Cello said:
Rockin, sworddancer (hi!), th3kuzinator, and Sold2 were on both wagons, so they must all be scum! Even S2.
Well after we eliminate Sold2, Me and Sword we only have Rockin who was left on both wagons.
th3kuzinator said:
vote -vocal-
you were the lone rider of that Dark Horse wagon d2. What do you have to say for yourself?
Which I still find has some merit, however, this is his response.
Vocal said:
Um...I'm severely confused @_@
You guys are saying that he took the activity from DBZ mafia and transplanted it here? What does that mean? Player count, roles, setup? I don't even want to start thinking about getting into the terrible business that would be trying to decipher those votecounts >.<
And
Vote: KirbYoshi
Yu no visit Oli boards no moar. I dun liek yu.
Does not even make reference to the vote I placed on him and simply skips over it to regress back to the flavor. Noobscum afraid to cross vote. At the time, I was L-5.'
Sworddancer's 97 is pretty weird. X1 DH and I have been going back and forth about my unvote and he just sidesteps the conversation and responds to a single vote by kirbyoshi
X1's 123 directly asks Sword to jump on my wagon while at L-3 and Swords refuses. DH plays pretty poorly concerning my wagon at that time, but I don't think he is scum for it.
After people had been discussing lynching Rockin for some time (Cello, Ran, DH, Kirbyoshi, Teryble) Vocal comes in with his 159 and completely changes the subject/comments on something trivial. Also take note that X1 was active in the conversation concerning my scuminess and DH's towniness but then disappeared when we started to talk about Rockin.
Tandora said:
Tandora said:
onestly, if I was Rockin' I'd be afraid to say anything any more. No matter what he says or how town he acts he gets lynched (in the two games I've been in with him of course)
Defending Rockin' despite him not having posted once the entire game.
Vocal said:
Um
Just throwing this out there
But why are you trying to garner support to lynch someone who hasn't even posted in the thread once yet? Posting to confirm knowledge that the game has begun and then becoming inactive is one thing, but that is not the case here. I find it curious that you focus on the only person not currently present, who may or may not have a good reason for being absent.
I'm not defending him or buddying him (as it makes me uncomfortable that he hasn't posted yet as well) but I would simply like to know more about your thought process.
Also backing up Rockin'. He even says he is not trying to defend or buddy him. The fact that he included that last passage means he was aware of how his post might come off and wanted to make sure he was not viewed in that light. If he knew that, why not simply revise his post? Cuz it would lose the message of "stop picking on Rockin."
Would also like to note the Vocal skipped over the entire Cello/X1 vs Kuz thing at the start of the Day and only got interested when his boy Rockin came under fire.
Tandora said:
Also, I double checked and the mod did not confirm Jester is not in this game. That makes me really nervous with Kuz's claims that there was a guilty on him, his self vote, and his strange logic on Vocal. Unless I am convinced otherwise, if Kuz goes to L-1, I will autohammer him. So, don't put Kuz to L-1 unless we're ready for him to die.
After reflecting back, Tando, would you still auto-hammer me if I got to L-1?
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11981764&postcount=176
Easy way to possibly interact with a Scumbuddy w/o posting much content.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11981866&postcount=179
More unneeded attention from X1 --> DH. I still maintain that DH is probably not scum.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11982036&postcount=191
Comes back after not posting for awhile and has nothing to actually say about the Rockin' lynch or the confrontation with X1/DH/Cello
X1 said:
@Ran: There are certain actions that you could do which most people would dismiss as noobtown, however if you do any of these actions I will get you lynched. What do you think about this?
This freaking comes of out nowhere. I dunno about SvS, looks SvT imo.
Vocal said:
I'm new to the world of forum mafia, but is it at all possible that Rockin has a role that keeps him from posting, especially since he's viewing it right now and still hasn't said anything?
Still defending Rockin's inactivity. Acknowledges he is new so people wont take his point on Rockin' too seriously.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11982366&postcount=211
This post seems accurate to how a townie might respond IMO. I think Ran is town.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11982556&postcount=219
Comes into the game after making a grand show that he had re-read everything and pretty much posted fluff or stuff we had already gone over.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11982740&postcount=221
Further just defends himself from Cello. Despite reading the game,
has nothing that stands out to him as scummy.
Actually, scratch what I said about Kirbyoshi being town, could go either way.
Cello asks Rockin about his stances on Kirbyoshi, since they both came under fire, and Rockin just chose to respond to the posts related to him and ignored talking about Kirbyoshi. Kirbyoshi/Rockin connection.
Sword noticed Ran's inactivity and Ran responded in a townie fashion. Very TvT interactions if you as ask me.
So from my above posts, I will remove Ranmaru and add Kirbyoshi.
Kirbyoshi
Tandora
Rockin
Vocal
Are all okay with me toDay (this if from the beginning of page 7)
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11983440&postcount=250
PERFECT scum buddy deflection. Is asked between Kirbyoshi or Rockin and throws out a tentative Kirbyoshi but then quickly says he would rather vote Cello than either of them. Major scum-vocal tell IMO.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11983999&postcount=255
@Vocal, can you explain the first sentance?
Second large paragraph shows he has not properly read the beginning of the Day.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11984164&postcount=257
That reasoning is ridiculous. It really did not take that much insight to realize that Rockin's entry posts were sub-par yet you clear him based on them. Reads to me as, "I dont want to vote Rockin even though hes posted 4 times and looks scummy, so lets see how Kirbyoshi will respond to pressure."
X1 said:
@Vocal: Do you have any objections if I literally ignore your posts with the exception of when you ask me questions and/or someone specifically asks me about you? This is to prevent me or you getting angry again, Majoras you know. To clarify this isn't a personal attack, our playstyles/personalities just clash so this is me trying to avoid that.
Does this not set off a warning flag from ANYONE?! They had not argued
once this entire game and suddenly, out of the blue, X1 tells everyone he has established a valid excuse for ignoring Vocal this entire game. I dont care about Majora's Mask johns, that simply Bull****
Cello said:
@Rockin and Kirbyoshi: Why do you refuse to talk about important subjects, including each other?
Took the freaking words out of my mouth.
Also this does a pretty good job.
Cello said:
Yes, DH. That's EXACTLY why we're lynching Kirbyoshi. It's not because he kept attacking Sworddancer for no reason at all well past RVS, including the "damned if you do, damned if you don't" tunneling/backed off moment. It's not because he tried to portray himself as Superhero Kirbyoshi by being the one who went back to DBZ to reread it for clues to help us all. It's not because he said Kuz isn't scum (buddying up to him), and yet did not either back it up or try to stop the momentum building up against him. Such as your hate of Kuz. Why doesn't he talk to you about how you think Kuz is scum? Shouldn't he see Kuz's scummy behavior (whatever that is, I don't see it either). It's not because he's more interested in Social Thread references than playing the game. It's not because he thought Sir Bed's posts were legit, when they are flaming piles of incandescent moonbow magical death stupid monkey barrels that need to be purified in the holy light of Chimmy Changa Taco. It's not because he's twice made excuses for his behavior. It's not because he gave Rockin a hard time for being inactive, but then tried to portray him in as good a light as possible after he "got into the game" (he hasn't yet, really).
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11984587&postcount=263
Simply agreeing that he will ignore X1 for the rest of the game -_-
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11984687&postcount=269
KIRBYOSHI DOES NOT EVEN RESPOND TO THAT WALL OF TEXT THAT CELLO RAISES AGAINST HIM, VOCAL HAS TO DO IT INSTEAD *facepalm*
Besides, the last three quotes that Vocal presents are the unimportant interactions Cello was talking about
1. "Is making you laugh a legitimate reason to back off" --> Self explanatory
2. Metaing the mod
3. Defending Rockin based on the fact that Rockin posted in a normal "catchup" playstyle, which we all know is BS because we should be able to assume the Rockin can make inferences for himself for his first post.
Kirbyoshi just rides this defense and just states that he agrees with Vocal.
Vocal and Kirbyoshi may be SvS, probably SvT.
Stepping back and taking a look, it seems to me that Vocal is kind of just flailing a case at Cello. TownVocal vs ScumKirbyoshi seems likely.
Also scum X1 flip flops on Kirbyoshi before the wagon can really get started.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11986531&postcount=293
Kirbyoshi tells vocal that Cello is not scum anymore and *poof* Vocal agrees. Still probably noobtown.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11985758&postcount=288
Ran, why did you only ask Kirby that question despite calling all three of us out?
Tanny said:
I can see the point Vocal is making. However, anyone can pretty much take three posts and make a point on them. I don't feel they necessarily prove KY's alignment. I think however, it does point positively towards Vocal for pulling them up.
"Vocal has a point, but that does not mean anything for Cello or KY, but the fact that Vocal even brought it up means hes leaning town"
K. Ill remove Vocal out for now, his reactions seem townish enough and it just looks like he is just making bad cases. I don't think he is very scummy.
Tanny/Kirbyoshi/Rockin are now the remaining 3.
Tanny said:
And I"m really glad we're moving away from the DBZ flavor and it being "D3". Although those reactions are good to look at, I don't think our whole discussions needed to be about them.
As far as X1 goes, yeah I see him as being scummy. But he's always on my scumdar and I've found that makes me tunnel unnecessarily. Ironically, it makes me less likely to lead a lynch on him because of that personal WIFOM.
For the first part --> Again, no one had talked about DBZ for some time, why do we keep returning to this?
For the second part --> "X1 is scummy, but I am not going to be too assertive on calling him out for it because he always looks scummy to me."
If tanny is scum I doubt Kirbyoshi is.
I was also scum buddies with Tanny in DnD. She also does not like to communicate with her buddies that much in thread. I could see Tanny/Rockin
Rockin said:
Vocal! I'm liking how you're posting right now. Plz keep it up. Do you feel there's anything scummy going on between me, Kirbyoshi, and Kuz? Also, don't be afraid to ask me stuff.
ScumRockin buddying TownVocal? Probably.
X1 said:
@Rockin: I disagree with you if you think wagonning on D1 is a bad play
When asked about Kirbyoshi vs Rockin, X1 goes Kirbyoshi while subsequently ignoring rockin. Now, to force an interaction, this is what he says? Thats all he can think to say to Rockin after all that content?
I'm still maintain Kirbyoshi/Tanny/Rockin, three best lynch candidates.
Still,
Unvote
Vote Rockin
I'll do more later, Rockin is a great play toDay, not only because he looks scummy and has terrible interactions with X1, but he will give me great reads on other players.
I also think Tanny vs Kirbyoshi is SvT. Tanny/Rockin possible again.
Sorry in advance for any typo I make