MarsFool!
Smash Lord
It is clear to me that your meme is lame. Ganon...sucks >_>
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I have declined joining the Ganon is the best character in melee social group 3 times
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XIF
Smash Master
lets not get ahead of ourselves.
Ganon has far and away the best forward aerial in the game. Better than knee, better than sheik slap. No contest.
Fox is still the best.
I hate you all.
Except Chris.
come up to tech on thursday chris.
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
You are in denial.
thegreatkazoo
Smash Master
BBQ°
Smash Champion
lol you guys are hilarious <3
lol ok Xif....
why is Chaddd the best player is GA?
*throws dart*
why is Chaddd the best player is GA?
*throws dart*
BBQ°
Smash Champion
lol Mike G.
Ok, this has been one of my greatest finds in the research of Ganondorf. I'm pretty sure I was the first to discover this. I have it posted in the Ganon Club so many of you may have already seen it.
Dreamland 64 is one of Ganondorf's best stages (as stated by smashwiki). And with good reason. Many people do not know about "the face" on dreamland. I was most likely the first to discover it. Directly above the uppermost platform on dreamland, there is a face. People usually do not notice this because this face is actually Ganon, and he does not want you to know he is there. The face is beast-form Ganon. This is Ganondorf when he is in his beast form. You may recognize what I mean if you have played any of the Legend of Zelda games.
It is said that if The Face of Ganon looks at you first, you lose the match no matter what. If M2K is ****** you on dreamland, then all of a sudden you notice you won the match, it's because the face of Ganon spotted out M2K before he spotted you.
Ganondorf is so good on this level because The Face of Ganon empowers him. He is nearly twice as broken on this level because of it.
Here is proof that The Face of Ganon exists. You can even check on your own copy of Melee if you have any doubts
as you can see, the face has a nearly identical face to the CGi Ganon. The Face has the smile and everything. Ganon's face (the one on the very right) matches quite well if he was smiling.
Here is a video of Rockcrock vs Green Mario. At around 3 minutes, the face of Ganon finally decides to spot out Green Mario. The Face forces Green Mario to suicide, and then everything goes downhill from that point. The Face also empowers Rockcrock and leads him to victory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVq3jbvOBU#t=2m55s
Ok, this has been one of my greatest finds in the research of Ganondorf. I'm pretty sure I was the first to discover this. I have it posted in the Ganon Club so many of you may have already seen it.
Dreamland 64 is one of Ganondorf's best stages (as stated by smashwiki). And with good reason. Many people do not know about "the face" on dreamland. I was most likely the first to discover it. Directly above the uppermost platform on dreamland, there is a face. People usually do not notice this because this face is actually Ganon, and he does not want you to know he is there. The face is beast-form Ganon. This is Ganondorf when he is in his beast form. You may recognize what I mean if you have played any of the Legend of Zelda games.
It is said that if The Face of Ganon looks at you first, you lose the match no matter what. If M2K is ****** you on dreamland, then all of a sudden you notice you won the match, it's because the face of Ganon spotted out M2K before he spotted you.
Ganondorf is so good on this level because The Face of Ganon empowers him. He is nearly twice as broken on this level because of it.
Here is proof that The Face of Ganon exists. You can even check on your own copy of Melee if you have any doubts
as you can see, the face has a nearly identical face to the CGi Ganon. The Face has the smile and everything. Ganon's face (the one on the very right) matches quite well if he was smiling.
Here is a video of Rockcrock vs Green Mario. At around 3 minutes, the face of Ganon finally decides to spot out Green Mario. The Face forces Green Mario to suicide, and then everything goes downhill from that point. The Face also empowers Rockcrock and leads him to victory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVq3jbvOBU#t=2m55s
BBQ°
Smash Champion
Yeah, your mind was blown right? I know the feeling.
chaddd
Smash Lord
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You should know that psychologically it's human nature to find facial patterns in random designs.
Trust me, I've grown very tired of this.
It all started because I started using Ganondorf and Lounis/BBQ would just lose to me every game, and die at low percents because of their horrible DI.
Now, no matter what character I use, they just blame my victory on the "broken" character I'm playing.
How sad.
BBQ°
Smash Champion
lol ok, because you know, we have also made "Fox, Falcon, and all the other characters that Rayku uses is the best character in the game", right? I hardly think that ANY character in the game is broken or unbeatable >.>. It's just more fun to joke about Ganondorf because he is, well... Ganondorf.
You're right that all of this started because of your Ganondorf, but we wouldn't have taken it so far if coincidental things about Ganondorf kept happening. It just made it more fun for us, especially since it -almost- makes sense.
I could come up with something silly to argue with you, but I won't.
BBQ°
Smash Champion
lol yeah, I remember at Tipped Off 5, I showed you the face, and then you realized there was a totem poll as well.
GA Peach
Smash Lord
while not the best in the game, i DEFINITELY don't think Ganon outright sucks.
What the **** are you smoking? Lounis admits to this -every day- and you agree with him!
This all started with Lounis *****ing because he realized that no one gives me credit for being a good player, and based that joke off of Ganondorf's prowess. Then you thought it was hilarious how he thought a ****ty character was broken, so you created a troll-meme off of it and won't give it up.
*sigh*
another thread that had so much more potential.
*goes back to GunZ*
another thread that had so much more potential.
*goes back to GunZ*
NC-Echo
Smash Lord
I don't understand how this thread came to this. I thought this was all pretty funny... now not so much.
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
Ganondorf irrefutable facts:
-He defeated the best player in the world twice
-He has chaingrabs on spacies and Sheik
-The triforce of power is in his possession
-His cape looks like a cheap rug
-He has been laughing at Link's feeble attempts to put an end to his massive reign of terror since 1986.
-His taunt is godly
-Ganon always sides with the South
-He defeated the best player in the world twice
-He has chaingrabs on spacies and Sheik
-The triforce of power is in his possession
-His cape looks like a cheap rug
-He has been laughing at Link's feeble attempts to put an end to his massive reign of terror since 1986.
-His taunt is godly
-Ganon always sides with the South
Anomic_Punk
Smash Champion
This.
I've heard Chaddd call ganon's f-air the "Skull Crusher" since I met him in '06.
That aside... ganon does not amuse me. :embarrass
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
Ganon is amused by FullMetal.
BBQ°
Smash Champion
It's supposed to be funny but some people take things too seriously or like to spoil other people's fun.
lol
btw... does anyone know who Ganon Dorf on facebook is? Rayku and I think it's someone from North Carolina, but we don't know for sure.
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
BBQ°
Smash Champion
Wait, you would fair me? So that means you're THE Ganon?!
Lol, just kidding. But I've pretty much narrowed it down to two people
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
LOL. The Dark Lord wishes that it remain a mystery.
LOL ACE is too good
i'm pretty sure skull crusher has belonged to dk's fair since 1999
#HBC | Dancer
The nicest of the damned.
I was just wondering why Ganondorf is in the very middle of the tiers. Before I get into what I mean, allow me to first put out there that I have been playing for years, and I have watched MANY videos of the tournament masters.
My brother and I found out, through years of play, literally EVERY advanced technique in the game, except the wavedash, which we stumbled upon, but wrote off as simply hilarious. I was surprised to find that all the wacky observations we have encountered and adapted are actually defined in the glossary in the sticky topic above! Three of the particularly surprising terms that I could not believe had been widely known and utilized were the Phantom Hit (I just thought I had a glitchy game) and that effect where recovering at the right time from attacks that sent you flying results in an upward boost if you jump out/air dodge/whatever early enough (I cannot remember what it was called in the sticky), and the waveland.
Now, I have been using Ganondorf against my brother lately, and he cannot seem to beat me. We think we know why, and we think it puts Ganon at the top of the tiers. I will be brief. Ganondorf has his air forward. We call it 'The Punch.' It has that special hitbox like a sword, hence it goes right through anything except an attack with that same type of hitbox. It does 17% max, is relatively fast executing, has basically instant recovery on a barrier cancel, and is quite massive, killing at rather low percentages.
If he misses, he can just do his A punch if the opponent tries to retaliate, or shield/roll. I am telling you, Ganondorf is a crazy meat mountain who crushes bones with many attacks doing 15+%, survives to insane damages thanks to his weight, and has ridiculous horizontal recovery (Double Jump, Ganondorf Kick Down B, ANOTHER Double Jump, ARE YOU SERIOUS, Up B).
Next, check his roll. It goes like half screen. It makes him rather fast, nearly eliminating his speed problem on the ground, and a great character when it comes to the defensive game. It pretty much eliminates the need for his wavedash, which, with Ganondorf, who needs to do most of his attacking from hops, is pretty much useless already unless you are looking to smash attack. Wavesmashing, however, in my opinion, is also a bad idea, because, in the time and damage it takes you to actually land a smash, you could have just used The Punch and killed you opponent by then.
Even though he has to fight mostly in the air, 3 of his 4 air attacks are pretty fast, and are quite massive. A major advantage he has is that nearly all his attacks move the opponent considerably, and can topple him from 0%, so his opponent gets little to no counterattack opportunity.
The only explanation I can find for why he is low on the tiers is that no one has used him seriously. I think he really keeps up, if not tops, the top tier characters.
I really do not like to simply shoot my mouth, and I am not one who thinks it right to shower a character in encomium, and never actually prove anything. Is there online for this somewhere, or is that simply wishful thinking? If not, please do not yell at me and stuff until you at least check out The Punch. Goes right through projectiles, goes right through attacks, goes right through faces. Please just give Ganondorf another shot and tell me what you thnk.
Final Comment: People have a tendency to think that posts from newcomers to a board but veterans of its respective game are saying they are better than everyone else, regardles of what the post actually says. Please note that I did not say 'I am better than you' or 'Ganon is better than Fox.' I said, essentially: 'Ganon seems to be great. These are his strengths. He may top Fox. Check him out and see if you agree.' I will say, however, that I am a full master of Ganondorf.
Please give Ganondorf a second look before responding so you know where I am coming
from!
My brother and I found out, through years of play, literally EVERY advanced technique in the game, except the wavedash, which we stumbled upon, but wrote off as simply hilarious. I was surprised to find that all the wacky observations we have encountered and adapted are actually defined in the glossary in the sticky topic above! Three of the particularly surprising terms that I could not believe had been widely known and utilized were the Phantom Hit (I just thought I had a glitchy game) and that effect where recovering at the right time from attacks that sent you flying results in an upward boost if you jump out/air dodge/whatever early enough (I cannot remember what it was called in the sticky), and the waveland.
Now, I have been using Ganondorf against my brother lately, and he cannot seem to beat me. We think we know why, and we think it puts Ganon at the top of the tiers. I will be brief. Ganondorf has his air forward. We call it 'The Punch.' It has that special hitbox like a sword, hence it goes right through anything except an attack with that same type of hitbox. It does 17% max, is relatively fast executing, has basically instant recovery on a barrier cancel, and is quite massive, killing at rather low percentages.
If he misses, he can just do his A punch if the opponent tries to retaliate, or shield/roll. I am telling you, Ganondorf is a crazy meat mountain who crushes bones with many attacks doing 15+%, survives to insane damages thanks to his weight, and has ridiculous horizontal recovery (Double Jump, Ganondorf Kick Down B, ANOTHER Double Jump, ARE YOU SERIOUS, Up B).
Next, check his roll. It goes like half screen. It makes him rather fast, nearly eliminating his speed problem on the ground, and a great character when it comes to the defensive game. It pretty much eliminates the need for his wavedash, which, with Ganondorf, who needs to do most of his attacking from hops, is pretty much useless already unless you are looking to smash attack. Wavesmashing, however, in my opinion, is also a bad idea, because, in the time and damage it takes you to actually land a smash, you could have just used The Punch and killed you opponent by then.
Even though he has to fight mostly in the air, 3 of his 4 air attacks are pretty fast, and are quite massive. A major advantage he has is that nearly all his attacks move the opponent considerably, and can topple him from 0%, so his opponent gets little to no counterattack opportunity.
The only explanation I can find for why he is low on the tiers is that no one has used him seriously. I think he really keeps up, if not tops, the top tier characters.
I really do not like to simply shoot my mouth, and I am not one who thinks it right to shower a character in encomium, and never actually prove anything. Is there online for this somewhere, or is that simply wishful thinking? If not, please do not yell at me and stuff until you at least check out The Punch. Goes right through projectiles, goes right through attacks, goes right through faces. Please just give Ganondorf another shot and tell me what you thnk.
Final Comment: People have a tendency to think that posts from newcomers to a board but veterans of its respective game are saying they are better than everyone else, regardles of what the post actually says. Please note that I did not say 'I am better than you' or 'Ganon is better than Fox.' I said, essentially: 'Ganon seems to be great. These are his strengths. He may top Fox. Check him out and see if you agree.' I will say, however, that I am a full master of Ganondorf.
Please give Ganondorf a second look before responding so you know where I am coming
from!
#HBC | Dancer
The nicest of the damned.
hehe... sorry, I just couldn't resist.
Also I feel that just reading it is funnier than the video.
Also I feel that just reading it is funnier than the video.
BBQ°
Smash Champion
Lying about what?
dashdancedan
Smash Journeyman
Caleb Wolfbrand
Smash Master
Twice now I've looked at this thread while browsing the forum and I keep thinking the title has been changed to
"I have decided joining the blah blah" instead of declined...
only in the fantasy world where Xif agrees with BBQ lol
"I have decided joining the blah blah" instead of declined...
only in the fantasy world where Xif agrees with BBQ lol
h1roshi
Smash Hero
XIF
Smash Master
Because i'm still not considered a true GA smasher!
aw snap.
This happens with alot of my threads (read: YLYL)
Nihongo-ookami
Smash Journeyman
I only joined the group because I main Ganon.
I agree. Ganon is SEVERELY underrated. The only things that keep him from advancing, from what I've seen:
LASERS.
FALCON.
LINK.
PROJECTILES.
He's not the best, but he is severely under-used.
I agree. Ganon is SEVERELY underrated. The only things that keep him from advancing, from what I've seen:
LASERS.
FALCON.
LINK.
PROJECTILES.
He's not the best, but he is severely under-used.
MarsFool!
Smash Lord
FOX HAS A BLUE OCTAGON.
So Does Falco.
Sheik- Ganon match is 7-3 for good reason.
Captain Falcon has the best taunt.
FOX has a blue octagon.
XIF
Smash Master
Actually it's a blue hexagon. Less Edges, less frames.
If you're having problems against Link with Ganondorf in melee it's time to start reevaluating your strategy.