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I'm beginning to think Pit is overpowered.

Pit the archangel

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Yup. As peoples are already saying, people can just get around his strengths to beat him T___T
*If* he really was that overpowered, wouldn't everyone just main him instead?
Nope (^_^) So....it's just a matter of recongnizing Pros and Cons of Pit's, and taking advantage of that.

......That's kinda what everyone else already said....and.....I'm maining Pit right now XD

So....yeah. I'm on both sides here.....be verstile! You don't have to join the crowd! (^_^)
(Unless they're super-powered, destroy the rest of the population unless you join them crowd O.o)
 

cHooKay

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ohh no pit is not broken, try using pit against metaknight and see if your opinion stays the same. Sakurai stated he wanted to balance out the game, but instead made "pokemon type weakness" gimick. While Metaknight struggles against a good Ike player, Pit's main options when fighting meta knight are his arrows which do not work against meta's cheap tornado, or his fsmash while the rest of his moves are out prioritized.....
 

Patsie

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Pit haters these days...
Sure he's a great character. I main him after all. But every character has a weakness.
Pit is somewhat light, the heaviest of the lightweights.
His arrows are spammable, but dont do much damage, unless you charge them.
His melee attacks dont have as much range as other sword characters, though he is capable of attacking somewhat fast.
Mirror shield is only effective against stuff that are in front of Pit, not behind.
His unique Up+B cant be used again if Pit gets hit (And Flinched so Fox's Blaster dont count) while doing it unless he lands again. Bowser's Fire breath works well in the situation.

In the hands of a pro, he's a dangerous adversary. I dont consider myself a pro-pro but pro enough to use many of his special techniques. I consider myself Moderate-High as a Pit player.

Back to topic, Pit does have some killing moves (B-air, FSmash, F-air, glide attack) and B-air's sweetspot is the strongest of them all.

I'm guessing some ppl think he's overpowered is because of one of the following things:
1: That player continuously gets owned by Pit
2: He's used very often
3: The fact that he has 2 reflectors, a projectile, the ability to glide, and a great recovery.
4: Just jealous of Pit

I do also notice that Pit isnt completely that good in a FFA match, though he dominates well in 1v1 matches.

To end this thing... Pit is NOT Overpowered!
That's a fair and reasoned response, and one of the first ones I've seen in the thread.

But please, PLEASE STOP SAYING PIT IS A LIGHTWEIGHT. EXACTLY MIDDLEWEIGHT =/= LIGHTWEIGHT.

The reason people call Pit overpowered is because he literally outmatches almost all of the characters in the game. So far, people have only said "WUT ABOUT METANIGHT LOLZ!!" Congratuf*ckinlations, Pit has ONE counter in MK. Overpowered doesn't mean he beats all characters, it means that he outmatches the majority of them.

But at the very least, you admit he's a good character, if not one of the best. He's beatable, but his moveset is so stacked that it's difficult to do.

I just got very pissed off when someone has the utter audacity to call Pit underpowered.
 

Emblem Lord

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Pit is at disadvantage vs pretty much all the shoe-ins for top tier.

He is good, but not overpowered.
 

Admiral Pit

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I, myself never fought a MK with Pit yet so idk how good he is against him. While MK slightly has more melee range, Pit still has some tricks he can use against him.
As for this overpowered talk, Many Pit players I faced are weak against my Bowser and his Power.
 

dawgbowl

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As mentioned by some, he is Good and by no means a bad character or unworthy of maining.

However, everyone who originally thought he was "top tier" should know by now that he is not. I've been playing online alot and every day my Pit seems to get stomped worse and worse to the point where I may be changing my main. (I love his playstyle but I went from doing really well to getting manhandled by random characters (still no trouble against the space furries however))

People are catching on to his tactics, seeing as how everything prior was speculation. Now everyone knows pit, they know his priority, speed, ect, so the surprise factor is gone.
 

rageagainst

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That's a fair and reasoned response, and one of the first ones I've seen in the thread.

But please, PLEASE STOP SAYING PIT IS A LIGHTWEIGHT. EXACTLY MIDDLEWEIGHT =/= LIGHTWEIGHT.

The reason people call Pit overpowered is because he literally outmatches almost all of the characters in the game. So far, people have only said "WUT ABOUT METANIGHT LOLZ!!" Congratuf*ckinlations, Pit has ONE counter in MK. Overpowered doesn't mean he beats all characters, it means that he outmatches the majority of them.

But at the very least, you admit he's a good character, if not one of the best. He's beatable, but his moveset is so stacked that it's difficult to do.

I just got very pissed off when someone has the utter audacity to call Pit underpowered.
agree completely, stop saying pit has weaknesses like everyother char and he has a -few- bad matchups, sure he has weaknesses but they are insignificant when comparing them to his godly advantages.

I get pissed who has the utter audacity to call pit not overpowered.
 

ChokE

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I thought we were through this. Pit is not overpowered or underpowered, he is just a very useable character. Sure he is fast, but there are also other characters that are faster than him. Pit has a very good recovery, but there are other characters with better recovery. Pit bair is harder to land compare to his other aerials, dair only kill very well above ground and very slow, the f- smash only kill at 100% with very light characters, and all you need to do to avoid an arrow is just dodge or shield like any other projectiles ( it get annoying, but you get better at dodge them overtime).
Pit is awesome character to use no doubt, but like any other character there are drawbacks.
 

rageagainst

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I thought we were through this. Pit is not overpowered or underpowered, he is just a very useable character. Sure he is fast, but there are also other characters that are faster than him. Pit has a very good recovery, but there are other characters with better recovery. Pit bair is harder to land compare to his other aerials, dair only kill very well above ground and very slow, the f- smash only kill at 100% with very light characters, and all you need to do to avoid an arrow is just dodge or shield like any other projectiles ( it get annoying, but you get better at dodge them overtime).
Pit is awesome character to use no doubt, but like any other character there are drawbacks.
camping sir, the arrows alone make him godlike, and yes you cooould just air dodge them but they really hinder approaches and make it MUCH easier for him to camp (you cant just run in and do attacks and mash him when you get close, true, bad campers are HORRIBLE when you get close, good campers on the other hand are unstoppable)
 

Wyvern

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I used to think Pit was really overpowered when I first started playing, but it's really not so bad. Once I learned that I could approach through the storm of arrows with advancing powershields (way easier than it sounds) and realized how lackluster his melee range is (for a sword user, anyway), he became a lot more manageable.

I mean, he's definitely good. Probably well above-average, even. The arrows are really useful for a lot of stuff, and his speed-to-power ratio is better than it probably should be. But I wouldn't call him broken.
 

ChokE

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camping sir, the arrows alone make him godlike, and yes you cooould just air dodge them but they really hinder approaches and make it MUCH easier for him to camp (you cant just run in and do attacks and mash him when you get close, true, bad campers are HORRIBLE when you get close, good campers on the other hand are unstoppable)
all my friends who i play pit against have done very well avoiding arrows now, and know many ways to punish a pit for overusing them.
 

Ceph

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His aerials aren't really that ranged (ie his uair, nair, and I think his sweetspot bair), but I think their priority is what makes them hard to deal with. Plus the multihits just add to their awesomeness. I main him, he's good, I hate playing as high/top tier chars, but he's just really fun to play. If you want broken, the obvious answer is MK. Pit's not getting banned at any tourneys...soon, anyways lol
 

Undrdog

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Yeah he's barely hanging on to High Tier. The day Pit is seriously considered broken, we all deserve a huge pat on the back. lol
 

Kyuubi9t

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Holy thread resurrection!!


Well i think pit has more potential almost all other characters, he is just extremely difficult to master. Contrary to common believe, he is NOT pick up and play. Its quite sad watching someone be beaten helplessly by me or whoever because its their first time using Pit and they cant do ANYTHING right!
 

Admiral Pit

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You and I think alike. However, I do help some Pits out. That's perhaps one of the reasons why I am popular among many Pit players, that and my one-of-a-kind style.
 
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