I miss Toonami...

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Way back when I was young, I would come home from school and rush to the TV so I could watch Toonami. I miss all of those shows. I mean, I grew up watching Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball, and Tenchi Muyo. Where did all of those good shows go? Toonami used to change a lot, but the theme was always the same: action cartoons. Nowadays with what I see on Cartoon Network (when I dare to flip to that channel), I feel like my brain cells are dying as I see shows like The Misadventures of Flapjack. I mean, seriously! If they are subjecting little kids to this kind of garbage, it's no wonder why all these scientists are saying that human IQs are dropping! No offense to those who like what's on Cartoon Network these days. This is just how I feel.

 

[gcubedude]

Yeah, I know what you mean. Now good shows either go on Adult Swim, or get put on other channels. If Toonami was still on Cartoon Network, I would actually turn on the TV on Saturdays to watch some of the shows.

What makes me really sad is that Naruto Shippuden got stuck on frigging Disney XD, where it got horribly censored.

 

[altairian]

Oh wow, CN doesn't even have Naruto anymore? (not that i'm a big naruto fan...but it is popular) **** they're just axing anime completely aren't they =\

I didn't see the super old school toonami with sailor moon and such, but I used to be all about Rurouni Kenshin and Yu Yu Hakusho on toonami, among others. It's too bad that dubs just never seem to fit quite right, even if you haven't seen a show in japanese, watching it dubbed something just seems off. Here's hoping one day funimation and their counterparts put enough money in to hiring voice actors and translators/script writers that they can correct that problem and some of the truly great anime can be more widely appreciated.

(on a side note, I'm slowly drudging through Bakugan dubs right now because I'm too lazy to find a sub and...wow is this dub bad. Luckily it's intended for an audience too young to care...but wow)

 

[AlexoftheAura]

Just out of curiosity, is Disney XD's dub of Naruto any worse than Cartoon Network's, I'm afraid to watch.

 

[:mad:]

You act as if kids today are suffering, saying they're being subjected to this kind of brutal torture. It's a childrens cartoon show. Are you really trying to link cartoons today with brain cell loss? Because if anything, shows a few years back weren't as "wholesome", if you will. They had crude humour and violence. At least there's somewhat of a lesson in every show now, the children today still enjoy them.

I'm pretty sure that the shows are just fine, you grew up.

 

[SharkAttack]

I know exactly what you mean. Back in the summer of 1999 I'd always watch the Midnight Run of Toonami. I'd watch Gundam Wing at midnight and then DBZ at 12:30. All the episodes were new to me that summer and I was always curious what was going to happen in the Saiyin Saga and Eventually the Namekian Saga. It's always the best watching something for the very first time. After the Midnight Run I'd go play two games of Madden 99 on franchise mode with the Lions (When they had Barry Sanders and were good). Went 13-3 and won the Superbowl. Good times, good times.

Toonami and Madden. Can't beat it.

 

[Teran]

Crude humour and violence in kids' shows are great.

 

[:mad:]

Crude humour and violence in kids' shows are great.

Which is exactly why people enjoyed Tom and Jerry, Animaniacs, and Looney Tunes.

 

[Keyo~Zakuya]

Crude humour and violence in kids' shows are great.

Looney tunes and Tom and Jerry were full of voilence and crude humor but they both were the best cartoons in the world!

 

[Lore]

Just out of curiosity, is Disney XD's dub of Naruto any worse than Cartoon Network's, I'm afraid to watch.

Its decent. If you can watch the subs watch them instead, but if you have nothing else, then Disney's is good enough to watch occasionally.

Or better, read the manga. Waaaaaaaay better than the anime. ^_^

 

[Yink]

Crude humour and violence in kids' shows are great.

Dragonball Z anyone?

Toonami introduced me to that. I started watching it around the Cell Saga.

 

[Keyo~Zakuya]

DBZ = Best anime ever.

 

[Romulox2010]

Pretty much the only thing left to watch on cartoon network is tom & jerry IMO
You just can't beat senseless violence from 40 years ago.

 

[Matador]

I bet I can make you shed a few tears with this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYUM7h4SVsA

The nostalgia hit me like a freight train...

 

[highfive]

I miss Toonami. I miss cartoons that reeked references of sex, alcohol, smoking and dirty jokes. I miss animals getting hit in the face with a frying pan. I miss cartoons that made you want to get up early on Saturday mornings.

I want to go home.

*hides in cardboard box and cries*

 

[CRASHiC]

Its decent. If you can watch the subs watch them instead, but if you have nothing else, then Disney's is good enough to watch occasionally.

Or better, read the manga. Waaaaaaaay better than the anime. ^_^

And this is why CN is having to change. CN use to provide all kinds of animation, but now we get our sources for this kind of stuff from the internet, and most fans prefer it that way. CN changing is the key sign of the change that internet has brought the economic field. You can no longer specialize the way you could before, because most specialized are best fulfilled by the internet. I want to find a Bruce Haack vinyl, I've been trying to find it the old classic way, digging through all the crates in my local record shops basement, and believe me, its a huge basement, but I could just go to google and find it in a minute. Here, let me see if I can do that.

http://www.forcedexposure.com/bin/search.pl?search_string=QDK+032LP&searchfield=exkeyword

in less than a minute. This is why record stores now carry movies and games, because they have too in order to compete. They are taking the 'one stop shop' route as the internet continues to fullfill people's more specialized needs. This is why Cartoon Network shows reality TV now. This is why Adult Swim only shows super main stream anime. This is why I now find more DVDs at FYE than CDs.

 

[finalark]

I bet I can make you shed a few tears with this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYUM7h4SVsA

The nostalgia hit me like a freight train...

NOSTALGIC OVERLOAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But seriously, I have no idea what the cartoons and kids' show are like these days. I don't know if they're actually better than what I grew up with. Either way, your perspective on something will change depending on what generation you grew up in.

 

[CRASHiC]

the baby shows today are da bomb omg :3

 

[2001]

I bet I can make you shed a few tears with this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYUM7h4SVsA

The nostalgia hit me like a freight train...

WTF!!!!!!!!!!! I remember seeing that video back in the day and believe or not I remembered it's music its scenes and the artwork of the toonami host but I could never find it for a good 6 years. I also recently rediscovered the name of that show in the video a few months ago.

Outlaw Star

I would say that's tied for the best anime of all time with DBZ. I'm done with my cartoon watching days but if they ever put that show back on TV, I will tune in simply for the memories.

I miss toonami AND the 90's nickelodean.

 

[UltiMario]

I want my Toonami baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!

*cries*

 

[altairian]

This is why Adult Swim only shows super main stream anime.

...what anime does adult swim show now? cause Naruto is like the most popular anime in the entire world atm, and clearly they aren't showing that
Speaking of anime on adult swim...I was watching Bleach on adult swim one time a while back, and I witnessed the most amazing moment in awful dubbing I've ever seen. In a single sentence, a voice actor prounounced the same name THREE different ways. THREE.

That was the last time I watched anime on adult swim. I love anime to death, and bad dubs are ruining it for everyone. Even the old dubs with their terrible translations and censorship do not compare to that level of fail.

 

[Teran]

Which is exactly why people enjoyed Tom and Jerry, Animaniacs, and Looney Tunes.

Yeah, but their humour was far more ingenious than nowadays' stuff.

I never did enjoy kids' shows that tried to convey some kind of message, or was about loving and caring.

I liked classic cartoons, because they didn't have an agenda.

 

[Today]

Old Toonami and Old Adult Swim were the best!

 

[Nova9000]

I bet I can make you shed a few tears with this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYUM7h4SVsA

The nostalgia hit me like a freight train...

Wow...

I actually still have this and other Toonami instrumentals...

This and Walking Stick were my faves.

 

[Lovely]

Just out of curiosity, is Disney XD's dub of Naruto any worse than Cartoon Network's, I'm afraid to watch.

That would depend, is it the edited version, (which means due to that being on that channel, they have to dumb down the swearing or violence), Viz always have a way to have an Un-edited, (or Un-cut as many people say it), version on some channels that's allowed to have swearing and violence, or having it on DVD, sometimes with original voice actors from Japan with subtitles for those too addicted to Japanese voice actors. They did the same with DBZ.

 

[CRASHiC]

Yeah, but their humour was far more ingenious than nowadays' stuff.

I never did enjoy kids' shows that tried to convey some kind of message, or was about loving and caring.

I liked classic cartoons, because they didn't have an agenda.

Then boy, you would live Flapjack, becuase its goes so far to almost be a satire on those kinds of cartoons. It goes out of its way to reward the charecters for their bad traits. Hell, the main 2 charecters are bums and only think about suger sweets, and there are all kinds of alcholoic jokes in there.

"But bubby! Peek holes can't be friends!"
"There are all kinds of friends me boy" *pulls out a can of maple syrup. Drinks. Shivers, places back in coat and pats it slowly as he says* "All kinds of friends."

 

[Pi]

I also miss toonami.
zoids...yu yu...dbz...outlaw star...
sigh...
and now adult swim has turned away from anime
the *******s.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Animaniacs is one of the, if not the best cartoon made in America. A show that appealed to vast amounts of audiences is a great show.

Crashic has the CN and Anime problems down.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Flapjack is cool, yea.


Would Toonami still be so special if it was still on air? :o

 

[UltiMario]

Flapjack is cool, yea.


Would Toonami still be so special if it was still on air? :o

Yes, it would be the last thing CN would have been doing right by letting it air.

 

[gcubedude]

Flapjack is cool, yea.


Would Toonami still be so special if it was still on air? :o

I would certainly watch Cartoon Network more if Toonami came back. Right now, I only flip to that channel for the occasional Pokemon episode or movie, like the Arceus movie they just showed. I would love it if Toonami came back, and they started showing correctly dubbed Naruto Shippuden, not the stupid Disney XD stuff.

 

[MarioMariox2]

Disney XD dubs... are they better than 4kids?

 

[SharkAttack]

Flapjack is cool, yea.


Would Toonami still be so special if it was still on air? :o

That's a good question. I think it would as long as new, good animes came on. There definately would be those fans of DBZ for example who would watch every episode over and over again but there would also be viewers who would get tired of watching the same old episodes. Like I mentioned in my first post in this thread the first time a person watches something on t.v. it's usually the best because that person has no idea what is going to happen and as a result are glued to the television.

 

[Raider 88]

I bet I can make you shed a few tears with this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYUM7h4SVsA

The nostalgia hit me like a freight train...

Oh God YES! I remember this in it's entirety. Wow, I wish good old Toonami was back.

I still have the VHS tapes from me taping every Outlaw Star episode in order. Also have the DVD's ripped to my computer. Such a good show.

 

[SharkAttack]

I bet I can make you shed a few tears with this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYUM7h4SVsA

The nostalgia hit me like a freight train...

I used to hate this commercial soo much when it came on. It wasn't the commercial itself that I hated but what I didn't like was that it was so long. Normally I would sit through 3-5 regular commercials and after enduring those I'd anticipate DBZ coming back on. Instead this one would air and then there would be another 2-3 minute wait added to the commercial break. It wasn't a bad commerical at all because it had an awsome message about growing up. I just wished it was shown first in the commerical break segment instead of near the end.

 

[Lucian]

The best times in my life

Toonami was the best thing ever, for anime lover you couldn't do better. It had the best action anime in the world. Watching Toonami were the best times in my life, coming home for school I look forword to thothing more to just set there and watch that beautiful poetry in moton.

 

[gcubedude]

Disney XD dubs... are they better than 4kids?

I don't know much about bad 4kids dubbing, but here's an example of an XD dub that I heard from a few people:
in the first episode, Konohamaru does Sexy Jutsu, and although clouds cover him/her up, you can still see some parts. In the XD version, not only are there enough clouds to cover everything but his head, but it's called the "Cutie Pie Jutsu."

Really, though, the big thing that bugs me about Disney XD getting Shippuden is that I can't even watch it because I don't get XD. That's why I think they really should bring Toonami back and start showing good English dubs of my favorite animes. I've had such good times with it, and I miss it so much.

 

[altairian]

Good English dub? Where? I have yet to see one, and I've seen at least parts of the majority of the anime CN has aired. And I'm not being a crazy elitist otaku, they just continue to hire low budget voice actors and do basically no quality checking. If a fansub group were to do the quality of work that these companies that license anime do, they would be run out of the community.

Actually...I take that back, slightly. The Cowboy Bebop dub is actually pretty decent. I haven't really compared translations because I'm not a huge fan of the show, but at least the voices all fit the characters and the actors actually like...acted. That's the only show I can think of that I can give any praise at all to the dub.

 

[Espy Rose]

Animaniacs is one of the, if not the best cartoon made in America. A show that appealed to vast amounts of audiences is a great show.

One of the best? Yes.

But Batman TAS is Number 1. No question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-u07UEDT5I

 

[rhan]

Who doesn't?

I miss old cartoons and shows in general. All these new ******* cartoons make me appreciate the good ol' days.