Is anyone else obsessed with Tipper jabs/f-tilts?!

[SpaceFalcon]

It's so sexy, especially out of a wavedash.

 

[KirbyKaze]

i love f-tilt.

with every character.

 

[RaynEX]

except jiggs/pichu. Failure range.

Best ftilt is Yoshi's. honestly.

 

[SpaceFalcon]

Pichu doesn't have it to bad, most the time he can sneak it under the shield and follow with a tech chase at mid %. But even then...

Sometimes I like to F-tilt knee with falcon.

 

[Skylord]

Marth's F-tilt is a pseudo F-smash. It's pretty neat.

 

[KirbyKaze]

except jiggs/pichu. Failure range.

Best ftilt is Yoshi's. honestly.

i f-tilt with pichu and puff watubsayin

sheik

 

[Daedatheus]

It's the utilt that interests me most

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Jabs yes, ftilts, not so much.

I mean sure, it's useful, but generally speaking, there's something better.

Utilt and dtilt both start up faster and have less lag, fsmash is only about three frames slower in coming out and winds down in just thirteen frames more.

Grabs and reverse Dolphin Slashes are worth mentioning too.

 

[MikeHaggarTHAKJB]

Best ftilt is Yoshi's. honestly.

ummm
sheik

 

[Milos]

***** haha shiek's f tilt owns.

Although IC's is good too because you can wobble with it.

 

[jlorde34@yahoo.com]

lol well yea if u include wobble ic's would be the best, otherwise shiek's **** all.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Speaking of tippers, SmashWiki is falling apart.

From http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Marth_(SSBM)

Legendary Attack

Many people are unaware of this incredibly rare and difficult attack. It is a variation of Marth's smash attack and can only be done with superior timing. If an opponent is hit with the very tip of Marth's sword (within one pixel) it creates a one-hit-KO. This attack is nearly impossible to pull off due to its need for superior timing and mastery of all other attacks. If one is able to pull off this attack then one is certainly worthy of the title of master player.

 

[Strong Badam]

*facepalm*

 

[KirbyKaze]

sounds pretty accurate to me

 

[DTKPch]

except jiggs/pichu. Failure range.

Best ftilt is Yoshi's. honestly.

Mewtwo.

That is all.

 

[Proverbs]

Jabs yes, ftilts, not so much.

I mean sure, it's useful, but generally speaking, there's something better.

Utilt and dtilt both start up faster and have less lag, fsmash is only about three frames slower in coming out and winds down in just thirteen frames more.

Grabs and reverse Dolphin Slashes are worth mentioning too.

What? I love tipped f-tilts. Sure they come out slow, but they're definitely useful.

U-tilt and d-tilt do come out faster, but they don't have nearly the same range as the f-tilt nor would be used in the same situation that an f-tilt would be used in. I mostly use it as a punishing attack if my opponent is making a stupid approach or if they're not spacing themselves well and only keep themselves out of range of the f-smash.

Which brings me to why I use the f-tilt instead of the f-smash even when my opponent would be exposed. The thing is, if I'm not mistaken, the f-tilt does go farther than the f-smash. And isn't as easily punishable if you misjudge the distance. So with the extra length you're less likely to whiff an attack and you don't get owned if you miss. Sounds pretty good to me. And it's also useful to just create distance, even if it doesn't hit, it can just be a friendly reminder to your opponent that Marth has a ridiculously long reach and make your opponent go on the defensive. This allows for you to capitalize on this and force them into corners that only lead to gimp kills, et cetera.

And grabs/reverse Dolphin Slashes are a terrible alternative to an f-tilt. Grabs are used at completely different times (f-tilt has higher priority, less of a risk if someone's approaching with an attack), and the reverse Dolphin Slash leaves you incredibly exposed. That's something you don't use unless you're pretty darn sure it'll hit (it's something I either combo into, or know my opponent won't see coming). And both of them have less range than the f-tilt.

Sorry if I just went on a mini-rant, but I think the f-tilt has a lot going for it when the time is right. I also believe it can hit people on platforms on some stages (For some reason it wasn't working against Sheik but I'm pretty sure it works sometimes on Battlefield. Maybe I'm just thinking of the moving platforms on FoD). Anyway, that's my two cents.

And I never really used tipped jabs. I rarely jab at all. <.<;;

 

[Zodiac]

Marth's F-tilt is a pseudo F-smash. It's pretty neat.

Yup, most people underestimate its knockback power thats why its great sneak it in.

 

[bahamutz69]

Mewtwo.

That is all.

mangos ftilt
nuffsed

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Eh. The ftilt has its uses, I suppose, but I'm not a huge fan.

 

[Proverbs]

What do you guys use jabs for except gimps? I never really saw a purpose to them as they didn't really give any knockback.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Interrupting shieldgrab attempts, spacing... canceling projectiles...

 

[Proverbs]

Ah, that helps. Thanks.

 

[2-Tone]

Jabs are also useful to set up for a re-grab as most of the time space animals and falcon will be rattled by it and go into shield. Afterwards just JC grab.

 

[Cosmo!]

every single one of marth's moves are useful

 

[Havokbringer]

F-Tilt i funniest **** to spam against a jiggly.

 

[Weimdog]

every single one of marth's moves are useful

Since apparently now Upsmash is part of the marth metagame.

Who will rescue downsmash?

 

[2-Tone]

Since apparently now Upsmash is part of the marth metagame.

Who will rescue downsmash?

I occasionally see M2k use dsmash to punish a roll back onto the stage when edge-guarding but I typically don't use it. Btw, how is usmash a part of marth's meta-game now? Did I miss something? If you can upsmash you can most certainly uair or utilt. Upsmash has limited options as far as combo-ability, too.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

I think Cactuar usmashes when people are to the side of him, and banks on them missing the tech to connect with the fsmash.

Dunno, I never found too much use for those two smashes.

 

[Cosmo!]

dsmash is AMAZING. tipper star KO and non tipper side KO. way toooo good. and a lot faster than fsmash

 

[Cactuar]

Haha. I wouldn't recommend imitating me. I do stupid stuff that shouldn't work.

I don't really do usmash when people are next to me... I go for tipper usmash for the kill.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Hey Cactuar, do you know if the weak hitbox of the usmash has set knockback, or is it just a weak hit?

 

[2-Tone]

dsmash is AMAZING. tipper star KO and non tipper side KO. way toooo good. and a lot faster than fsmash

Ummm, I'm gonna go ahead and pretend I didn't just hear you recommend dsmash over fsmash for ANY reason.

1. Dsmash has limited range. Fsmash has great range.

2. There aren't as many things that combo into dsmash. Fsmash you can combo out of just about anything.

3. Dsmash's lag is way too punishable if you miss. Fsmash, while still punishable, is nowhere near as risky.

4. Dsmash can't hit ten-feet above your head. Fsmash.....need I say more?

 

[ShadowX718]

Mewtwo? Weird.
Shiek's is great tho.

 

[Cosmo!]

Ummm, I'm gonna go ahead and pretend I didn't just hear you recommend dsmash over fsmash for ANY reason.

1. Dsmash has limited range. Fsmash has great range.

2. There aren't as many things that combo into dsmash. Fsmash you can combo out of just about anything.

3. Dsmash's lag is way too punishable if you miss. Fsmash, while still punishable, is nowhere near as risky.

4. Dsmash can't hit ten-feet above your head. Fsmash.....need I say more?

ur a knob. money match\

 

[2-Tone]

ur a knob. money match\

I would love to take your money sometime. Come on down to KY and bring $100 bucks.

Btw, don't spam the boards with ******** posts like these. How often do you challenge people to MMs after you check their location to make sure they're nowhere near you? Go cry, you've lost this battle.

 

[Cosmo!]

I would love to take your money sometime. Come on down to KY and bring $100 bucks.

Btw, don't spam the boards with ******** posts like these. How often do you challenge people to MMs after you check their location to make sure they're nowhere near you? Go cry, you've lost this battle.

lol u are hilarious. i would do it if the mm was for 500 dollars, see i need money for my plane ticket.

btw

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1. Cosmo
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1. Cosmo
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hmm whats this?

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d@mn son looks like u need to step up ur game. I recommend some dsmash.

 

[Bil]

D-smash is 222good.

 

[Zjiin]

d@mn son looks like u need to step up ur game. I recommend some dsmash.

OH DaYUhM! Get owned.

 

[Cactuar]

Haha. That was entertaining.

 

[Scar]

lol Yeah it was.