"I'm not racist. I stereotype - it's faster."

[StealthyGunnar]

What? That has nothing to do with what I said.

im just trying to let u know that im posting any of these stupid ssb4 threads, etc.

I'm black, and I do love watermelon, chicken, and grape drink. That said, one should avoid drawing attention to negative stereotypes, because they are insulting to some, and generalky not worth mentioning.

this is true, but one will take it as one will take it.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

This should just be another rap battle thread imo

 

[Flutter NiTE]

like every other thread on this site that is still alive, it has a purpose.

I brought it back from the dead.

 

[Vinylic.]

Stop bringing useless threads back.

 

[StealthyGunnar]

Stop bringing useless threads back.

it's uselessness has yet to be determined. ponies rule, solid doesnt drool, dont know how to rap so im stickin' it to u, FOOL!

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

I brought it back from the dead.

And that was a ****ing stupid thing to do.

 

[StealthyGunnar]

And that was a ****ing stupid thing to do.

could we be friends if i wrote u a rap?

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Hell we can be friends now.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB2gPZRsz0Q
You got a friend in Solid.

Also, if you had to read this book like I did for a class, http://www.amazon.com/Racial-Domination-Progress-Sociology-America/dp/0072970510
you will not really agree that stereotyping is different from racism. Rather the idea is that stereotyping invokes some deep rooted racism.

 

[El Nino]

Nino's bro: ...sort of like exploding watermelons in China.
Nino: Is that some kind of secret weapon developed against black people?
Bro: Wow. DUDE. That's racist. Even for me.
Nino: No, no...there's this thread...online...on a video game forum...I was just...
Bro: Yeah, whatever. Way to be offensive, man.
Nino: It's not like that...

Thanks, UB. Now my own brother thinks I'm a racist.

Moral of the story: Provide your own context, or the world will provide it for you.

 

[Browny]

damn straight @ OP

Apparently its wrong for me to say that black people like watermelon. Therefore shouldnt the same apply to people saying that australians like vegemite?

The key thing that people like your dad seem to ignore is 'vilificiation'. Me saying that black people like watermelon isnt bad, watermelon is awesome whats the problem with liking it? It's when you attach that stereotype to something bad, then its an issue. If for example, people who ate Watermelon had a tendency to start pub fights and beat up their wife, yeah then you might have a problem when you lump them all together.

This was probably already said but I cbf reading this huge thread lol. Anyway, not being able to make a perfectly innocent, 100% factual statement about a distinct group of people while not generalising the entire race, is completely ****ing ********. By the way, this entire post is also aimed at the racist UCLA girl who as Ive said from the start, didnt make a single racial vilifying slur, she merely stated the facts. If anything she said was racist, then anyone who ever said that Australian's like vegemite is equally as racist.

 

[frotaz37]

Saying that Australians like Vegemite has more to do with nationality than race, so I'm not sure if it's racist..
If you were to say that all aboriginal Australian people like Vegemite, then it would definitely be a better example of a racist comment.

A problem I have with the "Black people like watermelon" comment is that it's dishonest, because everyone likes watermelon...right? The statement might be 100% factual but that doesn't make it innocent.

So...you walk into a room and see a black person and a white person eating watermelon. When you leave the room, your friend asks what was in it. If all you said "There was a black person eating watermelon", you wouldn't be lying, but you wouldn't be telling the whole truth. You would be purposely leaving something out in order to single out one of the individuals based on race. Sure, not telling your friend the whole truth doesn't really hurt anyone directly, but isn't it sort of dishonest and pointless to leave a big portion of the story out?

 

[Browny]

Again, the key factor people miss out is the vilification of such a statement.

You cant simply lump a generalisation like 'all aboriginal australians like vegemite' into the same category as something offensive. If i was aboriginal and someone told me that all aboriginals liked vegemite im pretty sure id just smile and nod, theres NOTHING wrong with it.

 

[frotaz37]

I explained what is wrong with it in my previous post.

 

[Browny]

So 'singling someone out' is now the same as an offensive statement?

At what stage in your example have you or your friend made a judgement of the person with the watermelon?

I dont get it at all. If racism in this world was limited to mocking people because they have a tendency to like a particular food 'lol all asians like rice OMG racist!', then it would be a much happier place. Fried chicken and watermelon are merely stereotypes to me, no different to saying that all europeans like soccer. its completely harmless.

 

[Teran]

I'm sorry but making generalisations about a race's culinary habits isn't racist. I mean, all black people like chicken, it may not be true but like seriously, how is that offensive? Is liking chicken some sort of insult nowadays?

I mean unless you're calling them cannibals or you deride the culinary habits while you make the comment, it is not racist at all because last I heard, saying someone likes a certain food is no indication that you hate them unconditionally.

 

[StealthyGunnar]

some1 liking chicken IS NOT racist. ppl r just so stupid that if u said all black ppl like chicken, and they were indeed black, might take offense at what u said, thinking it's racist.

 

[john!]

wait, so now something has to be hateful and offensive in order to be racist? where do you guys get this stuff lol

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

rac·ism

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noun 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.


John, explain to me how saying black people like watermelon goes along with any of the above.

 

[Vinylic.]

or just grape juice.

 

[john!]

rac·ism

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noun 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.


John, explain to me how saying black people like watermelon goes along with any of the above.

"black people like watermelon" is a belief in an inherent cultural difference between races

 

[:mad:]

I like my definition better, Matt.

 

[Teran]

You have such boyish handwriting. xD

Oh by the way the answer was taxonomy.

"black people like watermelon" is a belief in an inherent cultural difference between races

Yes but if you don't believe that difference makes them inferior then you aren't being racist.

 

[:mad:]

Actually, this is my handwriting.

Spoiler

It's still bad, though hahaha.

 

[StealthyGunnar]

You have such boyish handwriting. xD

Oh by the way the answer was taxonomy.




Yes but if you don't believe that difference makes them inferior then you aren't being racist.

^exactly. i like u more every day, teran.

 

[Teran]

Actually, this is my handwriting.

Spoiler

It's still bad, though hahaha.

It's not bad, but totally boyish. ;D

^exactly. i like u more every day, teran.

I have that effect on people.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

"black people like watermelon" is a belief in an inherent cultural difference between races

The definition is that this inherent cultural difference DETERMINES ACHIEVEMENT. Read the whole definition, please.

I like my definition better, Matt.

Also completely valid.

Actually, this is my handwriting.

Spoiler

It's still bad, though hahaha.

Better than mine haha. Also that essay is awesome.

You have such boyish handwriting. xD

Oh by the way the answer was taxonomy.

Taxonomy more like taxidermy.

 

[Teran]

**** my science degree.

 

[:mad:]

And yeah I knew the real answer, but I do enjoy being a smartass and doing stuff like this.

 

[StealthyGunnar]

And yeah I knew the real answer, but I do enjoy being a smartass and doing stuff like this.

^that's ****ing hilarious. ppl dont like smartasses like u or me, but it's more fun.

 

[john!]

Yes but if you don't believe that difference makes them inferior then you aren't being racist.

i believe it makes them superior to all other races. that's not racist?

 

[frotaz37]

I don't see the point in arguing over the dictionary definition of racism. Being stereotypical might not OFFICIALLY be considered racist, but does that really matter? I don't think it does at all. Just because something doesn't fit the dictionary definition of racist doesn't mean it isn't offensive.

How is saying that all black people like chicken offensive? A few years ago, I was around a girl a lot who thought that me being black was the most HILARIOUS thing ever. When she would introduce me to her friends, she would say "OH HE'S BLACK BY THE WAY". If I ever ate chicken, she would say "HAHA IT'S CAUSE YOUR BLACK". If I ever listened to rap, or mentioned that I liked a rap song..."HAHA IT'S CAUSE YOU'RE BLACK". If I would order brown rice instead of white rice in a burrito..."HAHA IT'S CAUSE YOU'RE BLACK".

It gets tiresome really quick. It's not fun to be constantly told by people that the reason you are the way you are is because of your race. It's insulting and no amount of "well it's not TECHNICALLY RACIST ACCORDING TO THE DICTIONARY!" will change that.

 

[El Nino]

"black people like watermelon" is a belief in an inherent cultural difference between races

Race and culture are not the same thing.

 

[john!]

Race and culture are not the same thing.

never said they were. you think that there isn't different culture among different races in the same community?

 

[El Nino]

never said they were. you think that there isn't different culture among different races in the same community?

Do you think there are cultural differences within the same race?

 

[Browny]

I don't see the point in arguing over the dictionary definition of racism. Being stereotypical might not OFFICIALLY be considered racist, but does that really matter? I don't think it does at all. Just because something doesn't fit the dictionary definition of racist doesn't mean it isn't offensive.

How is saying that all black people like chicken offensive? A few years ago, I was around a girl a lot who thought that me being black was the most HILARIOUS thing ever. When she would introduce me to her friends, she would say "OH HE'S BLACK BY THE WAY". If I ever ate chicken, she would say "HAHA IT'S CAUSE YOUR BLACK". If I ever listened to rap, or mentioned that I liked a rap song..."HAHA IT'S CAUSE YOU'RE BLACK". If I would order brown rice instead of white rice in a burrito..."HAHA IT'S CAUSE YOU'RE BLACK".

It gets tiresome really quick. It's not fun to be constantly told by people that the reason you are the way you are is because of your race. It's insulting and no amount of "well it's not TECHNICALLY RACIST ACCORDING TO THE DICTIONARY!" will change that.

pretty sure that girl is a stupid ****wit

oh and racist

if you happened to like chicken and rap music, and she merely said to her friends something along the lines of 'he likes chicken and rap music' and left it at that, thats not racist. there is no hate. if there was hate or prejudice as a result of this, the only people it would come from would be her friends, she didnt do anything wrong. they can either be like 'ok' or if they made a comment about 'its coz youre black etc' then thats racist.

such a big difference man.

 

[Teran]

I don't see the point in arguing over the dictionary definition of racism. Being stereotypical might not OFFICIALLY be considered racist, but does that really matter? I don't think it does at all. Just because something doesn't fit the dictionary definition of racist doesn't mean it isn't offensive.

How is saying that all black people like chicken offensive? A few years ago, I was around a girl a lot who thought that me being black was the most HILARIOUS thing ever. When she would introduce me to her friends, she would say "OH HE'S BLACK BY THE WAY". If I ever ate chicken, she would say "HAHA IT'S CAUSE YOUR BLACK". If I ever listened to rap, or mentioned that I liked a rap song..."HAHA IT'S CAUSE YOU'RE BLACK". If I would order brown rice instead of white rice in a burrito..."HAHA IT'S CAUSE YOU'RE BLACK".

It gets tiresome really quick. It's not fun to be constantly told by people that the reason you are the way you are is because of your race. It's insulting and no amount of "well it's not TECHNICALLY RACIST ACCORDING TO THE DICTIONARY!" will change that.

Lol it can get slightly tiresome I agree but tbh you just have to grow thicker skin.

I'm gay I deal with an endless onslaught of stuff, like all my friends listen to say Lady Gaga and I don't, and they'll be like WHAT BUT YOU'RE GAY and for example I like some song because it's catchy and haha it's cause I'm gay obv, I mean I don't really mind it it's to be expected, not to mention I get constant reminders in pretty much any situation.

"Hey would you **** that boy? That one? That one?"
"Hey bro you're a ***got how am I looking tonight, looking good? Will girls come after me?"
"What's it like to swallow?"

I mean I've been dealt a hand in life and instead of complaining about the minorly stupid things that come with it I like to worry about things that actually matter.

Actually that's a lie I don't worry about anything but that's not really a good thing LOL.

 

[JoFTWin]

And stereotypes are not real and If you believe that crap, your brain is smaller than a korean *****.

Lol well played.

 

[Vinylic.]

Yeah i'm not talking about racism and steryotypes anymore. This thread has gone far enough.
There's some other stuff now. Political Brony Invasion. Including this *warning: lots of swearing*:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiHNeaGP6X4&feature=player_embedded#at=735


And ty, joft.

 

[frotaz37]

Lol it can get slightly tiresome I agree but tbh you just have to grow thicker skin.

I'm gay I deal with an endless onslaught of stuff, like all my friends listen to say Lady Gaga and I don't, and they'll be like WHAT BUT YOU'RE GAY and for example I like some song because it's catchy and haha it's cause I'm gay obv, I mean I don't really mind it it's to be expected, not to mention I get constant reminders in pretty much any situation.

"Hey would you **** that boy? That one? That one?"
"Hey bro you're a ***got how am I looking tonight, looking good? Will girls come after me?"
"What's it like to swallow?"

I mean I've been dealt a hand in life and instead of complaining about the minorly stupid things that come with it I like to worry about things that actually matter.

Actually that's a lie I don't worry about anything but that's not really a good thing LOL.

I don't worry about it, I just don't hang around people like that anymore.

It's great that you don't get bothered by constant comments like that, but that doesn't mean there's nothing wrong with the comments. Even if they aren't offensive to you, they're still often childish, ignorant, seriously lacking in humor and most of all they are a huge waste of time...plus then you run the risk of people thinking it's okay and saying ridiculous things when they are acting a fool.

Ever heard somebody say, after making a rude comment, "Well I have lots of ______ friends and they don't care when I say stuff like that"? As if they have somehow escaped all responsibility for their behavior because somebody else, somewhere else, doesn't mind if they say certain things.

What you allow is what you teach