Isaac for DLC - One day. Some day. Golden Sunday.

[The Curious Volnutt]

I almost forgot to ask, would you guys prefer young Isaac or adult Isaac to be in Smash? I'd like young Isaac because I like his design more.

 

[Aureola]

It's $7.99 +tax. Not bad. I have it and its cool to play it on both the tv and gamepad.

I thought it was more. Thanks!

I almost forgot to ask, would you guys prefer young Isaac or adult Isaac to be in Smash? I'd like young Isaac because I like his design more.

I want young Isaac as the default. However, I really want adult as an alt. I mean, that beard...

 

[LasermasterA]

Having played through every game in the series recently, I feel like Dark Dawn's the better game than the original Golden Sun. Not that I'm saying Golden Sun is a bad game, because I really love it, but Dark Dawn's got more content and depth in gameplay (especially when fighting the optional bosses). This is just my opinion, but I feel like it's also got a better atmosphere, more interesting characters, more to explore, and a soundtrack that's just as good as the original. I'd even consider the story to be better, because in the original, you were just chasing the villains the whole time and ended up not resolving anything. The points of no return in Dark Dawn don't really bother me either, because I generally explore places thoroughly and don't like backtracking.
I think, in terms of what the games did for the series, and their quality in comparison to other games that were out at the time, the original is the better game, but for someone who isn't concerned with such things and just wants to play a good game, I think Dark Dawn's the better choice.
I'd recommend TLA over DD any day though.

As for an AT, if Isaac does make it as a playable character, I'd definitely want to see Alex. He'd attack you with snide remarks about your intelligence.

I would have agreed, cause there are a few notes that Dark Dawn hits right. And the points of no return do make sense from a story perspective. There is also the higher technology advantage that DD has coming on the next console generation after Golden Sun 1 and 2, that too near the end of the lifespan of the DS giving it an advantage over other DS games. As a standalone games, Dark Dawn is really good and for a complete beginner, probably a good choice but for the veterans of the series, not so much. Like all Golden Sun games, it still retains its charm to hook you right in the game plus it is interesting but a combination of bad elements, too much dialogue more than the GBA games (a part of the GS charm but there is a limit), hardly any appearances from past protagonists as well as some absurd retconning makes it inferior to the originals.

To be honest my series favourites would go in the order of release: GS1 > GS:TLA > GS:DD

TLA expanded a lot on the series but i found air rock boring, the other rocks were fine though. Also the initial storyline setup till you meet Piers was very slow compared to the previous game.

Ok, the time of smash related dreams hit me again. I actually had a pretty "realistic" one. I saw a trailer where a Mr. Saturn walks on screen and meets a small venus djinn. They look at each other and have big ? over their heads. And then Ness and Isaac get into the frame. =D

Awesome! Any sort of reveal is awesome as long he is there, but something quite like this will be really good.

I almost forgot to ask, would you guys prefer young Isaac or adult Isaac to be in Smash? I'd like young Isaac because I like his design more.

By general consensus, we would prefer the younger Isaac since its the signature/iconic style of the series although adult Isaac is still cool and can be an alt skin.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

I almost forgot to ask, would you guys prefer young Isaac or adult Isaac to be in Smash? I'd like young Isaac because I like his design more.

Absolutely young Isaac.

Adult Isaac wouldn't be the same, especially when Adult Isaac only really had a role at the start of Dark Dawn. I have very little connection to Adult Isaac. Maybe that will change if Golden Sun 4 has him as a playable character but until then I don't think that incarnation of Isaac deserves anything more than a trophy.

 

[SirRob]

Exploring mysterious ruins and solving puzzles is one of my favorite parts of the series, so I actually consider Air's Rock to be my favorite dungeon! (And when you have Avoid, it really cuts down on the frustration)

I'd much prefer to have young Isaac, although I'm sure the developers would pull off a really good adult Isaac, too.

 

[Skyblade12]

I am hard pressed to find a "favorite" location in these games. The Lighthouses, I guess? But really, pick a spot, I love it, and I'll give you dozens of awesome memories involved with it.

 

[SonicLink125]

I almost forgot to ask, would you guys prefer young Isaac or adult Isaac to be in Smash? I'd like young Isaac because I like his design more.

Has to be Young Isaac. Though, an alt costume of his adult form or his son Matthew would be cool too.

 

[Aureola]

My favorite location would probably be Sol Sanctum from Dark Dawn. I mean, it's just so awesome and something I haven't seen about 50 billion times.

 

[SonicLink125]

My favorite location would probably be Sol Sanctum from Dark Dawn. I mean, it's just so awesome and something I haven't seen about 50 billion times.

Speaking of locations, would it be awesome if Venus Lighthouse or Mars Lighthouse was a stage and both would have the option of having the Boss Dragons on those stages? That would be amazing!

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Speaking of locations, would it be awesome if Venus Lighthouse or Mars Lighthouse was a stage and both would have the option of having the Boss Dragons on those stages? That would be amazing!

That would be interesting.

 

[Skyblade12]

My favorite location would probably be Sol Sanctum from Dark Dawn. I mean, it's just so awesome and something I haven't seen about 50 billion times.

And halfway through the logo in the middle changes from a Moon to a Sun, and the entire place starts to blow up.

Best stage hazard ever.

 

[Aureola]

And halfway through the logo in the middle changes from a Moon to a Sun, and the entire place starts to blow up.

Best stage hazard ever.

That would be awesome

Out of curiosity, do you guys rename Isaac, Felix, or Matthew?
I never do, because I find it weird. I don't rename any character I have to put a name in for.

 

[shinhed-echi]

Well that bodes much better than my dreams. That actually sounds like an awesome trailer idea!

Ness should definitely be in Isaac's trailer somehow, wether they're party partners against someone, or one against the other.
Both are my favorite Nintendo RPGs (slightly swaying to Golden Sun's side a bit more).

I've seen so much Golden Sun love in this page, I really want Isaac to be confirmed playable already. I'd be EXTREMELY satisfied with his inclusion. Especially because his iclusion means the addition of the Golden Sun universe into SSB, and I adore the Golden Sun universe. Alchemy, psyenergy, Djinni, Weyard, the lighthouses, the characters, the emoticon-like expressions. It was probably my 1st GBA purchase alongside Sonic Advance and DBZ:Legacy of Goku.

GBA is till this day my favorite handheld device. And Isaac is its figurehead IMO.

 

[SonicLink125]

That would be awesome

Out of curiosity, do you guys rename Isaac, Felix, or Matthew?
I never do, because I find it weird. I don't rename any character I have to put a name in for.

I'm the same way. I even keep Link's name in all LoZ games. I just find it better.

 

[shinhed-echi]

I don't rename Isaac either.

And I prefer young Isaac all the way. (Not TOO YOUNG Isaac from the beginning of the game. Reguar teen Isaac for me).
Adult Isaac is kind of little fad going on, and while an adult bearded hero would be pretty cool to have around, I still prefer the design that has stuck the most whie I'm in control of the game.

 

[Skyblade12]

I don't rename Isaac either.

And I prefer young Isaac all the way. (Not TOO YOUNG Isaac from the beginning of the game. Reguar teen Isaac for me).
Adult Isaac is kind of little fad going on, and while an adult bearded hero would be pretty cool to have around, I still prefer the design that has stuck the most whie I'm in control of the game.

Great. Now I want too young Isaac to be in the game somewhere. A trophy, something. He was so great with his cute little dagger and awesome facial sprite.

 

[ShinyRegice]

I got my own copy of the first Golden Sun game and it's really pleasant to play! It's kinda odd to play to Golden Sun after Fire Emblem because I'm not used to not seeing anymore the enemy stats I love the soundtrack and the open world map, it's good to see a game that promotes exploration.

I'm not far in the game for now, but I have some ideas for a moveset. I'll not look at potential movesets in the OP because of potential spoilers, but I imagined a moveset stub:

Spoiler

> B-moves: Isaac summons a djinni and gains a slight statistic boost according to the used B-move, such as speed, jump, or knockback power and resistance, just like how a character gains stats when a djinni is set to it in Golden Sun. Each B-move summon has a different animation, even with djinn from the same element so they can be easily recognized. If Isaac has summoned a djinni with a B-move then uses this same B-move again, he will unleash its power and use an attack that depends on the unleashed djinni, but he will lose the slight stat bonus given by the djinni. To prevent Isaac to cumulate several boosts, if he has summoned a djinni then use a B-move that summons another djinni, he loses the stat boost from the first one.
When I'll go farther in the Golden Sun I'll try to imagine the different djinn Isaac could use as his B-moves, including custom moves. The problem is that those slight stat boosts could potentially make him overpowered due to a lot of advantageous matchups thanks to his in-battle stat flexibility, but if those stat bonuses are balancer by a lot of ending lag when Isaac summons a djinni and not too drastic boosts he would be a somewhat easily punishable character and maybe not that OP.

> Isaac would use his sword only for tilts and air moves. His neutral neutral A combo, like Fox, has a finishing move that looks like the critical animation from the first Golden Sun. His dash attack is a Ragnarock attack: Isaac slows down, then his sword becomes giant to look like the Ragnarok psynergy (okay, it doesn't become as tall as in the Golden Sun game).

> Isaac would grab his enemies with the Move psynergy (you know, the one with the giant hand, like the one he uses as an AT in Brawl). I alreay imagine perfectly how his grabs could work! Though a thorn-based grab could work as well.

Spoiler

>> Pummel: Isaac cruches his enemy in the giant hand.
>> Up throw: he throws his enemies upwards in a way similar to how Master Hand throws the player if he grabs it, but with the knockback being more vertical.
>> Back throw: the giant hand turns back as well as Isaac himself, then at the same time the giant hand disappears and Isaac kicks his enemy with an animation similar to how Link kicks Pit in the animated part of Palutena's trailer. Good horizontal knockback.
>> Down throw: the giant hand crushes the enemy on the ground, then it disappears. After hitting the ground, the enemy bounces due to taking relatively weak horizontal knockback.
>> Forward throw: last but not least, a reference to Isaac's role in SSBB due to similar animation. Isaac pushes his enemy in a similay way to how he does as an AT, still without actual knockback or damage, but faster than is Brawl and in a shorter distance, then when the hand disappears the enemy takes damage and vertical knockback, not a lot due to the distance already covered with the push.

> As smash attacks, Isaac could use strong Venus psynergy-based attacks:

Spoiler

>> Up smash: Avalanche. Rocks fall above Isaac, several strikes with the last one inflicting high horizontal knockback.
>> Side smash: Spire. Isaac summons a spire forwards him from the ground, single hit with high diagonal knockback.
>> Down smash: Earthquake. A powerful earthquake happens on the ground arround Isaac. It's a single hit move, with high horizontal knockback if the enemy is hit at the epicenter (which is on the same place as Isaac), or weaker and more diagonal knockback if it's hit not at the epicenter.

I spoiled myself the list of Venus psynergy on the Golden Sun Wiki to imagine Isaac's potential smash attacks I hope that I'll forget the list when I'll go later on my Golden Sun first playthrough.

> Final Smash: Judgment. It's the most powerful Venus-based summon in Golden Sun. Isaac summons a giant winged white knight who walks and jumps on the stage to sweep Isaac's enemies with its sword. Each slash inflicts a lot of damage and very high diagonal knockback. After the white knight summon Isaac can freely more and attack even before its disappearance, making this Final Smash extremely dangerous if Isaac grabs enemies and push them to the danger
I spoiled myself for this one as well lol, but I won't spoil myself about djinn!

I'll probably complete this moveset later with exact damages and more details about B-moves, tilts and air moves.

I'd really love to see Isaac playable in this Smash game. I feel like he's the missing link in Smash Bros. because we don't have an iconic representative for the Game Boy Advance era; Roy has been cut in Brawl and is unlikely to return back, and Lucas only appeared in only one of the latest GBA games from a franchise whose previous instalments were released for retro home consoles. As a series which started on the GBA system Golden Sun faces competition with the Rythm Heaven franchise, but the first Rythm Heaven game was released very late during the GBA lifetime (it's actually one of the last games released for this system) and isn't as iconic as the Golden Sun franchise when it comes to represent the GBA era. As a post-Brawl game, Dark Dawn helps the Golden Sun series when it comes to give recency to the franchise, but it looks like it was globaly disappointing both criticism and commercial-wise, and maybe for this reason Sakurai thought that it wasn't worth it to include a playable Golden Sun rep in Smash 4.

But I think that it's pretty much impossible that Sakurai didn't at least considered a playable Golden Sun representative for Smash 4. Given Isaac's popularity as an assist trophy or playable character request, plus the fact that his franchise got a new game since Brawl, he's a strong candidate to get the Little Mac treatment, we just have to hope that Dark Dawn's failure compared to the GBA games didn't influenced Sakurai's choice to not include a playable Golden Sun rep IMO. I hope that Sakurai will tease Golden Sun-related content soon such as a Djinn trophy, a Smash Run enemy like a vermin, or even a stage from the franchise, besides Isaac himself of course, so his chances to be in the playable roster will skyrocket!

I'm an Isaac supporter and I'd be glad to be added in the supporter list on the OP! I got his game to become actually hyped when he will be revealed so I hope that he will not be deconfirmed for a playable role

Edit: when I tried to imagine a moveset stub for Isaac, I thought that he would have trouble to differentiate himself from the Fire Emblem character Robin, due to the fact that I imagined Isaac's gimmick based on his psynergy with limited usage, which is a key element of Golden Sun - don't use your most powerful psynergy attacks too often because your psynergy is limited and is slow to recharge. But I eventually found moveset potential on him outside of that and I don't feel like it's necessary to implement the limited psynergy concept on Isaac's gameplay. Robin use different weapons, all of them with distinct durability, so if a weapon breaks you can still use another; it's much more complicated with Isaac because if you don't have psynergy anymore you can't use any sort of magic. Plus the concept of limited attack usage is present in pretty much every RPG - Fire Emblem's weapon durability, Golden Sun's psynergy, Pokémon's power points, etc. - we don't need more than one RPG character in Smash to represent this concept, especially when it's a way to contrast from other FE representatives who have their personal and unbreakable weapon, something Robin doesn't have. Really we don't need more than one Smash character who use this concept.

 

[LasermasterA]

GBA is till this day my favorite handheld device. And Isaac is its figurehead IMO.

Definitely! For me the Gameboy Advance means Golden Sun 1 and 2 (with a touch of Fire Emblem and Advance Wars). And Isaac. I was disappointed in the start of TLA where you don't control Isaac at all. Guess where the game becomes even better than it already was for me?

At the reunion!

I also never rename my characters in Golden Sun. Heck my friend changed Isaac's name when he started Golden Sun and I convinced him to restart the game without changing it!

Bearded Isaac being an alt is the way to go with making him playable in the 4th game! My often repeated demand :D

I always thought that the lighthouses would be more epic than Sol Sanctum no matter how representative it might be. Considering the 4 lighthouses are major locations with their zenith being identical whereas Sol Sanctum is only visited once in the start of the game. Plus the Stage Hazard idea was cool!

Haha! Chibi Isaac for Smash Bros 4! After young Isaac though!

 

[Aureola]

I liked Isaac more in The Lost Age where he, you know, knew how to talk. If we're going by who's my favorite while they're silent, it's Matthew for that one line at the very end of the game. Overall, Isaac's awesomer.

Haha! Chibi Isaac for Smash Bros 4! After young Isaac though!

Yes.

 

[Skyblade12]

I liked Isaac more in The Lost Age where he, you know, knew how to talk. If we're going by who's my favorite while they're silent, it's Matthew for that one line at the very end of the game. Overall, Isaac's awesomer.


Yes.

Felix had two lines in The Lost Age.

You can't really say "my favorite silent one was the one who spoke". That's kind of cheating.

 

[Aureola]

Felix had two lines in The Lost Age.

You can't really say "my favorite silent one was the one who spoke". That's kind of cheating.

I was joking. Maybe I should've added a smilie or something...

He had two lines? I don't remember anything other than the epilogue.

 

[LasermasterA]

I liked Isaac more in The Lost Age where he, you know, knew how to talk. If we're going by who's my favorite while they're silent, it's Matthew for that one line at the very end of the game. Overall, Isaac's awesomer.


Yes.

Yea I liked Isaac talking as well. People were annoyed that he had started talking and that too a lot but to me it demonstrates the frustration he has been facing through considering the events of the Lost Age. Heck I would have lost my cool too.

1) They try to find Piers, Felix sneaks in causing Kibombo to spice up their defenses. Isaac is unable to meet Piers.
2) His party probably tried to enter Lemuria but was stopped by Poseidon. The trident parts were with Felix so they couldn't enter.
3) News of Babi's death, Isaac failed in saving the ruler of Tolbi
4) Beaten by Karst and Agatio at Jupiter lighthouse
5) Failed to prevent lighting of Jupiter lighthouse

Always one step behind. Or sometimes ahead but in minor cases where it really doesn't matter.

Plus he also matures as a leader, willing to go against the Wise One to save the world and then willing to kill the final boss despite the secret behind it. Looking back at TLA it kind of makes Isaac's team look incompetent! >.<

By the way which line of Matthew are you referring to? Is it when he sees Arcanus?

Matthew: *%?#

Felix says "Why?" at trial road which is totally out of place. Apparently it was a translation error as it was supposed to be "???"

 

[SonicLink125]

Yea I liked Isaac talking as well. People were annoyed that he had started talking and that too a lot but to me it demonstrates the frustration he has been facing through considering the events of the Lost Age. Heck I would have lost my cool too.

1) They try to find Piers, Felix sneaks in causing Kibombo to spice up their defenses. Isaac is unable to meet Piers.
2) His party probably tried to enter Lemuria but was stopped by Poseidon. The trident parts were with Felix so they couldn't enter.
3) News of Babi's death, Isaac failed in saving the ruler of Tolbi
4) Beaten by Karst and Agatio at Jupiter lighthouse
5) Failed to prevent lighting of Jupiter lighthouse

Always one step behind. Or sometimes ahead but in minor cases where it really doesn't matter.

Plus he also matures as a leader, willing to go against the Wise One to save the world and then willing to kill the final boss despite the secret behind it. Looking back at TLA it kind of makes Isaac's team look incompetent! >.<

By the way which line of Matthew are you referring to? Is it when he sees Arcanus?

Matthew: *%?#

Felix says "Why?" at trial road which is totally out of place. Apparently it was a translation error as it was supposed to be "???"

That line when Felix said, "Why?" shocked me, but at the same time, glad that he wasn't going to be completely silent (even though it was a translation error). Honestly, I wished that they had a few lines here and there when they were necessary making them feel more lively.

 

[LasermasterA]

That line when Felix said, "Why?" shocked me, but at the same time, glad that he wasn't going to be completely silent (even though it was a translation error). Honestly, I wished that they had a few lines here and there when they were necessary making them feel more lively.

Well that line was accidental. Me and my sister were in tears laughing when he said that. It was too unexpected and out of place.

The Lost Age had more instances of "..." though. Felix does it many times throughout the game.

 

[Skyblade12]

There's the "???" line during the opening. The classic "... ..." while leaving Lemuria. And, of course, the "Why?" at Trial Road. Plus the epilogue talk.

He's a regular chatterbox.

Isaac only spoke once in Golden Sun. "!!!" when Felix jumped off the Lighthouse, IIRC.

 

[shinhed-echi]

So questions:

If we get Isaac, and we got to have a clone, who'd you pick?
Also, pick Isaac's specials AND his custom specials :D

 

[LasermasterA]

So questions:

If we get Isaac, and we got to have a clone, who'd you pick?
Also, pick Isaac's specials AND his custom specials :D

An Isaac clone along with Isaac as challenger? Considering Isaac would be Earth based, his only clones would be Felix or Matthew. It would be funny though if we get Kyle :D

 

[Skyblade12]

An Isaac clone along with Isaac as challenger? Considering Isaac would be Earth based, his only clones would be Felix or Matthew. It would be funny though if we get Kyle :D

You could always reskin aspects of it for another element... But, yeah, Felix or Matthew are far more likely.

 

[LasermasterA]

You could always reskin aspects of it for another element... But, yeah, Felix or Matthew are far more likely.

Or Kyle For the trolls!

In Japanese his name is "Dolly", atleast that is what the Golden Sun wiki is telling me.

Joking aside, only Felix or Matthew could be possible as re-skinning elements would take out the GS feel. Not as good as a character built from the ground up.

 

[Aureola]

By the way which line of Matthew are you referring to? Is it when he sees Arcanus?

Matthew: *%?#

Felix says "Why?" at trial road which is totally out of place. Apparently it was a translation error as it was supposed to be "???"

Obviously. I laughed at that line because it was the last thing I expected.
Not as much reaction at Felix, though.

So questions:

If we get Isaac, and we got to have a clone, who'd you pick?
Also, pick Isaac's specials AND his custom specials :D

Matthew. It makes the most sense since he's his identical son. Plus I want to see the confusion people will inevitably have.

 

[SirRob]

I dunno why people would want a second Golden Sun rep to be a clone... if the series gets a second newcomer, it deserves an entirely new character. If we got a clone now, we might run into a Ganondorf situation.

 

[Aureola]

I dunno why people would want a second Golden Sun rep to be a clone... if the series gets a second newcomer, it deserves an entirely new character. If we got a clone now, we might run into a Ganondorf situation.

I don't see us getting two entirely new characters for this series. The only way we'd get another is if he was a clone.

Who knows, though?

 

[LasermasterA]

I don't see us getting two entirely new characters for this series. The only way we'd get another is if he was a clone.

Who knows, though?

Yea that's exactly the point. Right now we are struggling to get one rep i.e. Isaac in the game. A seocnd character is too unlikely. That is why there should be no clones! Only Isaac and his alt costumes for Felix and Matt. Take Jenna or someone else to be the 2nd rep although hugely unlikely. Although Nintendo is trying to up the female character count so why not?

Isaac would be happy to have her revealed alongside him

Although that is a purely hypothetical near impossible scenario. A series having no character so far getting two characters all of a sudden. Having just Isaac in the game would be good enough for me!

 

[SirRob]

I don't see us getting two entirely new characters for this series. The only way we'd get another is if he was a clone.

Who knows, though?

I'm thinking more towards the future. Like if Isaac got in, and there was a clone with him, odds are that second character would stay a clone for subsequent Smash Bros games. But if Isaac alone got in, and he turned out to be popular, the developers might want to make an original second character for Smash 5.

 

[shinhed-echi]

Or it could be a non-clone. Just figured if they wanted to squeeze in a 2nd Golden Sun character, that'd be the way to go.

But sure, if it was original, it'd be ideal.

My 2nd choice for a Golden Sun character will always be Jenna. Then Felix, then Mia. :D
I feel like Jenna played a pretty good role in both games.
At some point, she assumed command of at least one party. And she was playable in both games.
Not saying she's more important than Felix, I think Felix is the 2nd most important character in the series.

 

[Skyblade12]

Or it could be a non-clone. Just figured if they wanted to squeeze in a 2nd Golden Sun character, that'd be the way to go.

But sure, if it was original, it'd be ideal.

My 2nd choice for a Golden Sun character will always be Jenna. Then Felix, then Mia. :D
I feel like Jenna played a pretty good role in both games.
At some point, she assumed command of at least one party. And she was playable in both games.
Not saying she's more important than Felix, I think Felix is the 2nd most important character in the series.

Jenna also has a really easily translated moveset with her unique Psynergies: Beam and Fume.

 

[Retroend]

To make things clear, Dark Dawn is one of my favourite games on the Nintendo DS and I loved playing it. After a 20 hour playthrough I even got stuck because of a game breaking bug (seriously?! the original 2 didn't have any as far as I know), just 2 hours before the final boss fight and I restarted the whole game and played it all over again for 30 hours. I was hooked onto it. I really was happy that the gameplay mechanics had mostly all carried through but disappointed that the original party hardly makes an appearance in the game.

It is just that there were so many things that were missing and could be improved. The game seemed like a step down in other ways. The storyline did not seem as impressive and did not make sense many times (one word - retconning although it did pick up some slack later on) as the original 2 games and the dialogues were even longer than the original games. Plus the points of no return were absolutely horrifying about which I did not even know from the start causing me to miss a summon tablet as well as a djinn (collected em all the 2nd time after my save got ruined). P

Alex's role was completely shafted where they introduce him but he does nothing special and his story is left completely hanging. Alex was supposed to be there instead of Piers in the 2nd game so Camelot had something planned for him revealed at the end of the 2nd game but not expanded in the 3rd game.


I will go crazy! I will probably scream (probably my sister as well). I will whack all those who "meh" (kidding). I will then download the reveal trailer, watch it hundreds of time, show it to my friends who don't even know Golden Sun and get them interested. Plus I will change my avatar, signature, profile pictures everything to show this! That will be one heck of a day!

Plus I will dance!

lol, your gif goes very well with this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEIYmaeqSN4

 

[Skyblade12]

lol, your gif goes very well with this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEIYmaeqSN4

lol

It does. The beat lines up quite nicely.

Vader rocking it out to some awesome Golden Sun music. I love it.

 

[Retroend]

Speaking of locations, would it be awesome if Venus Lighthouse or Mars Lighthouse was a stage and both would have the option of having the Boss Dragons on those stages? That would be amazing!

well besides the lighthouses, what about mt. aleph? it could get the castle siege treatment.

1. you start at the top of the mountain. its flat and much more wider than it was when alex reached the peak at the end of TLA.

2. then two things can happen. either the light of the golden sun shines on the stage and changes the stage or the wise one comes in the background and teleports everyone to the next section. which would be where Isaac had to solve the puzzle of unlocking the room to the elemental chamber where the elemental stars were hidden with the statues. there would be a flat surface with water on each side, kinda like tortimer island. and the statues are in the background.

3. then the stage changes again into the elemental chamber where the stars are. there are 3 flat surfaces and below them is water. but 2 things can happen here. one, whenever you return to this part of the stage, the stage will either have water at the bottom, or lava at the bottom, kinda like how mt aleph erupted as Isaac and co escaped from the mountain in the beginning. since swimming seems to be out of smash 4, you will lose a stock if you don't recover, or the lava will damage you if the room is filled with lava.

4. and then the cycle repeats itself again.

 

[LasermasterA]

lol

It does. The beat lines up quite nicely.

Vader rocking it out to some awesome Golden Sun music. I love it.

And that is how I am going to dance when Isaac comes out as a challenger.

well besides the lighthouses, what about mt. aleph? it could get the castle siege treatment.

1. you start at the top of the mountain. its flat and much more wider than it was when alex reached the peak at the end of TLA.

2. then two things can happen. either the light of the golden sun shines on the stage and changes the stage or the wise one comes in the background and teleports everyone to the next section. which would be where Isaac had to solve the puzzle of unlocking the room to the elemental chamber where the elemental stars were hidden with the statues. there would be a flat surface with water on each side, kinda like tortimer island. and the statues are in the background.

3. then the stage changes again into the elemental chamber where the stars are. there are 3 flat surfaces and below them is water. but 2 things can happen here. one, whenever you return to this part of the stage, the stage will either have water at the bottom, or lava at the bottom, kinda like how mt aleph erupted as Isaac and co escaped from the mountain in the beginning. since swimming seems to be out of smash 4, you will lose a stock if you don't recover, or the lava will damage you if the room is filled with lava.

4. and then the cycle repeats itself again.

Cool idea, Golden Sun has so many various backgrounds. Like if we have Venus lighthouse, it is unlit. Then it is lit. Then the earth splits.

Mt. Aleph although is a place which you technically don't visit so its chances of inclusion seems less likely..