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Into The New World :: Generation V Competitive Metagame Discussion

kirbyraeg

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You know what it doesn't resist? Blaziken. If you bring blaziken in on the first bulk up it can't win. at all. it's impossible.
 

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You know what it doesn't resist? Blaziken. If you bring blaziken in on the first bulk up it can't win. at all. it's impossible.
That's actually quite legit. Protect / Swords Dance really runs circles around Zuruzukin with STAB Hi Jump Kick and all. Does +2 Atk. Hi Jump Kick OHKO +2 Def. Zuruzukin (252 HP / 4 Def.)?

Just don't miss. :urg:

Edit - Whoops. Hydra.
 

kirbyraeg

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1: Zuru doesn't learn mach punch.
2: Blaziken can 1hko with LO hjk if zuru is only at +1.

How you set up on it is up to you.
 

Terywj [태리]

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So can Blaziken get a Claw Sharpen in against Zuru? Or would he not survive a +1 Drain punch and Mach Punch?
Swords Dance seems like a more legit option since Hi Jump Kick's accuracy is already 90.

Zuruzukin doesn't get Mach Punch. I'm just waiting for Pokemon Grey to release the Platinum / Advance move tutors so Zuruzukin gets Sucker Punch.

Zuruzukin @ Leftovers
Shed Skin / Impish
252 HP / 40 Def. / 216 Sp. Def.
~ Bulk Up
~ Rest
~ Sucker Punch
~ Drain Punch

You can't defeat it with status or attacks now. This is legitimately a perfect set.
 

kirbyraeg

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It still loses to Blaziken.

Edit: Oh wait, it's Impish, so it has a small chance of surviving at +1. But now it takes a lot more from special attackers. Boo hoo.
 

Moozle

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I always just use Roobushin to get rid of Zuruzukin (although idk how a highjumpkick version of Z would do against Roo). +1 drain punch will do very little and even at +1 def zuruzukin will get ravaged by drain punch.
 

Terywj [태리]

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Who cares about either of those things. You have a pokemon thats immune to Taunt with access to both Light Screen and Reflect. At that point you've pretty much won.
Nobody likes Espeon, then? I have no idea. If Espeon is UU then I'll probably use it on one of my staple UU teams or something.

Alongside Zuruzukin, of course.
 

Terywj [태리]

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There's literally nothing in any tier that doesnt get ***** by double screen. If espeon is allowed to fall to UU gen 5 is officially the dumbest thing since gen 3(where ludicolo is allowed to be OU)
I thought Gen. V was already the dumbest thing when people on the Pokemon Online server don't use ****ing Latios and that's UU.
 

Wave⁂

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Lead Espeon isn't really used much because people won't use Stealth Rock if you have an Espeon out. At that point, you're basically just a Dual Screener, and Azelf / Uxie / Gardevoir might be better.
 

Moozle

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Red Card Ditto is just silly :( I wasn't expecting it and lost when they switched in Ditto on my Roobushin.
 

Wave⁂

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Yeah, but I don't think it's nearly as useful as the Red Card. Unless...

Ninetales
Trick Room Exeguttor @ Escape Button
Solar Power Sunflora

Eh, still kind of mediocre.
 

UltiMario

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People stopped using it after they realized it still sucked.

Yeah, but I don't think it's nearly as useful as the Red Card. Unless...

Ninetales
Trick Room Exeguttor @ Escape Button
Solar Power Sunflora

Eh, still kind of mediocre.
Except Escape button activates on attack, so you'd never get a TR off.
 

The Real Gamer

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Start of turn 22
Gliscor used Fling!
Gliscor flung its Toxic Orb!
The foe's Mamanbou lost 3% of its health!
The foe's Mamanbou was poisoned!

The foe's Mamanbou used Waterfall!
It's super effective!
Gliscor lost 50 HP! (17% of its health)

Wow what a sorry *** Pokemon... LOL
 
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