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Inception mafia: Town and Indy Joint Win!

Delvro

Delvro

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And yes, I realize that this redirector is different than the role I thought redirector was a while ago.

I still think it could work.
 
#HBC | Nabe

#HBC | Nabe

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Call it a deflector, Delv, since it provides that very specific niche ability.

Sworddancer. said:
I'll rather have someone who doesn't spoon feed everyone every single bit of information that they probably already know live longer then the person who does. =/
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I always do mid-game analysis. See FFVI for an example. It brings the logic to the table and makes sure everyone is on the same page with what's happened, which is crucial in the endgame when numbers are tight. In my logic I've expressed points that others haven't so far in the game, so I'm not going to take that statement that I'm rehashing things people know. Don't skim.


Town: if Delv flips scum, then there is very likely a fourth and final mafo because of his current complacency. Check out Ran in that case, Delv's posts draw a clear line in that direction. If there are four mafia, there's no indy; three mafia and an indy is plausible, in which case it's a non-killing indy and we have the leisure of time.
 
-Vocal-

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Delvro said:
Omg Nabe acts sooo townie god

can we pleeeeeeeeease kill Vocal instead?

Unvote Vote: Vocal
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I agree that Nabe acts town. Because of that, I finally have an inclination for which of the two of you I'd like to lynch.

FoS: Delvro

To clarify, this is not an OMGUS vote. His posts lately appear to me to be town actively attempting to think through all possibilities. I feel this would be hard to do from a mafia standpoint with such a concern for tripping up.

Has to be one of you. Might as well be you.

I didn't vote as he's at L-1 and I'm not sure if everyone's ready to end the day yet. If there aren't any objections by 10 tonight I'll hammer.
 
#HBC | J

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Why do you feel the need to clarify it is not an OMGUS vote and your FoS'ing of him is because he is acting town...? But he must be one of the mafia members...

I don't like that post, at all.
 
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Ignoring the doc protect and any other circumstances, I would definitely rather have Vocal lynched than Delvo or Nabe. Also, btw guys, I know this is a heavy dose of WIFOM but if there is an indy in this game then Vocal could still be mafia.

Btw I thought about that whole indy thing some more and I'm taking it back. I forgot about somethings for the idea to have been plausible.
 
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Also, btw guys, I know this is a heavy dose of WIFOM but if there is an indy in this game then Vocal could still be mafia.
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This part was suppose to be omitted, but I forgot to delete it before posting. What I was basically going to say though was that if there is an indy in this game then there is a good chance that they would be bp. Thus it would allow for there to be a doc protect on Vocal and yet still have him be mafia.

Again though, I didn't think this theory out all the way so I take it back, or at least doubt it.
 
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J said:
Why do you feel the need to clarify it is not an OMGUS vote and your FoS'ing of him is because he is acting town...? But he must be one of the mafia members...

I don't like that post, at all.
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Misplaced subject; the section talking about townie posts are referring to Nabe, not Delvro. Delvro has not much but a flatline on my radar, as of the moment. I felt the need to clarify it wasn't an OMGUS because I was stating my intention to vote him right after he voted me.
 
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J said:
Unvote

No way are you ending the day at the designated time you set.
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Fine with me. The reason I didn't just hammer is because I don't want to end the day if there are people who feel that it shouldn't yet. In that case

Vote: Delvro

Delvro is now at L-1. Don't vote him unless you intend to hammer.
 
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J said:
Doesn't this look familar because it's advice dogging.

The hammer lays with Ran/Rockin/Myself it seems.
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Well I wasn't intending to advice dog, just wanted to make a friendly PSA. Mostly didn't want anyone to accidentally or "accidentally" hammer him
 
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Nabe said:
Vocal, who's scum if it's not me or Delv?
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I've said multiple times before - if it's not you or Delv, then I'm quite at a loss as to who it could be. I feel like a broken record.

Can't be Ran because what else would explain the no kills
Can't be J because executioner/townie play all game
Can't be Swords because we already have a flip on him
Can't be Rockin because if there isn't a townie watcher then why would there be a mafia watcher tricker

So yea...I just don't see how it couldn't be either of you. I'd eat my hat if it wasn't. The most plausible out of them would be Ranmaru, but that would require extremely illogical behavior on the part of mafia. Just don't think it can be anyone but you two.
 
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You did not really answer the question and just shrugged it off till the end where you said, "Meh I'll pick Ran even though I do not think whatsoever he could be scum."
 
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We're agreed that Delv is going and that I follow if he's not scum, right?
Kind of eager to share a pet theory of mine; if there's an indy, it could be Swords.

V from V for Vendetta is played by Hugo Weaving, the actor who played Agent Smith in the Matrix. Swords himself said the indy could be BP; Agent Smith dodges bullets. Agent Smith can be a silencer; in the first Matrix movie, he fused Neo's mouth shut. Agent Smith came back from the dead. Agent Smith posed as other people, which could explain Sword's original flip being town.

Just a niche case to consider. Very much a crack theory, but do think about it when we're free of the mafia. Unless they flip a silencer, lol.
 
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J said:
You did not really answer the question and just shrugged it off till the end where you said, "Meh I'll pick Ran even though I do not think whatsoever he could be scum."
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You're spot on. If someone asks you "who do you hate" and then names your two best friends, how do you go about answering that question? If someone asks you "who is mafia" and the only options are people you are certain are town, how do you go about answering that question? If by some freak of nature scum wasn't between the two of them then I would move on to Ranmaru next.

But wait, just remembered again - don't we have Rockin confirming Ranmaru protecting him? So yea...back to being even more lost if it's not one of the two of them. It simply must be.
 
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J said:


?

You do realize this is just your opinion on a certain matter. Why should we not keep two people who have claimed protecting roles to not watch each other to presumably keep them safe? Why did neither you NOR Ranmaru comment on your abilities being lacking? Why did not one else in the entire town comment or show they did not want it? The only instance in which someone tried to was Kuzi but then he admitted that he was wrong and that you two should be watching each other. Also we had no other claimed PR's so the mafia could shoot freely at Vanilla Townies, yes it's bad to lose town members but it is worse to loose PRs over VTs. Or are you saying we should have risked it and possible ended up with a PR NK and thus putting us in a dangerous position the rest of the game?
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Yes, I know it's an opinion, but it's also something that I just disliked, ya know? Also, I didn't comment cause I didn't want to give Mafia any answers to what I may be doing (such as try and deviate from the plan), and just kept quiet to it as a whole.



J said:

Lead? I just voted KY in my first post and I didn't say anything, everyone else agreed to KY leaving and even you yourself said that you wanted him gone. Are you saying that I caused the inevitable cascade of votes with this post?

So you are saying this post is extremely anti-town and was the cause of the day ending so early? You really need to go re-read that. Otherwise this point is just not well thought out.
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Yes, I wanted him gone. But the main issue I had was that the day ended so quickly without anyone discussing the lynch, or finding out some new sort of night action happen to them. If we was to lynch him later on in that day, I would've gladly accepted it. But my main beef is the day ending so fast and no one unvoted.


It seems that it'll either be Devlro or Nabe. Out of the two, I'm gonna go with Delvro here

Unvote Vote: Delvro
 
#HBC | J

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I wanted to hear from Vocal more because what he is saying at the current time I am not liking whatsoever and I'm thinking over moving it to:

Vocal>Ran

We had three more days but there is nothing we can do now.
 
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J said:
What ?
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Earlier I said that it was faintly possible that Ranmaru was scum. In this scenario, he would be fake claiming doc and mafia would have no killed or something to that effect. However, we have Rockin confirming Ran's claim, so that's erased as a possibility, unless Ranmaru were also to be a tricker of watchers which would just be blatantly overpowered
 
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