Ike or ROY AND Marth?

[Cless]

Because you don't just replace people that represent the series. Marth does that.

 

[Dark Sonic]

Marth will likely be nerfed from his Melee self if he does return though, knockback reduced on tippers and what not.

By tippers you mean his F-smash and Dair right? Everything else was fine knockback-wise. Then just reduce the stun on his fair and utilt and change some lags here an there (make his u-tilt and d-tilt have more lag, ect.) and he'll be fine. Won't be broken, but he'll still be good.

 

[/~Dogma~\]

if u make him like that he loses what was good about him

 

[Cless]

Yeah, you don't balance characters by making them suck. Look at Kirby. It's evident that they don't know how to really balance characters, as is evident with Peach, so let's just see how it turns out.

 

[UltimatX]

Ike AND Marth. I never like Roy to begin with.

 

[Gundo]

Yeah, you don't balance characters by making them suck. Look at Kirby. It's evident that they don't know how to really balance characters, as is evident with Peach, so let's just see how it turns out.

its not that certain characters suck or not, it's more of a... how well can they be used by a noob. As for the topic, I don't think I should make a decision, since I never played with Ike, so I don't really know him.

 

[Cless]

its not that certain characters suck or not, it's more of a... how well can they be used by a noob. As for the topic, I don't think I should make a decision, since I never played with Ike, so I don't really know him.

That's not true at all. Fox and Falco take lots of practice to use correctly. Would you consider them newb friendly? They're plenty ridiculous.

 

[/~Dogma~\]

idk why im asking this but gundo ur gona use MK( i mean i could be wrong im just assuming things) ur PM got me thinking bout 2 on 2's want to try it one day?

if so give me ur Wii friend code and add me of the characters i no of so far ike and MK would be the team i want

sry i no off topic

 

[Cless]

You realize that the Wii friend code has nothing to do with the Brawl fc right?

 

[/~Dogma~\]

yeah its just for future reference for when brawl comes out we can hop to it

 

[The_Corax_King]

aaaanyway....


Brawl's mechanics/physics will be different...


So I really doubt Marth will remain the same...

 

[The Attorney]

The opinion of this attorney is that as long as Ike is in Brawl, I don't care whether Marth makes it in. Roy... well, I never played as Roy. I'm sure Roy is out anyways. but Ike is in anyways so I will welcome Marth... but I don't know whether he shall ever grace my screen, except to be pummeled by me.

 

[The_Corax_King]

The opinion of this attorney is that as long as Ike is in Brawl, I don't care whether Marth makes it in. Roy... well, I never played as Roy. I'm sure Roy is out anyways. but Ike is in anyways so I will welcome Marth... but I don't know whether he shall ever grace my screen, except to be pummeled by me.

Unless Marth is a lot better than Ike... which he probably will be

 

[Iceman12]

By tippers you mean his F-smash and Dair right? Everything else was fine knockback-wise. Then just reduce the stun on his fair and utilt and change some lags here an there (make his u-tilt and d-tilt have more lag, ect.) and he'll be fine. Won't be broken, but he'll still be good.

Yea, thats what I had in mind. I do want Marth back though, he's a great character and my best in Melee. I lol'd when I was playing my buddy earlier today, I wavedashed onto the edge while he was recovering, and he called me cheap(lolz). I say that Im just playing to win ^_^ and had him go read Sirlin's articles ;p.

 

[Cless]

Man, I read that whole thing. That was a good read.

 

[Iceman12]

It really was, anyways on topic, Ike, Marth, and Sigurd or Ephraim(sp?) for a diversity.

 

[Cless]

Apparently, Ike is modeled somewhat after Sigurd's stats. I dunno. Ephraim would be nice if Japan didn't hate FE8 so much. Sakurai pretty much limited himself to either Micaiah or Ephraim though, so we'll see what happens. Maybe some more FE clones.

 

[The_Corax_King]

Ephraim is a lame character anyway... (not like Eirika though lol)...

Not just Japan hated FE8... it was just mediocre in terms of storyline, characters, and difficulty... and that is an opinion held by many many FE fans...



I can actually see Ephraim and Eirika as assists though...


Also, I don't see why people seem to say stats play a role in brawl inclusion... Ike isn't a general in PoR... yet they made him slow and powerful like one in brawl... (I say PoR because he is more tank-like in RD, and he looks more like his PoR self)...

 

[Cless]

He is his PoR self. I was just saying the Sigurd thing because someone made a post about it. That's why I said apparently.

 

[The_Corax_King]

I wasn't arguing with you or anything...


I've just heard people say things about why characters should be just because of how they play in FE...

 

[Cless]

Well, if Ike was his PoR self, there'd be no room for Marth if they wanted to make them different. Marth is the epitome of weak and fast.

 

[The_Corax_King]

Too bad he wasn't weak in Melee lol....


And PoR Ike and Marth are still very different...


They can get creative with movesets even if they were the same...

 

[Cless]

Yeah, but it'd be like fast swordsman and fast swordsman with different b moves. Most people would see them as the same. Hell, they see them as the same now.

 

[The_Corax_King]

lol... it's cause noobs don't like the idea of having two blue haired FE reps in brawl
(I want 3 )

OMG WE LEIK CANT TELL THEM APART!!!11!1

 

[Cless]

Yeah, any male lord worth their salt has blue hair. Anyone who doesn't has to work that much harder.

 

[The_Corax_King]

Well Eliwood was OK... and Roy was meh...

So I suppose you're right...

Since Ephraim had greenish bluish hair he doesnt really count XP

 

[Rakath]

Cless, I wasn't trying to say Ike was modeled on Sigurd's stats, its that Sigurd's stats fit the best (slow to move, good resolve taking hits, causing the world to break with the swing of his sword). My theory is that Ike's popularity might of bought him Sigurd's assumed spot in the roster.

Which for all we know might save Roy, maybe... Anyone else in shouldn't be a swordsman.

 

[RegalBuster]

I'm just glad that Ike looks like the PoR version, not RD so Macaiah can still get in as playable.

 

[Cless]

I don't see what that has to do with anything. They could just choose to make someone from each universe playable.

 

[Mounshadowz]

Well, if Ike was his PoR self, there'd be no room for Marth if they wanted to make them different. Marth is the epitome of weak and fast.

Any one who says Marth is weak does not know how to tilt or use his tipper. I hope he comes back but if marth or a character similar to marth isn't in Brawl I'm going to have to main sonic.

 

[Cless]

I was talking about FE firstly. Secondly, the tipper is an exception. That is a sweet spot for a fighting game.

 

[geemann2236]

I never much liked Roy, as he was a very poor character. I'd be very happy to see Marth return to the game, as he is currently mained by very much of the smash community. Ike isn't very good, but he's a cool character with big moves. He'd be a fun low tier character.

 

[lumberheartwood]

I never much liked Roy, as he was a very poor character. I'd be very happy to see Marth return to the game, as he is currently mained by very much of the smash community. Ike isn't very good, but he's a cool character with big moves. He'd be a fun low tier character.

I disagree. Ike has potential to be worthy if used correctly. Ike has two recovery moves, a fast dash attack, a powerful ranged special attack in Eruption, and his FS is pretty decent. Plus, his hair isn't blue in my opinion. Its really indigo or a violet-like shade.

 

[Gundo]

That's not true at all. Fox and Falco take lots of practice to use correctly. Would you consider them newb friendly? They're plenty ridiculous.

I would concider Falco noob-friendly. Fox might be the only one that actually needs practice. Falco is much easier to control then fox.

 

[Cless]

Control? Yes. Do good stuff with? I dunno about that. Just because a character is high on the tier list doesn't mean that they are instantly noob-friendly.

 

[Gundo]

Control? Yes. Do good stuff with? I dunno about that. Just because a character is high on the tier list doesn't mean that they are instantly noob-friendly.

I concider them easier to control has cheap easy moves then most characters. with the exception of Fox. a noob with shiek, marth or falco can easily and usually beat a noob with pichu, G&W or Kirby.

 

[Cless]

Well, that's low level play. That doesn't really count for much. Besides, I remember when everyone thought Marth sucked and Roy was the ****.

 

[Reno-Vgas]

yeah I'd rather have Ike and marth because roy sucks.

 

[/~Dogma~\]

ike and marth, id have a tough pick for my main but i would cream my pants though

 

[The_Corax_King]

ike and marth, id have a tough pick for my main but i would cream my pants though

thanks for that...


but what if you had THREE fire emblem reps?