IMPULSE 2012 SSB64 tournament results - Toronto

[King Funk]

Yeah well we don't live in Europe

Well in Europe we don't play on garbage stages like Hyrule.

 

[Olikus]

pwned star king. just pwned.

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

if slavic countries had a smash scene

hyrule would be banned.

 

[The Star King]

King Funk bringing up Hyrule every 64 thread he posts in

Talk about desperation

 

[malva00]

hyrule is the best stage in the game

good to hear people are playing on CONSOLE

i've been playing too much stupid diablo. i'd probably lose to YBOMBB TOO

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

onett should have been a 64 stage.

 

[Sangoku]

You mean as in, it would have been good if it were there, or as in, it was planned to be there, but then removed?

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

The former.

anglais est putain que bête.

 

[YBOMBB]

Hey Star killer. did you really just compare me to unknown??
please never ever do that again. and also i didn't play smash with you for at least a year so don't pretend that you know whose better between me and nintedude. Also online and console for me are totally different and only B Link and *** vwls saw me play console live.

 

[King Funk]

Hey Star killer. did you really just compare me to unknown??
please never ever do that again. and also i didn't play smash with you for at least a year so don't pretend that you know whose better between me and nintedude. Also online and console for me are totally different and only B Link and *** vwls saw me play console live.

Get em, YBOMBB.

Are you coming to Apex 2013? Would love to play you.

 

[TANK64]

I still don't believe that's YBOMBB.

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

Surri has camped me harder than anyone I've ever played in ssb64.

So don't listen to him.

Feel free to hate on campers all you want people, you've got my permission.

Actually you're wrong.

Yoshi can't really approach anything above him, since he technically only has one jump. You're an idiot if you go chasing after people above you the whole match with your second jump with Yoshi. That's a hole in Yoshi's game not mine.

Now my Fox, that's probably more my issue than Fox's. I just get bored and annoyed at someone who is literally jumping above me all match so I run after them.

Hating on a strategy that works on you? hahahahahaha. Sheer, you're killing me here. Tournament matches are meant to be "play to win", not let's get hit by sheer.

All Surri was doing was exploiting a weakness in your game. You should find out a strategy that works against people like Surri rather than complaining about subjective camping, especially if it's dreamland.

 

[WOTG]

This thread is such a fuss all because YBOMBB beat Nintendude in a tourney. Oh the power that YBOMBB sparks

 

[SheerMadness]

I play ssb64 for fun. I don't have fun chasing someone who's double jumping on the top platforms of dreamland the entire match.

So not playing Surri seems like a better solution for me.

Not everyone enjoys the "play as gay as you possibly can to win" mentality.

You, Jaime, and malva can have your 7 minute campy tournament matches. If you have fun with that more power to you guys. That will never be me, because I'd rather approach and possibly lose than play defensive and campy. Camping is not fun for me.

Everyone enjoys this game for different reasons so speak for yourself, not others.

 

[KnitePhox]

I play ssb64 for fun. I don't have fun chasing someone who's double jumping on the top platforms of dreamland the entire match.

So not playing Surri seems like a better solution for me.

Not everyone enjoys the "play as gay as you possibly can to win" mentality.

You, Jaime, and malva can have your 7 minute campy tournament matches. If you have fun with that more power to you guys. That will never be me, because I'd rather approach and possibly lose than play defensive and campy. Camping is not fun for me.

Everyone enjoys this game for different reasons so speak for yourself, not others.

I'd say I have similar mentality when it comes to playing(no camping) only I don't throw ppl back on stage and I do try to edgeguard, I will on occasion gentlemencide though.

...that reminds me of playing a serious Zhin on console....I was getting camped really hard with 0 approaches and I suppose he's a better player than me for being consistently 'safe'....quite the troll on me I must say, low to no amounts of fun were had during any matches like that; not because of losing, cuz I didn't lose them all, but because of all the waiting

People spend so much time waiting to play outside of the game only to start playing and continue waiting.....I don't understand how that's even remotely fun

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

I play ssb64 for fun. I don't have fun chasing someone who's double jumping on the top platforms of dreamland the entire match.

Looks like you don't have fun competing when you complain about strategies used in tournaments. You'll have more fun when you realize how to play.

So not playing Surri seems like a better solution for me.

How are you going to avoid playing Surri in tournament? Forfeit?

You, Jaime, and malva can have your 7 minute campy tournament matches. If you have fun with that more power to you guys. That will never be me, because I'd rather approach and possibly lose than play defensive and campy. Camping is not fun for me.

Everyone enjoys this game for different reasons so speak for yourself, not others.

So if you want to enter tournaments and just play how you want, that's totally fine, but when you complain about losing to a tournament tactic, then you're just being a scrub with a ****ty mindset. Just get your stupid scrub attitude set straight already.

 

[SheerMadness]

Stop being ignorant. Just because you can find a way to enjoy campy defensive play doesn't mean everyone can. And it doesn't mean everyone who can't has a scrub mindset lol. Even if it did I could give a **** what you think about me anyway.

Mango and PP were commentating the hungrybox/m2k set where m2k went puff on hungrybox. They were both talking about how gay, boring, and bad for the game campy matches like that are.

So I guess two of the top 3 melee players in the world have scrub mindsets too.

Hell even your best bud KnitePhox talks about how boring and annoying he finds camping to be on the post right above yours.

When will I ever have to play Surri? I never go to console events (I'm gonna try for at least one though eventually) and neither does he.

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

Stop being ignorant. Just because you can find a way to enjoy campy defensive play doesn't mean everyone can. And it doesn't mean everyone who can't has a scrub mindset lol. Even if it did I could give a **** what you think about me anyway.

I don't see how I'm being ignorant here. I've come and gone from the camping hating phase. Slow gameplay is fine, but there's a few things that pose problems in comp play, hyrule to name one heh.

Spoiler

inb4 hurr durr hyrule camping

Mango and PP were commentating the hungrybox/m2k set where m2k went puff on hungrybox. They were both talking about how gay, boring, and bad for the game campy matches like that are.

So I guess two of the top 3 melee players in the world have scrub mindsets too.

Ok that match was hilarious to watch. Seeing m2k use a character he doesn't play in tournament against a top player and have a lead is funny. I didn't get to hear the commentary. Bet they were buttflustered.

So did you think the melee apex finals were too slow/campy as well?

Hell even your best bud KnitePhox talks about how boring and annoying he finds camping to be on the post right above yours.

defensive play =/= camping

I don't care what knite thinks about defensive play, it's still going to happen. Also, I don't see the big issue with defensive play. Better call me ignorant for not wanting to complain about it lol.

When will I ever have to play Surri? I never go to console events (I'm gonna try for at least one though eventually) and neither does he.

Try going to Apex? You and Surri can have a grudge set!

 

[SheerMadness]

I called you ignorant for thinking people who hate camping are scrubs with lame mindsets, which clearly isn't the case. I think far more of the smash community dislikes camping than the part that thinks of it as a commendable and legit tournament strategy.

And the skill level really has nothing to do with how those camps are divided, which is why I provided the Mango/PP example.

I don't know what I'll go to. But I need to go to a big console tourney before I completely quit caring about smash. Who knows which one I'll show up to.

 

[King Funk]

That match with M2K's Puff was really hilarious. I actually found it more entertaining than the average matches on the stream.

Would like to hear from Malva why he thinks Hyrule is "the best stage in the game"... =p

 

[Olikus]

he likes hiking, therefore he might like camping, therefore he might like tents. Easy logic =D

I like bumpers in the road, therefore I like triangle walls, therefore I like peach castle =D

 

[prisonchild]

man! i cant believe i missed this, even though i havent really played since school ended and wouldve been nintendude rusty.

hope you guys had a good time, without me

 

[Battlecow]

Play to win scrubs, this forum has always been where the competitive players hang out. Competitive=play to win=camp if it's a good strategy

I can see B link's frustration with 20 minute matches

hyrule creates them 'cause it's competitively broken

if we had more players like m2k we'd see that

m2k I respect your strategy but you're not that good at 64, stop feeling yourself. I've seen your matches with morino.

Good job YBOMBB

nintendude you should MM him at apex

 

[Mahie]

Can we all agree that the tournament was free and thus it doesn't matter who won and with what strategy ?

Also Sheer you should look up the definition of scrub, because you're definitely one. It's ok to have fun, but that's not how competition works, and this comes from a camp-hater-scrub as well.

I'll save you the trouble : http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/intermediates-guide.html

 

[SheerMadness]

Ha, there's no chance I'm reading all that. I can already tell you I disagree with it without even reading it.

In smash, there does not appear to be any correlation between disliking camping and skill level. None at all. Mango and PP very openly hate on camping as much as anyone and they're literally 2 of the best 3 melee players in the world.

No argument could possibly be created to convince me that they're scrubs.

It's an absolutely ridiculous notion to be honest.

 

[ballin4life]

ITT people use two completely different definitions of the word scrub.

I can confirm that Mahie's link to sirlin.net is an interesting read (I've read all the articles on there)

he likes hiking, therefore he might like camping, therefore he might like tents. Easy logic =D

i literally loled at this haha

i'd probably lose to YBOMBB

sig for YBOMBB AMIRITE?

 

[King Funk]

No one should ever be blamed for using whatever the game and ruleset provides him to win in a tournament.

Mango and PP hate on camping? But what makes you think this makes camping illegitimate in any way? Nobody in their right mind cares whether it's boring or not in a tournament setting. All that really matters is winning no matter what, and some poor little soul can't deal with that aspect of competitive gaming I suggest him to quit.

Also, I can't believe you used those two players as some kind of example that "even good players can hate on...". Do you honestly believe they are serious about their "hate" of camping? Do you honestly think that they didn't use a lot of camping themselves, dealt with a lot of camping, found counters to camping and even found counters to what countered their own camping? Of course they aren't scrubs. The scrubs are the people who interpret those remarks as some kind of untouchable proof that players should all dislike camping. The players that truly do are only limiting their own progress with the game.

 

[Mahie]

And of course Mango and PP always beat Armada.

Oh by the way I didn't tell you to camp. I said you needed to acknowledge that it is a normal part of competition.

 

[WOTG]

I don't see the point of arguing. It's pretty simple. Just because something is possible or part of the game, doesn't mean you have to like it.

For me, I think campy play is boring, which is why I like to play aggressive. Sometimes I don't want to play a defensive player, so I tell them not to join my game. If it's a tourney, then so be it, doesn't mean I have to pretend to like it.

 

[Battlecow]

^^Solid sense up here

likewise, mango and PP don't like the camping they see, but they still put up with it because they're competitive players and they play to win.

 

[SSBPete]

play to win

if you don't like campy play styles, don't enter tourneys then ***** about campy play styles

simple, tourneys arnt for you

 

[SheerMadness]

The scrubs are the people who interpret those remarks as some kind of untouchable proof that players should all dislike camping.

Nope, you're being ignorant too. I never said anything remotely close to this.

I said there's no correlation between hating camping and being a scrub. It's absolutely ridiculous to suggest that anyone who hates camping is a scrub, which is what people are doing in this thread.

No one will ever be able to prove that hating camping = being a scrub.

Yes, competitive players will always have to deal with camping at some point. It doesn't stop us from joining tourneys. But it also doesn't mean we can't hate it. Because there are plenty of us that do.

 

[Surri-Sama]

Hate camping if you want, just don't complain about losing to it in a tourney, or try to change the rules of the game in order to fit YOUR idea of fun.

If you do either of those things, you're a scrub, say "it's not possible" all you want.

 

[SheerMadness]

Does anyone want to attempt to argue with the only statement I've maintained this whole thread? Because everyone seems to want to argue around it but completely avoid the actual statement.

There's no correlation between hating camping and being a scrub in smash.

Can anyone even attempt to argue against that?

Because there seems to be an overwhelming amount of evidence that suggests one can hate camping yet still participate in competitive events and win.

 

[Surri-Sama]

does anyone want to attempt to argue with the only statement i've maintained this whole thread? Because everyone seems to want to argue around it but completely avoid the actual statement.

there's no correlation between hating camping and being a scrub in smash.

can anyone even attempt to argue against that?

Because there seems to be an overwhelming amount of evidence that suggests one can hate camping yet still participate in competitive events and win.

hate camping if you want, just don't complain about losing to it in a tourney, or try to change the rules of the game in order to fit your idea of fun.

If you do either of those things, you're a scrub, say "it's not possible" all you want.

. .

 

[Morin0]

I can't think of a more fun tourney experience than pwning someone who camps.

 

[King Funk]

I can't think of a more fun tourney experience than pwning someone who camps.

I cannot agree with more with this.

 

[ballin4life]

Does anyone want to attempt to argue with the only statement I've maintained this whole thread? Because everyone seems to want to argue around it but completely avoid the actual statement.

There's no correlation between hating camping and being a scrub in smash.

Can anyone even attempt to argue against that?

Because there seems to be an overwhelming amount of evidence that suggests one can hate camping yet still participate in competitive events and win.

As i said before you're using different definitions of the word "scrub". When they use the word "scrub" they mean someone who complains about something being "cheap". Not necessarily someone who is flat out bad at the game.

 

[SheerMadness]

Then they're using a made up definition of the word scrub. The only definitions I can find that make any sense in the context of this discussion are:

adjective
7.
small, undersized, or stunted.
8.
inferior or insignificant.


And I think I've given examples that prove there's no real correlation between hating camping and a player who is stunted, inferior, or insignificant. At least, nobody has been able to argue against it thus far.

So I don't wanna hear any more scrub***s (PWNED) talk about camping hate and scrubs like they're somehow related. =]


On a sad note this argument has been the fun point of my day. I need to get the **** out of the house (but it's all rainey and **** =[).

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

it's all florida-like and ****.