Inception mafia: Town and Indy Joint Win!

[Cello_Marl]

Oh, wait, we were on Vocal. Meeeeh. Don't wanna... but...

Vote Vocal

 

[Kirbyoshi]

My point is basically that X1 isn't that stupid.

Fix'd then

 

[th3kuzinator]

cello, vote tom.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

Also, I would support a Vocal lynch if he proves himself to be scummier than Ran toDay and/or it doesn't look likely that Ran will be lynched before deadline. But deadlines a long way off, so...

 

[Kirbyoshi]

Also also, voting Tom is a horrible idea. At least let him read up first. Derp.

 

[th3kuzinator]

shhhhh quiet kirby, i wanna see something

 

[Cello_Marl]

Unvote Vote Tom

Why do you want me to do that? Also, I'm not UTDZac. Also, seriously, why? Also, why?

 

[Kirbyoshi]

kuz, you're not setting it up very well if you're doing what I think you're doing. Also, I don't see why you would do it at all. We should get more Ran votes up in disjoint.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Btw, when Tom catches up, I'm latching onto him, so enjoy this while you can.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Cello vote either Ran or Vocal

 

[Cello_Marl]

No. You're just being dumb now.

Unvote

 

[Kirbyoshi]

kuz wtf. Like seriously. You shouldn't even feel the need to do this.

 

[Cello_Marl]

No no, rephrase. Unfun. There.

 

[th3kuzinator]

k, i no fun.

I am glad we had this little demonstration because I still don't get it, but apparently kirby does.

Probably not something he wants to talk about, so lets move on then shall we

 

[th3kuzinator]

Kirby whats your stance on DH? Would X1 plainly state he was town repeatedly if they were buddies?

 

[Tom]

Hi, everyone. I should be caught up in approx 24 hours. Thanks for your patience. I look forward to winning!

 

[Kirbyoshi]

I think DH might be someone to look into after Vocal/Ran, based on X1 connections, but I haven't seen anything lynch-worthy from him yet.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

@906

Vocal. Several things that he said yesterday & today (such as "I won't bring up the bad reasoning unless I make a case" and "KY is a waste of a lynch") give me more anti-town vibes from him then rockin.

@908

1. 13 man setup, no nk probably means that the Indy doesn't kill a person every night. Or a doc protected both

2. Are you suggesting kirb, who, if he is legit and makes it to Lylo, will cost town the game?

@cello

Have you ever been Indy?

 

[Rockin]

Okay, time to show my reason of why Kirbyoshie should be lynched

He's Lying about his role.

Since I have no idea what Ran will do, and I won't get the chance to claim at L-1, I'll claim now.

I'm Obi-Wan Kenobi, Suicidal Townie, meaning if I am ever at L-1, I MUST vote for myself with my next post, or be modkilled/Survivor-demoted.

Okay, first of all, anything with survivor related should be lynched no matter what.

2nd, that role is fake. Want proof? Check it here

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs22/f/2007/354/a/1/Mafia_Roles_by_mikeburnfire.swf

Suicidal Townie is a vig role and KILLS himself during N1. No if, ands, or buts. He's meant to live D1 and D1 only.

The only role in relation to that is the HATED townie, and he gets lynched a vote less then a normal townie (he is also pro-town). I highly doubt Obi-wan is hated that much (unless you're the bad guy) or that suicidal/emo.

So yeah, his role is fake and deserves to be lynched...like, now

Unvote Vote: Kirbyoshie

 

[#HBC | J]

Vote: Kirbyoshi

Explain, now.

 

[Cello_Marl]

He can't explain it. It's a role name that isn't awkward sounding and happens to be the same as another role. If I claimed to be a Town Angel, would you jump on me? No. Besides, what he COULDN'T fake, is the survivor wincon/modkill thing of his role. That's something Ronike would do, AND something that Kirbyoshi wouldn't think to use/add.

There are two ways you can approach this. You can consider both of us town, and I'm giving a sincere read. Or, you can consider him town, and I know that he's telling the truth because I'm scum. Either way, he's town. You can't possibly think we're both scum; if you do, then I'd love to hear your arguments.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Oh, also. Unvote Vote Rockin

Okay, time to show my reason of why Kirbyoshie should be lynched
He's Lying about his role.

Great. I'm glad you decided to bring this up now instead of last Night. You weren't worried that you were going to die, were you? If you were, you'd have said it then. Instead, what did you do? You ragged on Teryble Doom for talking about stuff that's not "beneficial to town".

Okay, first of all, anything with survivor related should be lynched no matter what.

Why? Are you just trying to soften the impact, make it seem like a "reasonable no matter what" choice?

Suicidal Townie is a vig role and KILLS himself during N1. No if, ands, or buts. He's meant to live D1 and D1 only.

The only role in relation to that is the HATED townie, and he gets lynched a vote less then a normal townie (he is also pro-town). I highly doubt Obi-wan is hated that much (unless you're the bad guy) or that suicidal/emo.

So yeah, his role is fake and deserves to be lynched...like, now

Right. Because Ronike ONLY uses the standard roles.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Respond to 938 plz

 

[th3kuzinator]

down with a rockin or vocal lynch toDay

ill do another re-read on it later.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Cello, you seemed to express concern when I said DH is town.

Would X1 make such a specific connection with his scum buddy DH?

 

[Tandora]

Cello, why are you playing follow the Kuz? Or at least was? What is the point to most of your posts? They're so fluffy, but you get to away with it because it's "town Cello play"?

Seriously, all you're doing is distracting us. What do you hope to accomplish with that?

Also, Kuz, why were you telling Cello to vote for people? What did you discover from doing that?

Okay, time to show my reason of why Kirbyoshie should be lynched

He's Lying about his role.



Okay, first of all, anything with survivor related should be lynched no matter what.

2nd, that role is fake. Want proof? Check it here

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs22/f/2007/354/a/1/Mafia_Roles_by_mikeburnfire.swf

Suicidal Townie is a vig role and KILLS himself during N1. No if, ands, or buts. He's meant to live D1 and D1 only.

The only role in relation to that is the HATED townie, and he gets lynched a vote less then a normal townie (he is also pro-town). I highly doubt Obi-wan is hated that much (unless you're the bad guy) or that suicidal/emo.

So yeah, his role is fake and deserves to be lynched...like, now

Unvote Vote: Kirbyoshie

Oooh, good job, Rockin!

VOTE KIRBYOSHI

 

[#HBC | J]

Tanny did you just skim.....?

Unvote

I need to re-read since I haven't been on the cpu for a bit =X

 

[Kirbyoshi]

Rockin, Mafia Trickster (X1's role) wasn't even IN the wiki. I looked it up. So you're argument about my role being "weird" is invalid. Also, my role is not "Survivor-related." The whole "demotion" thing simply meant that if I break my restriction by making a regular post at L-1, I cannot and will not win with town. Also, I agree with Cello that if you had an issue with my claim, you should have spoken up yesterDay.

 

[Cello_Marl]

@cello

Have you ever been Indy?

Cello, why are you playing follow the Kuz? Or at least was? What is the point to most of your posts? They're so fluffy, but you get to away with it because it's "town Cello play"?

Seriously, all you're doing is distracting us. What do you hope to accomplish with that?

NOT HELPFUL.

I would have put this in red, but I don't remember if that's against the rules or not, and I don't care to look it up.

@Dark Horse: I might answer your question if you tell why it matters. Or, you can ask someone else that you think knows and won't be so recalcitrant. Or look it up. Take whatever route you think is most expedient. I like expedient.

@Tanny: Distracting isn't all I'm doing. People that aren't so obsessive about their paranoia that Cello is some sort of malignant master manipulator or dastardly deceptive deviant can use it as a tell.

Cello, you seemed to express concern when I said DH is town.

Would X1 make such a specific connection with his scum buddy DH?

Don't know, don't care. Completely happy to get rid of Dark Horse. Happier with lynching Rockin.

 

[#HBC | J]

Dark Horse weren't you in a game where Cello was an indie? IIRC you were so why are you asking that question anyways?

 

[Teryble Doom~]

I'll be catching up from the middle-ish of th3kuzinator and Dark Horse's argument. However, I will say that I'm not too sure if I believe what Rockin has posted (through Tandora's quote) about role shenanigans, also seemingly right after X1-12 was executed.

What does a Trickster do? Sorry if this is answered somewhere in the previous pages. I'll start reading up now.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Cello, because I suspect you of being the Indy.

At the end of D1, you swapped wagons when the deadline was extremley close.

Today, you just follow Kuz. When tandora points this out, you just say "Unimportant"

Even though you seem to acknowledge that x1 ignores his scumbuds, you're still pushing for my lynch.

You're playing anti-town, yet this doesn't match up with your scum play.

 

[#HBC | J]

DH, I swapped alot of wagons.

Does this coincide with my town play or does it fit my indie play or does it fit my scum play? Is it anti-town?

Is the only reason you are clearing yourself is because of X1's apparant scum meta?

 

[Cello_Marl]

Cello, because I suspect you of being the Indy.

Great.

At the end of D1, you swapped wagons when the deadline was extremley close.

And?

Today, you just follow Kuz. When tandora points this out, you just say "Unimportant"

And? Besides, this occured AFTER you asked your indy question. You cannot use something that occurs after your initial suspicion/accusation/whatever as a basis FOR the suspicion/accusation/whatever.

Even though you seem to acknowledge that x1 ignores his scumbuds, you're still pushing for my lynch.

When did I do this? I seem to remember simply not caring.

You're playing anti-town, yet this doesn't match up with your scum play.

Please, continue.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

DH, Cello is not pushing for your lynch at all. Paranoid much?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

DH, Cello is not pushing for your lynch at all. Paranoid much?

[quite]Don't know, don't care. Completely happy to get rid of Dark Horse. Happier with lynching Rockin.[/QUOTE]

"completely happy to get rid of DH"

And?

It was like YIU were trying to cause a Nl.

And? Besides, this occured AFTER you asked your indy question. You cannot use something that occurs after your initial suspicion/accusation/whatever as a basis FOR the suspicion/accusation/whatever.

I had you pegged as Indy when I saw your anti-town play and realize there are 13 ( now 12) people. That evidence strengthened my case.

When did I do this? I seem to remember simply not caring.

Look up.

And now you're contradicting yourself.

All you've said is "and, so, okay, can't use that", and a contradiction



J, though you did follow them, cello started them


Please, continue.[/QUOTE]

 

[th3kuzinator]

Also amuses me he refused to accept im town cuz of meta yet will gladly take the oppertunity that I present him if it uses meta to clear himself.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Just cause he wants to get rid of you does not mean he is pushing your wagon. He is currently on rockin, not you.

Maybe hes crumbing hes paranoid

/badjoke.

 

[#HBC | J]

Vote: Dark Horse

You might wanna re-read who actually started flipping instead of Cello instead of trying to pin him as an indie.

Tery-> X1, J, Cello iirc was the order
X1-> J
Rockin->Cello
th3kuzi->X1
DH->X1
Kirbyoshi->Cello

Sooooo all I'm seeing is 2 out of the possible 6 built wagons.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Kuz, did you think I would try and clear myself without acknowledging the fact that it clears you?