Your entire basis for lynching them is on META. What else have you got? You have only wanted to lynch them because of their interactions with X1 and not because of their own scummy behaviour. If you can give me something more definitive then WIFOM and Meta then maybe I will listen to you more.
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Inception mafia: Town and Indy Joint Win!
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th3kuzinator
Smash Master
Tando said:
No.
No.
Null.
you're town anyway though, so why does it matter?
Tandora
Smash Rookie
Kuz, your whole defense depends on X1 meta you claim is real. In order to verify if you're telling the truth, I would need to go read an entire thread to see if you're telling the truth. Even if you're telling the about previous meta, it doesn't prove it's true for this game.
Are you saying X1 is stupid enough to use the exact same meta the exact same way? Aren't you constantly distancing yourself from X1 with these examples?
And on an off note, J needs to go back to pink. >_<
Thank you for voting kuzi, if it does appear wrong then I'll see about a KY lynch.
No.
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
Actually its not, show me which parts. Its easy to give a blanket statement like that, lets see you back it up.
Does no one find it weird on how we were all okay with what I was doing before, and now J says something and I am already at L-2?
Look at the reasons for people coming onto my wagon! Omfg this is ridiculous.
Does no one find it weird on how we were all okay with what I was doing before, and now J says something and I am already at L-2?
Look at the reasons for people coming onto my wagon! Omfg this is ridiculous.
Can you point out exactly how it's ridiculous? Like destroy their reasonings, i.e. Tery's Rockin's and KY's. Is my reason ridiculous?
And I might do as you ask but it's completely up in the air if I will or not. Maybe if you get at L-1 and claim.
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
J you made a case, an incorrect one, but I have no problem with it.
J: Tery vote someone.
Tery: Okay, vote kuz. It looks like you strongly believe Kuz is scum, so i will now too.
J: Thank you
Kirby: Your first sentence in your wall was about flavor? Wow you so scum despite me clearing you 10 minutes ago. I am not even using J's reasoning, but im getting on there anyway
J: Thank you
Rockin: Ill read Kuz's post against me now (not like I should have read it before), but ill buddy up to townJ and vote kuz because he seems to want him gone. obv buddying is obv
J: Thank you
Tanny: I don't know if I am right or wrong about the Jester comment, but who cares? All your evidence is circumstantial and, despite your case involving very little x1 meta, ill use it as my excuse to hammer you when you are at L-1.
J: Maybe I will actually try to defeat your case with logic, but only if you are at L-1 and claim. But for now, I feel attacking it incorrectly will suffice.
Sorry for being freaking blunt, but thats what just transpired.
J: Tery vote someone.
Tery: Okay, vote kuz. It looks like you strongly believe Kuz is scum, so i will now too.
J: Thank you
Kirby: Your first sentence in your wall was about flavor? Wow you so scum despite me clearing you 10 minutes ago. I am not even using J's reasoning, but im getting on there anyway
J: Thank you
Rockin: Ill read Kuz's post against me now (not like I should have read it before), but ill buddy up to townJ and vote kuz because he seems to want him gone. obv buddying is obv
J: Thank you
Tanny: I don't know if I am right or wrong about the Jester comment, but who cares? All your evidence is circumstantial and, despite your case involving very little x1 meta, ill use it as my excuse to hammer you when you are at L-1.
J: Maybe I will actually try to defeat your case with logic, but only if you are at L-1 and claim. But for now, I feel attacking it incorrectly will suffice.
Sorry for being freaking blunt, but thats what just transpired.
What would a correct case be on you?
Why do you not have a problem with it?
Is there another way to attack if you are saying this way is incorrectly?
You also missed this question, th3kuzi.
Teryble Doom~
Smash Rookie
That was for th3kuzi to answer because I wanted to see his response since he had just kept on saying, "You are town J. J you are so town! J you are town so why does it matter?"
Teryble Doom~
Smash Rookie
Oh. Sorry.
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
if you had read D2, J, I cleared you two times with reasoning
Who would use their one shot execute on a scum buddy? No one. This answer is overly obvious to anyone who even glanced at the game.
Who would use their one shot execute on a scum buddy? No one. This answer is overly obvious to anyone who even glanced at the game.
Now you missed these as well th3kuzi.
Yea because I obviously have not read D2 at all. Hence why I am just floating along doing nothing with my cleared status.
Delvro
Smash Ace
Whoops, I wrote that badly... I meant to make that comment about x1 and not you. However it doesn't matter, since I realize x1 is dead.
Unfortunately, the temptation to read the last few pages was too much. I'm currently compiling a scum ratio for everyone and it's going to blow your minds away.
As for Rockin/Tandora/Kirbyoshi, I don't really know what made Rockin so scummy early game. I think people pushed on him too much for not posting and everyone got a Rockinscum mentality that's hard to shake off. Dunno though, I haven't seen a lot of his posts.
Tandora, however, is scummy. She plays like Advice Dog more than like Opinion Dog and I find that scum love to do this.
Kirbyoshi is a null for me, but I haven't seen his entire claim yet, although I know it's suicidal townie or something. I have no idea what that is. More definite opinions will come once I read the entire claim.
Teryble Doom~
Smash Rookie
Your arguments are valid. I'm constantly rereading since I'm never 100% sure on how to interpret stuff but your arguments do make sense and is causing th3kuzinator to crack and give us more information.
The only significance of your clearance is that any mistakes you make can't actually be viewed as Mafia, or am I wrong in taking this stance?
You are not wrong in taking that stance and I'm gonna give you a little power because of it. If you see me heading a wrong way or making a mistake try and correct me. Your one of my town reads at the current time.
So you think th3kuzi is cracking under the pressure of a wagon that has put him at L-3?
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
J, its clear you think having skepticism is a good feature for townies, and I totally agree. The only thing thats wrong with your skepticism is that you ask questions to the wrong people.
Don't you agree that Rockin's play thus far, specially toDay concerning my lynch are bogus? Why not ask him why he gave shoddy reasoning for voting me? Tery is town anyway, so that avenue of questioning will get us nowhere.
If I am wrong about Rockin, or any of the three, then lynch me straight away idc. Adopt those reads when I flip town.
Don't you agree that Rockin's play thus far, specially toDay concerning my lynch are bogus? Why not ask him why he gave shoddy reasoning for voting me? Tery is town anyway, so that avenue of questioning will get us nowhere.
If I am wrong about Rockin, or any of the three, then lynch me straight away idc. Adopt those reads when I flip town.
Delvro
Smash Ace
By the way, if anyone hammers before I finish reading, they're scum. Especially if they hammer Kuz.
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
If you wrote an informative, 2 hour long post which took lots of effort and inferencing just to be told that it was circumstantial and all trash because it relied solely on X1 meta (despite it only comprising like 1/8 of X1 meta (which is valid anyway)) you would be angry too.
Ran do you want me to prove that I can no longer execute anyone? I can do that now since Kuzi has 4 votes on him.
Execute: th3kuzinator
This will prove my ability was a one-shot. I also used my ability because the deadline was extremely close and none of the wagons had enough people to fufill a lynch and I was confident enough on my read on X1 to execute him.
I want th3kuzi dead because he is my strongest scum-read at the moment. When I believe someone is acting scummy I persue them.
Execute: th3kuzinator
This will prove my ability was a one-shot. I also used my ability because the deadline was extremely close and none of the wagons had enough people to fufill a lynch and I was confident enough on my read on X1 to execute him.
I want th3kuzi dead because he is my strongest scum-read at the moment. When I believe someone is acting scummy I persue them.
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I called you three out for inactivity, but I asked Kirb that because he said this:
"Vocal, Cello is not scum. At least from what I can tell so far."
That was his 283. I was thinking if he thought Cello was town, then who did he think was scum?
@Everyone: Do you think Cello ignored X1 following him? Do you think he noticed it but kept quiet about it until near deadline to lynch him?
I feel as though that would be something to be questioning. He didn't seem to care. (I have asked him about it)
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
Lol scared the **** out of me.
J, who is your 2nd and 3rd pick?
J, who is your 2nd and 3rd pick?
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@J: Thank you. Although you didn't have to do it like that, but thanks for showing me.
J, do you think Cello may have been scum for not noticing what you noticed? (About X1)
I asked you because I was suspicious as to why you wanted him dead.
J, do you think Cello may have been scum for not noticing what you noticed? (About X1)
I asked you because I was suspicious as to why you wanted him dead.
2nd: DH
3rd: Dependant on your flip/KY's possible flip but I'd say Rockin.
How else should I have shown you?
Cello ignores me on purpose because he holds animosity to me and my playstyle. If it was brought up by me, it's null that he ignored it.
Proof ?
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The nicest of the damned.
Tery what is it that you want to see from me?
J I will not vote Kuz. I have my mind on others right now (mainly Tanny) and I want to look into them first. Plus he's already at L_3, that's fine eough.
From Kuz's interactios with X1 I do simply want to call him town but there is one thing about him that trouble me, that being that his entrance into toDay was indeed scummy as J pointed out. Kuz kinda came into toDay off his rocker about clearing himself.
As the queen in Hamlet would say: "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
Ran that question to J is silly. Just look at what he has had to say toDay and you will get your answer.
J I will not vote Kuz. I have my mind on others right now (mainly Tanny) and I want to look into them first. Plus he's already at L_3, that's fine eough.
From Kuz's interactios with X1 I do simply want to call him town but there is one thing about him that trouble me, that being that his entrance into toDay was indeed scummy as J pointed out. Kuz kinda came into toDay off his rocker about clearing himself.
As the queen in Hamlet would say: "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
Ran that question to J is silly. Just look at what he has had to say toDay and you will get your answer.
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
K whatever I was a little too assuming that I would be cleared. I would argue that doing that as scum would be stupid, but J will just tell me not to WIFOM.
Scum IS between
Ran
Vocal
Tom
Kirby
Rockin
Tanny
because everyone else is cleared in my mind
I would like to say Ran and vocal are town from playstyle (and tom needs to catch up) which leaves the other three, but if all of them go eventually I am satisfied. The latter three first preferably.
Scum IS between
Ran
Vocal
Tom
Kirby
Rockin
Tanny
because everyone else is cleared in my mind
I would like to say Ran and vocal are town from playstyle (and tom needs to catch up) which leaves the other three, but if all of them go eventually I am satisfied. The latter three first preferably.
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@J: I mean you asked me, and then proceeded to do the execution example anyways. I said that you could just have asked me and waited for a response.
I don't know. J and Tandora are the only ones who want you dead as if you were scum. The others only voted because they are sure of J's read. I need to look into why Tandora is pressuring you now...
Although, I agree with J about Kuz wanting me dead for my interactions with X1. He agreed with Kirb about my death.
Kirb was content on lynching me because of X1's actions, and not mine. So J, I'd go Kuz/Kirb most likely.
But Kuz now says me and Vocal are town. a little suspicious.
Kuz, do you think X1 did that on purpose so J could get semi-cleared? Would you like J copped?
I don't know. J and Tandora are the only ones who want you dead as if you were scum. The others only voted because they are sure of J's read. I need to look into why Tandora is pressuring you now...
Although, I agree with J about Kuz wanting me dead for my interactions with X1. He agreed with Kirb about my death.
Kirb was content on lynching me because of X1's actions, and not mine. So J, I'd go Kuz/Kirb most likely.
But Kuz now says me and Vocal are town. a little suspicious.
Rockin, do you really think Kuz is scum? Who are your 3 scum picks?
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
J is town, I dont want J copped as it would waste a cop investigation.
Cop me if you must, I could care less.
And I agree with Delvro that Tanny more or less concentrated on giving advice D1 rather than stances and opinions. It is true that scum love to give advice.
Cop me if you must, I could care less.
And I agree with Delvro that Tanny more or less concentrated on giving advice D1 rather than stances and opinions. It is true that scum love to give advice.