation.

I wouldn't mind Golden Sun 4 to have the Dark Dawn treatment at E3. This year we get the announce a little trailer with some beta gameplay, and by next year E3, we get to see much more of the game and a release date. Not only that, this could be used as a way to put Isaac in Smash Bros.

 

[Wintropy]

Snake was added to Brawl the same year that MGS4 was released.

Marketing don't mean jack.

 

[Schnee117]

I could see Camelot being on a two year development cycle shifting between Golden Sun, a Mario Tennis game and a Mario Golf game before going back to Golden Sun.

That's more of a hope for a GS4 next year though than looking at their present development pattern because it could be something completely different next instead of GS4.

And wasn't added because of Binding Blade coming out just after Melee?

 

[Oracle_Summon]

Snake was added to Brawl the same year that MGS4 was released.

Marketing don't mean jack.

Snake was added as a favor to Kojima.

Regardless, I assume many of Nintendo's fans would rather them add someone that solely benefits their marketing and helps them further profit from it. With how Third Party companies and many others giving Nintendo the shaft, I would rather Nintendo put its foot down and refuse those that shaft it.

Many companies would like their character in Smash Brothers for marketing purposes and would have no problem giving Nintendo the short end of the stick as thanks.

 

[Wintropy]

Snake was added as a favor to Kojima.

Regardless, I assume many of Nintendo's fans would rather them add someone that solely benefits their marketing and helps them further profit from it. With how Third Party companies and many others giving Nintendo the shaft, I would rather Nintendo put its foot down and refuse those that shaft it.

Many companies would like their character in Smash Brothers for marketing purposes and would have no problem giving Nintendo the short end of the stick as thanks.

I know he was added as a favour to Kojima. What I'm saying is, it has nothing to do with marketing. Sakurai could have denied the favour for fear of promoting the competition. He didn't, because that would be ridiculous.

Ryu is capable of standing on his own merits. It doesn't matter what he's promoting or why: if Capcom and Nintendo are cool with it, that's all that really matters.

 

[Oracle_Summon]

I know he was added as a favour to Kojima. What I'm saying is, it has nothing to do with marketing. Sakurai could have denied the favour for fear of promoting the competition. He didn't, because that would be ridiculous.

Ryu is capable of standing on his own merits. It doesn't matter what he's promoting or why: if Capcom and Nintendo are cool with it, that's all that really matters.

The whole point is that some Nintendo fans want Nintendo to resist being the chew toy of the video game industry and have guidelines to what they do. Which is why many people bring up the marketing point when it comes to Smash Brothers.

It is no surprise that Nintendo is the butt monkey of the video game industry with how they are viewed by others. And a good number of fans are tired of this attitude from others towards Nintendo and want Nintendo to refuse the benefits they give to other companies with reaping rewards themselves.

On a personal note from me, Ryu may stand on his own merits but he has to bring something along with him to help Nintendo. Nintendo vs. Capcom would be a start.

Start to the point: If the rest of the video game industry is going to put Nintendo on the back burner, then Nintendo needs to prove that no favors are handed out.

 

[Wintropy]

The whole point is that some Nintendo fans want Nintendo to resist being the chew toy of the video game industry and have guidelines to what they do. Which is why many people bring up the marketing point when it comes to Smash Brothers.

It is no surprise that Nintendo is the butt monkey of the video game industry with how they are viewed by others. And a good number of fans are tired of this attitude from others towards Nintendo and want Nintendo to refuse the benefits they give to other companies with reaping rewards themselves.

On a personal note from me, Ryu may stand on his own merits but he has to bring something along with him to help Nintendo. Nintendo vs. Capcom would be a start.

Start to the point: If the rest of the video game industry is going to put Nintendo on the back burner, then Nintendo needs to prove that no favors are handed out.

Huh? I'm sorry, I don't get how or why Nintendo allowing all-star characters into their all-star fighting game is contingent to them being the "chew toy" of the industry.

Ryu has more than enough merits as an individual character. One more third-party isn't going to break the game.

And anyway, there's no reason why we can't have Ryu and Isaac. They both have their fans and they would both be great additions.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

More Ryu discussions? Did I somehow end up in his thread?

 

[Deleted member]

Snake was added to Brawl the same year that MGS4 was released.

Marketing don't mean jack.

To Sakurai and his choices for the base version of Smash 4, it sure as hell felt like it.

 

[Burruni]

To Sakurai and his choices for the base version of Smash 4, it sure as hell felt like it.

By which you mean characters from mostly recent titles because there were few major new IPs to put in? And even then we got four sizable series getting their foot in the door for Smash and two of Gaming's biggest icons that have damn near nothing to do with their recent or even semi-recent appearances

 

[Oracle_Summon]

Huh? I'm sorry, I don't get how or why Nintendo allowing all-star characters into their all-star fighting game is contingent to them being the "chew toy" of the industry.

Nintendo All-Stars to be exact. Now, it is how every Third Party company and Video Game Journalist is giving Nintendo the boot and talking as though they are not needed in the industry. Third Party companies are shunning them and Video Game Journalists are playing down any games that they release. Wii U is dead for click bait articles sort of thing.

Nintendo being a chew toy since they would benefit those who would not even spit in their direction unless they got something out of it. Third parties mainly stay away from Nintendo and go for Sony or Microsoft, Nintendo giving Third Party character spots on the roster without something that benefits them solely is biting them in the rear and shows that Nintendo will do anything to get a bone thrown at them.

Ryu has more than enough merits as an individual character. One more third-party isn't going to break the game.

Having a Nintendo exclusive game would solely benefit Nintendo and the Nintendo fans of Ryu himself. Megaman and Snake got in without really giving Nintendo fans exclusive games, but they should have and should in the future. Something Megaman Legends 3 would have been wonderful to have along with Megaman's announcement.

And anyway, there's no reason why we can't have Ryu and Isaac. They both have their fans and they would both be great additions.

That is not the point I am making. Roster size is not the problem as it can be increased, the problem is for the reason why a character was let in.

Ryu should be brought in if Nintendo gets an exclusive Nintendo vs. Capcom deal (or something that can fit the size of that game).

To make sure this point stands clear, Megaman and Snake should have given Nintendo new and exclusive games for Nintendo consoles to have their character's in. Edit: As well as Pacman.

Edit: Being the Chew Toy shows when a Video Game company gets the advertisements and publicity for having their character in Smash and does nothing worth compensating for to have that character in. Some companies just half-ass their exclusive to get a character in (half-assing meaning just a re-release of an old game or watered down version of a game on other consoles).

 

[POKEMANSPIKA]

Nintendo All-Stars to be exact. Now, it is how every Third Party company and Video Game Journalist is giving Nintendo the boot and talking as though they are not needed in the industry. Third Party companies are shunning them and Video Game Journalists are playing down any games that they release. Wii U is dead for click bait articles sort of thing.

Nintendo being a chew toy since they would benefit those who would not even spit in their direction unless they got something out of it. Third parties mainly stay away from Nintendo and go for Sony or Microsoft, Nintendo giving Third Party character spots on the roster without something that benefits them solely is biting them in the rear and shows that Nintendo will do anything to get a bone thrown at them.

Having a Nintendo exclusive game would solely benefit Nintendo and the Nintendo fans of Ryu himself. Megaman and Snake got in without really giving Nintendo fans exclusive games, but they should have and should in the future. Something Megaman Legends 3 would have been wonderful to have along with Megaman's announcement.



That is not the point I am making. Roster size is not the problem as it can be increased, the problem is for the reason why a character was let in.

Ryu should be brought in if Nintendo gets an exclusive Nintendo vs. Capcom deal (or something that can fit the size of that game).

To make sure this point stands clear, Megaman and Snake should have given Nintendo new and exclusive games for Nintendo consoles to have their character's in. Edit: As well as Pacman.

Edit: Being the Chew Toy shows when a Video Game company gets the advertisements and publicity for having their character in Smash and does nothing worth compensating for to have that character in. Some companies just half-*** their exclusive to get a character in (half-assing meaning just a re-release of an old game or watered down version of a game on other consoles).

Namco made Smash so I'm thinking Sakurai adding Pac-Man was like giving back.

 

[Oracle_Summon]

Namco made Smash so I'm thinking Sakurai adding Pac-Man was like giving back.

It is possible to see it that way, but I would have liked something more to go along with Pac-Man (more than what we got).

 

[JohnnySparkxs]

It is possible to see it that way, but I would have liked something more to go along with Pac-Man (more than what we got).

Well, my most wanted Namco representative is Lloyd Irving.

 

[Oracle_Summon]

Well, my most wanted Namco representative is Lloyd Irving.

Not character wise, but game wise when it came to Pac-Man. More exclusive games to go along with him.

 

[Falgor]

1. Smash DLC is being chosen by character popularity on the Ballot so far, meaning this is a reason they'd be DLC
2. Considering this applies to the newcomers (Rosalina is a mother to Lumas, she wouldn't let them get hurt like this, Shulk's Monado Arts are fairly inaccurate, Speed being the only one that really has any connection as Shield blocks 1 Talent Art and Buster is a bigass sword swing) This isn't a problem
3. You are saying people will be angry that a highly requested character from a stupidly popular game that they likely want is DLC. Besides, costumes are only 1 currency per system iirc
4. Most of the costumes are of characters that are playable, and the Majora costume is only a mask but still full price, not to mention costumes are much less work, so this could be made to advertise Splatoon while a character would take too long to work on
5. Splatoon has been called the Mario Kart of it's genre by Nintendo, they aren't waiting this long to make Splatoon, especially considering the huge succes of the game already, not to mention there are other characters that this applies to. Imagine, a new Metroid is announced and Ridley is announced as a newcomer at the same presentation, or a new GS and Isaac in the new Smash, or a new DK game and K.Rool. You can do this with any popular character
EDIT: I absolutely hate the idea of Inklings in Smash but I'm always willing to call people out on BS

1. Do you really think Nintendo will blindly take the winner of the Ballot, whoever it is? Let's just imagine (I don't think it's realistic) that the winner is Goku or Shrek. They won't put those characters in Smash. For more logical characters, let's take Ridley or Waluigi. They won't be characters in this Smash. Or possibly in any Smash, for Ridley.

It's the same for the Inklings. If they didn't intend to do them from start, they won't make them for this Smash. They already have a list, I guarantee it.

2. So, do you mean they can do anything with any character, you'll buy it? Huh, I'm sorry but if a character isn't interesting, I'll be mad, personally. It's not even a question of accuracy, it's a question of being original. For instance in Smash I can't see the Inklings use their ink to climb walls, so that means they'll need some time to find something good enough to make them more than just a normal projectile user. This is a problem, you don't just throw a character in the game like this.

3. I'm not saying they'll be angry to see the Inklings (but they should if it was to happen). I say that making them after making people buy mere costumes is a bad move. And yes, they don't cost much, but they're not free.

4. "Most of the costumes" = 2 costumes on 10. Link and Megaman, that's all. The others are not playable. The rest works in my favor: Costumes were made to advertise Splatoon just a little bit but in time. What's the point of making the full character for Smash if, when they're going to be ready, the vast majority of people interested in the game will already have bought it?
On the contrary, they'll need to advertise Splatoon 2, and Smash 5 is going to be the perfect mean to to it. It's even more necessary because, as far as I know, a sequel is almost always more difficult to sell, because it's not an innovation anymore.

5. Do they make 2 Mario Kart games for each console? No. When they make more than one main Mario game for a console, they're already criticized (and it's justified). Making Splatoon 2 too soon is the best way of milking this new franchise too much. We won't see a new Splatoon for the Wii U, they'll wait for the Wii U's successor, just like for Smash 5.

And no, it doesn't work with other characters, or not nearly as well: Metroid is an already well established franchise, and anyway Ridley won't happen. It's hard to tell this but Isaac + Golden Sun won't generate as much hype, it's too niche for that. DK works better, but it's not a new IP. You can't do this with any popular character. Smash 5 will need characters from new franchises, and when I say new, I mean from 2012 at the very, very least. It's not every day Nintendo creates a new big IP. There won't be a lot of them in the years to come, so they need to save them for when it will matter. Smash 4 DLC doesn't need such important characters.
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Dark Souls 3 seems to be a thing, and a new Tales Of (Berseria) was just announced. Since Motoi Sakuraba does the music for these series, does it mean it's going to be difficult for him to work on GS4's music?

 

[Schnee117]

So how 'bout that Isaac huh? He's a cool guy with his Venus Adept abilities and Sword.

Dark Souls 3 seems to be a thing, and a new Tales Of (Berseria) was just announced. Since Motoi Sakuraba does the music for these series, does it mean it's going to be difficult for him to work on GS4's music?

*Sun praising intensifies*

DS3 is aiming for 2016 and it depends on when Berseria releases. Probably some trouble for GS4 as a result.

 

[Coaltergeist]

1. Do you really think Nintendo will blindly take the winner of the Ballot, whoever it is? Let's just imagine (I don't think it's realistic) that the winner is Goku or Shrek. They won't put those characters in Smash. For more logical characters, let's take Ridley or Waluigi. They won't be characters in this Smash. Or possibly in any Smash, for Ridley.

It's the same for the Inklings. If they didn't intend to do them from start, they won't make them for this Smash. They already have a list, I guarantee it.

2. So, do you mean they can do anything with any character, you'll buy it? Huh, I'm sorry but if a character isn't interesting, I'll be mad, personally. It's not even a question of accuracy, it's a question of being original. For instance in Smash I can't see the Inklings use their ink to climb walls, so that means they'll need some time to find something good enough to make them more than just a normal projectile user. This is a problem, you don't just throw a character in the game like this.

3. I'm not saying they'll be angry to see the Inklings (but they should if it was to happen). I say that making them after making people buy mere costumes is a bad move. And yes, they don't cost much, but they're not free.

4. "Most of the costumes" = 2 costumes on 10. Link and Megaman, that's all. The others are not playable. The rest works in my favor: Costumes were made to advertise Splatoon just a little bit but in time. What's the point of making the full character for Smash if, when they're going to be ready, the vast majority of people interested in the game will already have bought it?
On the contrary, they'll need to advertise Splatoon 2, and Smash 5 is going to be the perfect mean to to it. It's even more necessary because, as far as I know, a sequel is almost always more difficult to sell, because it's not an innovation anymore.

5. Do they make 2 Mario Kart games for each console? No. When they make more than one main Mario game for a console, they're already criticized (and it's justified). Making Splatoon 2 too soon is the best way of milking this new franchise too much. We won't see a new Splatoon for the Wii U, they'll wait for the Wii U's successor, just like for Smash 5.

And no, it doesn't work with other characters, or not nearly as well: Metroid is an already well established franchise, and anyway Ridley won't happen. It's hard to tell this but Isaac + Golden Sun won't generate as much hype, it's too niche for that. DK works better, but it's not a new IP. You can't do this with any popular character. Smash 5 will need characters from new franchises, and when I say new, I mean from 2012 at the very, very least. It's not every day Nintendo creates a new big IP. There won't be a lot of them in the years to come, so they need to save them for when it will matter. Smash 4 DLC doesn't need such important characters.
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Dark Souls 3 seems to be a thing, and a new Tales Of (Berseria) was just announced. Since Motoi Sakuraba does the music for these series, does it mean it's going to be difficult for him to work on GS4's music?

Besides, weren't the two megaman costumes X and Protoman? Aka 2 characters who aren't in Sm4sh? I think the likeliest possibility for splatoon support in Sm4sh is for the amiibo to unlock the costumes, but IDK personally.

So how 'bout that Isaac huh? He's a cool guy with his Venus Adept abilities and Sword.

Yeah let's get the posts back on track. It was fun to talk logistics and probability of character introduction, but we're all getting away from the point...
Isaac is #1

 

[True Blue Warrior]

So how 'bout that Isaac huh? He's a cool guy with his Venus Adept abilities and Sword.

I don't think this is the right thread you're on.

 

[Schnee117]

I don't think this is the right thread you're on.

Ah yes it does say "Discuss Third Parties and fudging Inklings" in the title.
Jolly Co-operation.
Now back to Witcher 3.

 

[JohnnySparkxs]

Ah yes it does say "Discuss Third Parties and fudging Inklings" in the title.
Jolly Co-operation.
Now back to Witcher 3.

Don't forget to say Roy will just be a Marth v3.

 

[Nintendokusou]

Back in the GBA era, Nintendo's marketing here at Portugal was almost inexistent, that nowadays, although it has gained a lot more recognition, when people talk about videogames, they immediatly think of Playstation.

I wouldn't mind Golden Sun 4 to have the Dark Dawn treatment at E3. This year we get the announce a little trailer with some beta gameplay, and by next year E3, we get to see much more of the game and a release date. Not only that, this could be used as a way to put Isaac in Smash Bros.

From what the portuguese PR told me, they were really busy preparing a lot of Splatoon things for the release of the game, but it probably was for the big cities not around here in the South...
But they have gotten better at marketing for sure! (must be because they opened that little office and showfloor in Lisbon a few years back...)
I still remember looking around for certain Gamecube and GBA games and never being able to find them outside of online retailers!
I feel you man, I feel you...

For those speaking about Ryu, I think you are forgetting Project X Zone 2 is coming exclusively to the 3DS... (Remember it features characters from Namco Bandai Games, Capcom, and Sega? That 3rd party lineup seem familiar? And don't forget Ryu is in the game, of course...)
And a new game could be announced at E3, you never know. Don't go making up explanations why he is likely or not, when you aren't sure of what will happen in about a week to begin with, ok!?

Speaking of Golden Sun, wanna bet one of the Virtual Console DS titles announced will be Dark Dawn!?
I mean, if they are hypothetically making a 4th game around now, wouldn't it be wise to release Dark Dawn until the end of the year to prepare people for the new game next year? To boost sales and franchise awareness and all that?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

If DD is on the VC, I'll be glad as the only copy I've ever seen of it got sold

 

[Coaltergeist]

Still waiting on Golden Sun 2 for VC...

 

[POKEMANSPIKA]

Still waiting on Golden Sun 2 for VC...

Still waiting on GS4

 

[Coaltergeist]

If DD is on the VC, I'll be glad as the only copy I've ever seen of it got sold

What region do you live in? I've seen plenty of them at GS in America.

Still waiting on GS4

Keep the dream alive.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

What region do you live in? I've seen plenty of them at GS in America.


Keep the dream alive.

I'm European. I have only seen one copy of Dark Dawn in all my life and I didn't buy it because I have no working handheld and I didn't have a job then

 

[Burruni]

I'm European. I have only seen one copy of Dark Dawn in all my life and I didn't buy it because I have no working handheld and I didn't have a job then

As it did not carry the passcode feature from GS1 & 2....

I mean...

Desume.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I'm European. I have only seen one copy of Dark Dawn in all my life and I didn't buy it because I have no working handheld and I didn't have a job then

In hindsight I shouldn't complain. I actually have GS2 downloaded, haven't played yet because W101 and FE7

 

[Retroend]

honestly, i would rather have the inklings in before any indie characters, or ryu for that matter.

 

[JohnnySparkxs]

From what the portuguese PR told me, they were really busy preparing a lot of Splatoon things for the release of the game, but it probably was for the big cities not around here in the South...
But they have gotten better at marketing for sure! (must be because they opened that little office and showfloor in Lisbon a few years back...)
I still remember looking around for certain Gamecube and GBA games and never being able to find them outside of online retailers!
I feel you man, I feel you...

For those speaking about Ryu, I think you are forgetting Project X Zone 2 is coming exclusively to the 3DS... (Remember it features characters from Namco Bandai Games, Capcom, and Sega? That 3rd party lineup seem familiar? And don't forget Ryu is in the game, of course...)
And a new game could be announced at E3, you never know. Don't go making up explanations why he is likely or not, when you aren't sure of what will happen in about a week to begin with, ok!?

Speaking of Golden Sun, wanna bet one of the Virtual Console DS titles announced will be Dark Dawn!?
I mean, if they are hypothetically making a 4th game around now, wouldn't it be wise to release Dark Dawn until the end of the year to prepare people for the new game next year? To boost sales and franchise awareness and all that?

Speaking on the showroom, next Saturday there will be an invitational Smash Tournament. It is a small office, but it is pretty cool.

I'll take the chance and ask the people that work there if they voted for Isaac (as well as fellow smashers).

 

[Diddy Kong]

I'm European. I have only seen one copy of Dark Dawn in all my life and I didn't buy it because I have no working handheld and I didn't have a job then

Same here basically. The moment Dark Dawn released, my DS broke and I had no money to buy a new one. So the money which was saved for Dark Dawn basically was used to buy weed instead.

I mean, I used to money to raise my Psynergy level so I could learn Growth and Blaze.