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Kinda like how it's sorta proof of nothing that specific? The only thing you've successfully established here is how out of touch you are with the audience you're being critical of.
I don't believe you. You're yanking my chain.
The biggest challenge they have is pleasing series veterans. How much additional enjoyment is there realistically to be had if the resulting game is little more than a twist on the same formula with similar issues? Smash is on #4 now, the bar is naturally higher. Time hasn't exactly been Brawl's best friend either (online, single player, tripping, etc).
It's unresponsive... The animations are far better in Brawl. Playing Melee again, attacks won't register as fluidly as it would in Brawl. Hence, it earned the title of "too fast for it's own good". Strangely, the original Smash Bros. doesn't suffer from this problem. Actually, going from Melee to the original Smash Bros gives me the same problem in terms of responsiveness from what I remember. This is in from my experience. But yes, I find Brawl more responsive and precise (and smoother) than Melee. Must be the Havok Engine Brawl used.
I'd honestly have to agree to a point. Since I've been playing all three games to a point pretty whimsically for the last week, when I played Brawl, if there was anything I appreciated about the way gameplay was over Melee and 64, it was the fluidity. Melee definitely doesn't feel as fluid in comparison. 64 is uncomfortable to play for different reasons more based around the things that were only added to basic gameplay in melee. If there was anything that could disappoint me about this game, it would be if it stopped being fluid, whether it went in the "melee direction" or not.
Thankfully, we have google translate...
First thing that comes to mind is the fact that if you dare touch the C-stick in single player mode, the only thing that happens is the camera will mad dog rush your character's groin. I also wish it hadn't taken out unique entrances, and removed boarding of the platforms. Melee also had more clones than any other smash game, the fewest past stages, and travesties such as Icicle Mountain. I also wish they hadn't done away with Smash 64's way of dealing with post-singleplayer congratulation images, but I suppose when you need three per character for over twice as many characters you need to cut some corners. And that's fine. Air dodging could get you killed. Some characters were unpleasant in this game, such as Bowser and Mewtwo.
I just thought you were an idiot :/
Sorry gotta pick on you again. The movement in the prominent 3D fighters SC, Tekken, and VF feel sluggish to less skilled players, but as you master the movement systems, they all start to feel extremely fluid. It's like Melee, the movement has an execution barrier, even in SC. The whole "using moves to move you" is a rookie mistake and means you never move before attacking, making you really easy to out-space and predict.
I'd take those over tilting. People praise Smash's supposed input simplicity but its at the cost of precision. Don't even get me started with the input overlap of up-attacks and jumping...
You might have trouble understanding this, but Sakurai was wrong. No casual found it difficult, and those who seeked mastery were happy to rise to the challenge.
They didn't have to. Players enjoyed the game without needed to learn advanced techniques. They don't care about competing, so why would they care that there are people out there doing difficult things in the game and having an advantage?
On the contrary! There should be a 100 frame buffer window. Everyone hates it when people are good at video games, and it ruins online play (and there's absolutely no method by which you can separate the serious and the casual players via online matchmaking), so Smash should be even less precise.
This argument is already dead... Melee was the top selling Gamecube game and sold more per console sale than Brawl. It's not even relevant anyway, this thread is about what we want the new smash game to be like in relation to earlier games. Also
I don't necessarily have a problem with tilts as an input, but completely agree that there are problems with how it meshes with movement in all of the Smash tittles. I'm not sure the Brawl exclusive player will understand this, but with practice the wavedash becomes an easier tool to use approaching tilts with because it creates consistent movement separated from the move input.
The only two movements I've found difficult to do are Tekken's Korean Backdash and Wavedash(but I play no one that has this). And I completely agree that precision is very difficult to work with in Smash Bros. thanks to the analog controls. When I got to play Brawl for the first time in a long time, it was almost impossible to distinguish between tilts and Smashes because of how it goes against every other fighting game's inputs. I'd like to see digital inputs for the next game (mostly so I can use an arcade stick for Smash) for this. Of course, the question comes into play about up-attacks and the inputs for Smashes unless we want to go to one or two more buttons which I know not everyone is keen on.
You can't get it through your thick skull.the point was that the melee/GC ratio would be near impossible to repeat because 66 1/3 million would have to have bought brawl.
Haven't heard that. Dedede was planned, but Meta Knight wasn't.
Honestly I only donated to Melee over Brawl and didn't bother with Brawl because Melee already had the strong head start. I would have donate for Brawl instead but the melee community was willing to put more money up, a lot more money.
Even with that in mind, I don't think he would have hit high tier at this point in the game.
imagine if there was no control limitation in smash bros. and you could mentally make your character do anything you wanted, within the limitations/physics of the game itself.
